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Would it matter, seriously? Maybe David Moran would run faster in Killarney!
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/12/2019 10:35:24 2255296 Link 11 |
Jayzis in the 80s you would have won an AI with just those 3 wins coming out of Munster.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/12/2019 10:39:08 2255297 Link 11 |
That's generally because you only get one all time great team in a decade. It has been Dublin in the 10s. I think you'll agree that the Mayo and Donegal teams of this decade have been the best Mayo and Donegal teams of all time. Check the Kerry line out for the 2011 final and tell us that this wasn't an excellent Kerry side. Arguably the best Monaghan team has been playing in this decade. The teams have been very high quality. It's just that one has been supreme. Some people can't accept that.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/12/2019 10:45:23 2255300 Link 10 |
The 00s were a great decade and the 90s better again. Because Kerry were regularly winning. lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 17/12/2019 10:51:09 2255304 Link 2 |
In addition, I would say what marks this Dublin side apart from all others and this will be bore out in the record books is the margins they have won their titles by and the consistency they have demonstrated over many years. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 17/12/2019 11:18:18 2255312 Link 3 |
Kerry were really poor for most of the 90's, the reason it was such a good time to follow football was because a different team won every year. Donegal, Derry, Down, Dublin, Meath, Galway, Cork and Kerry all won titles. Kildare, Mayo and a few others got very close
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 17/12/2019 12:16:15 2255322 Link 10 |
You're right there Gerry. Several very good sides but no one great side.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/12/2019 12:41:50 2255327 Link 7 |
Mayo, Donegal, Monaghan, Tyrone all "troughed" in the 10s? Be gone with you charlatan.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/12/2019 12:45:21 2255329 Link 8 |
You're right there Gerry. Several very good sides but no one great side."]You wouldn't be biased now Joxer! lol You wouldn't be seeing Dublin as the one and only true apostolic church when it comes to gaelic football, considering the amount of culchie surnames on that beloved Dublin team of yours, beyond the Pale names, driven east by inequality and Tory type governance! Have a happy Christmas, I'm out of here for now, enjoy the celebrations! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 17/12/2019 13:14:22 2255337 Link 2 |
The kerry 2011 side had. . . Brendan Kealy in goals where Diarmuid Murphy had been a colossus for them in the 00s Marc o'se at full back because they'd lost Tommy Griffin and hadn't a natural replacement Killian Young at corner back having played all his career at wing back Eoin Brosnan moved from the forwards to the half back line where in the 00s they has Seamus Moynihan Bryan Sheehan, a corner forward, playing in midfield, replacing the retired Darragh O'Shea. Kieran O'Leary at corner forward because Tommy Walsh was in Oz. It was a better side than the 2014 and 2015 Kerry side but it was a long way short of the 00s side who made 6 finals in a row and won 4 of them. You could say the exact same of Tyrone in this decade vs 00s. Yes, this decade has seen Monaghan's greatest ever team, but that team won 2 ulster titles and lost to average Tyrone sides in 1/4 and semi finals. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 17/12/2019 13:27:30 2255338 Link 2 |
Tyrone certainly have. Monaghan aren't one of Dublin's rivals. Donegal were exceptional under Jim McGuinness but he left a big gap when he moved on. I don't know to sum up the Mayo team of the 10s. They lost 3 finals to Dublin, but they also lost connaught championship games to Galway and Roscommon, and were taken to extra time by Derry and Cork. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 17/12/2019 13:31:50 2255339 Link 1 |
I don't think it's the teams themselves that are vilified, it's the arrogance of some of their supporters, their demand for genuflection and glorification that annoys the defeated - unsporting behaviour.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 17/12/2019 13:33:22 2255340 Link 1 |
You're right there Gerry. Several very good sides but no one great side."]Down, Meath and Galway were great teams and the pick of the bunch imo but nobody could sustain success because there were so many good sides around and it was knockout football. The kind of utter domination we are seeing now is very unusual, and much of the core of Dublin's team is still in their mid twenties, we are in uncharted waters. If Dublin do not drop off a bit soon it'll be interesting to see how the GAA handle it. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 17/12/2019 13:39:57 2255341 Link 10 |
We won 1 allireland in the 90s and 4/5 in the 00s that's hardly regular.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/12/2019 14:27:04 2255352 Link 2 |
In the 00s there was 2 great teams and 8 great teams in the 90s.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/12/2019 14:29:35 2255353 Link 3 |
You are literally describing Kerry supporters.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 17/12/2019 15:12:35 2255358 Link 5 |
You're right there Gerry. Several very good sides but no one great side."]Down, Meath and Galway were great teams and the pick of the bunch imo but nobody could sustain success because there were so many good sides around and it was knockout football. The kind of utter domination we are seeing now is very unusual, and much of the core of Dublin's team is still in their mid twenties, we are in uncharted waters. If Dublin do not drop off a bit soon it'll be interesting to see how the GAA handle it."]Handle it? Kerry missed out on 5 by a kick of a ball Then went onto win another 3 in a row... Dubs still have plenty to accomplish This sort of domination has been seen and Dublin have a bit to go to mirror what Kerry did You may have just narrowly lost out on 5 but again win 3 on the bounce after it jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 17/12/2019 15:26:39 2255360 Link 5 |
Back to topic, Dublin's next manager, I think Dessie's success or otherwise will hinge on how he introduces a few new players into the team and still keeps the team at or near the top. Players like Bugler, Archer, McGarry(forwards), Darren Gavin and O'Cofaigh-Byrne, mid-field, Murchan to nail down a half-back slot, Comerford has the makings of a top-class keeper, and maybe more game-time for the likes of Cormac Costello (still only 25), Luke Swan, only 17, too early for him this year but is some prospect, football or hurling. If Dessie can bring in the new blood and stay competitive, happy days for the Dubs, if he can gradually remould the team and win Sam 2020, the outlook is bleak for everyone else. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 17/12/2019 15:53:47 2255365 Link 4 |
Ciaran Archer as well of course. I'm really looking forward to next year. It's going to be interesting to see how Dessie manages the transition. POCB and Gavin both have huge potential. Lowndes will have a chance to nail down a wing back spot also I believe. Comerford should see more action. A lot of experimentation no doubt.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/12/2019 16:39:41 2255379 Link 5 |
That's all the league should be about Hopefully see the makings of 2-3 new players and give plenty of opportunity to anyone that deserves the chance For me that's all Dessie will be looking at for 2020 He won't be making looking to reinvent the wheel.. no need for that yet Exciting times and IMO Gavins last master stroke as manager is deciding to walk away. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 17/12/2019 17:09:41 2255385 Link 4 |