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Another Own Goal By The GAA

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Why aren't Joe McDonagh Cup players being recognised at the All Stars this evening? There were four Champion 15 teams each for the McDonagh, Ring, Rackard and Meagher Cup competitions one time. This year they have rolled them into one Champion 15 and forgot about Joe McDonagh Cup players?? Paddy Purcell was named Joe McDonagh Player of the Year but what about the other Laois lads and Westmeath's Killian Doyle who scored 3-61 during in the championship? What a joke.

Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 01/11/2019 11:31:22    2246960

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Teams outside the top tier don't count. There are excellent players, outside the teams competing the provincial championships, like those you mentioned. Enda Rowland of Laois has been a consistently good goalkeeper with Laois, as good as any inter county Number 1.
It will be the same in football, once the ill starred Tier 2 championship starts.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 01/11/2019 11:48:25    2246964

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Teams outside the top tier don't count. There are excellent players, outside the teams competing the provincial championships, like those you mentioned. Enda Rowland of Laois has been a consistently good goalkeeper with Laois, as good as any inter county Number 1.
It will be the same in football, once the ill starred Tier 2 championship starts.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 01/11/2019 11:48:48    2246965

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The truth is the GAA only care about the Sam Maguire and Liam MacCarthy championships and everything after that is just a nuisance to them. The selectors probably picked the Champion 15 team on the back of a match box with zero knowledge of players so included the ones that went to the final photoshoots or the captains .

GalwayMan (Galway) - Posts: 91 - 01/11/2019 12:04:49    2246971

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Because they couldn't give a rats you know what about counties outside the top tier, you would want to be unbelievably naive at this stage to not see what's going on.

The gaa is for the top counties and are rapidly trying to make sure everyone else is just out of the way.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1349 - 01/11/2019 12:20:19    2246974

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The all stars awards have for a number of years been picked from teams in the last 4/8 of the All Ireland championship to the exclusion of all other teams regardless of how good an individual has been throughout the year. Even provisional winners aren't considered any more when all star awards are being handed out . All stars were viewed as individual award in the past but sadly, this is no longer the case.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1913 - 01/11/2019 12:31:00    2246976

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Replying To GalwayMan:  "The truth is the GAA only care about the Sam Maguire and Liam MacCarthy championships and everything after that is just a nuisance to them. The selectors probably picked the Champion 15 team on the back of a match box with zero knowledge of players so included the ones that went to the final photoshoots or the captains ."
You could be right because all the captains were picked!

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 01/11/2019 13:18:58    2246983

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And on the other hand why are all the players picked for shinty from the crappy counties

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 01/11/2019 14:01:28    2246994

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Replying To lilypad:  "And on the other hand why are all the players picked for shinty from the crappy counties"
Crappy counties is a bit disrespectful but I think there normally does be one or two players from the likes of Tipperary and Kilkenny . Lee Chin played last year and John McGrath before .

GalwayMan (Galway) - Posts: 91 - 01/11/2019 14:14:03    2246997

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Replying To lilypad:  "And on the other hand why are all the players picked for shinty from the crappy counties"
Crappy counties is very disrespectful. It gives counties who aren't the strongest in hurling or at least players recognition they otherwise wouldnt and by and large with these players games are quite competitive which might be case with all players from the Liam McCarthy counties.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3511 - 01/11/2019 14:26:13    2247001

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Replying To Concerned_Supp:  "Why aren't Joe McDonagh Cup players being recognised at the All Stars this evening? There were four Champion 15 teams each for the McDonagh, Ring, Rackard and Meagher Cup competitions one time. This year they have rolled them into one Champion 15 and forgot about Joe McDonagh Cup players?? Paddy Purcell was named Joe McDonagh Player of the Year but what about the other Laois lads and Westmeath's Killian Doyle who scored 3-61 during in the championship? What a joke."
Enda Rowland got nominated for a Liam Mccarthy All-Star. Anyone who plays in the Joe Mcdonagh can win an All-Star. Its amazing that it's disrespectful in football to have teams in a 2nd tier, but when players in the Joe Mcdonagh are included I the top tier of All-stars they too are being disrespected. Think it sums up the problem GAA administrators have quite well.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 01/11/2019 16:01:41    2247014

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Replying To tearintom:  "Because they couldn't give a rats you know what about counties outside the top tier, you would want to be unbelievably naive at this stage to not see what's going on.

