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Tier 2 Clarity And Questions

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So the GAA have rushed through the Tier 2 Championship and points of which are still unclear ad not publicised,so hope doesnt be like other things previously and run in a decide as we go along fashion. There certainlu needs to be a change to give more teams more to play for but like most things il admit no easy solution,plus how much coverage on tv would London v Waterford get.

Few points on the new championship structure.

- If division 3/4 teams make provincial final then they are entered to tier 1 (All Ireland championship), therefore i assume that all qualifiers cant be played until provinical finals are set,so for example Cavan play Monaghan in ulster preliminary match,likely early may,losers of this game will have to wait until late June for next game then???

-If division 3/4 teams make provincial final then they are entered to tier 1 (All Ireland championship) and have not won promotion in the league,does that mean team that finished 6th in Division 2 of the league are demoted months after securing status to balance it at 16 in each section?? Hardly fair and with Munster this year could easily happen, if Cork beat Kerry could be 2 Division 3 teams potentially

- Tier 2 competition games are going to be set up regionally,north v south,so this means teams could likely meet three times between pre season comp,league then again in championship. Open draw was the initial excitement of the backdoor,so why limit this for tier 2. If people interested in attending game they will travel regardless

- Tier 2 winners are given a place in Tier 1 the following year. If they havent been promoted in the national league the following year,whose place do they take, a division 2 team or is there a play-off game with a tier 1 team??

This needs to be clear before any competition starts.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 895 - 29/10/2019 22:09:04    2246544

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Replying To macca999:  "So the GAA have rushed through the Tier 2 Championship and points of which are still unclear ad not publicised,so hope doesnt be like other things previously and run in a decide as we go along fashion. There certainlu needs to be a change to give more teams more to play for but like most things il admit no easy solution,plus how much coverage on tv would London v Waterford get.

Few points on the new championship structure.

- If division 3/4 teams make provincial final then they are entered to tier 1 (All Ireland championship), therefore i assume that all qualifiers cant be played until provinical finals are set,so for example Cavan play Monaghan in ulster preliminary match,likely early may,losers of this game will have to wait until late June for next game then???

-If division 3/4 teams make provincial final then they are entered to tier 1 (All Ireland championship) and have not won promotion in the league,does that mean team that finished 6th in Division 2 of the league are demoted months after securing status to balance it at 16 in each section?? Hardly fair and with Munster this year could easily happen, if Cork beat Kerry could be 2 Division 3 teams potentially

- Tier 2 competition games are going to be set up regionally,north v south,so this means teams could likely meet three times between pre season comp,league then again in championship. Open draw was the initial excitement of the backdoor,so why limit this for tier 2. If people interested in attending game they will travel regardless

- Tier 2 winners are given a place in Tier 1 the following year. If they havent been promoted in the national league the following year,whose place do they take, a division 2 team or is there a play-off game with a tier 1 team??

This needs to be clear before any competition starts."
You make some good points there, but I think the easiest thing the GAA could have done would be to have 8 groups of 4 using the 4 league divisions for seeding,
each team plays eachother home and away , the top 2 teams in the group go into super 8s with the top team getting home advantage in the first super 8 game .

The bottom 2 teams go into the paidi O'Sé cup super 8s with the 3rd placed team getting home advantage in first game that way it keeps everyone honest and playing hard.

Everyone gets to start out to play for Sam and each county is gaurenteed to get 9 games in the summer, teams will only get better by playing more games imo.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10770 - 30/10/2019 10:04:52    2246587

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Replying To macca999:  "So the GAA have rushed through the Tier 2 Championship and points of which are still unclear ad not publicised,so hope doesnt be like other things previously and run in a decide as we go along fashion. There certainlu needs to be a change to give more teams more to play for but like most things il admit no easy solution,plus how much coverage on tv would London v Waterford get.

Few points on the new championship structure.

- If division 3/4 teams make provincial final then they are entered to tier 1 (All Ireland championship), therefore i assume that all qualifiers cant be played until provinical finals are set,so for example Cavan play Monaghan in ulster preliminary match,likely early may,losers of this game will have to wait until late June for next game then???

-If division 3/4 teams make provincial final then they are entered to tier 1 (All Ireland championship) and have not