The gaa is for the top counties and are rapidly trying to make sure everyone else is just out of the way."
Let's be honest a lot of the times the counties outside the top tier don't give a rat's about their own hurling teams . Ditto for football teams in hurling counties

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 01/11/2019 17:28:51    2247030

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Disgraceful but no great surprise. Tier 2 football will go the same road. Too many sheep in the GAA now, no reasoning or questioning voices anymore at any level & especially in the GAA media who are afraid to ask the hard questions, instead they censor & cover up.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 01/11/2019 18:22:13    2247041

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Replying To tearintom:  "Because they couldn't give a rats you know what about counties outside the top tier, you would want to be unbelievably naive at this stage to not see what's going on.

The gaa is for the top counties and are rapidly trying to make sure everyone else is just out of the way."
When we talk about the gaa in this context we have to name it as those operating from within crime park. .they are destroying our game, and are fully prepared to drive it into the ground and all for the sake of money and their own egos.

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 01/11/2019 20:20:20    2247084

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Embarassing and disgraceful decision by GAA.

David (Meath) - Posts: 567 - 01/11/2019 22:16:35    2247134

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Replying To lilypad:  "And on the other hand why are all the players picked for shinty from the crappy counties"
Less of the crappy, not a nice comment

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 03/11/2019 15:34:08    2247404

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Own goals and the GAA unfortunately are all too common. What will happen when the B Championship for football comes in? Should there be a separate night for the non first tier competitions altogether rather than cramming them all into one night?

TheTownEnd123 (Sligo) - Posts: 3 - 26/11/2019 09:52:36    2251485

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Replying To Soma:  "Enda Rowland got nominated for a Liam Mccarthy All-Star. Anyone who plays in the Joe Mcdonagh can win an All-Star. Its amazing that it's disrespectful in football to have teams in a 2nd tier, but when players in the Joe Mcdonagh are included I the top tier of All-stars they too are being disrespected. Think it sums up the problem GAA administrators have quite well."
Eoin Murphy is a great keeper and an All Star but in my opinion Enda Rowland is the number 1 goal tender in the land. All involved in the selection should be ashamed of themselves for not having the liathrodi to pick the number one and taken the easy popular decision. It also shows the lip service applied to the lower team players. However this is nothing new. There is another thread on here about the players who missed out on All-Star. I grew up watching Pat McGrath who was one of the best players of his era but because the selection committee wanted to give the requisite number of stars to the top teams he could not get his place at left half back. This is true for many other players from the so called weaker counties.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 26/11/2019 22:48:24    2251696

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Money, money, money.... that's all they care about. The lesser counties are never going to get the respect that they deserve in the GAA. An inter-county footballer from Meath puts in just as much time and effort as one from Galway. But do you think the GAA are willing to recognise this. Not a hope. And yes, of course I'm slightly baiting with the reference to Meath and Galway ;-)

However, the reality is that the GAA's number one priority and focus in 95% of what they do these days is money. They are still pretending to be for the community / parish and for not-for-profit sport, but only a fool or a farmer from Leitrim would buy that rubbish. They are a self-promoting money orientated organisation which is amateur in name only.

And this isn't new. I remember in the 1980's seeing players who worked for the Bank or Ireland getting All Stars even though they were average players. Tis all about the money folks....

Hoofhearted (Australia) - Posts: 49 - 27/11/2019 01:13:16    2251708

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Replying To Concerned_Supp:  "Why aren't Joe McDonagh Cup players being recognised at the All Stars this evening? There were four Champion 15 teams each for the McDonagh, Ring, Rackard and Meagher Cup competitions one time. This year they have rolled them into one Champion 15 and forgot about Joe McDonagh Cup players?? Paddy Purcell was named Joe McDonagh Player of the Year but what about the other Laois lads and Westmeath's Killian Doyle who scored 3-61 during in the championship? What a joke."
Killian Doyle on the All Stars touring party that flew out to Abu Dhabi today. The GAA's way of saying sorry for their total disregard for these competitions by selecting players from so called weaker counties for the All Stars trip.

Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 27/11/2019 16:54:10    2251828

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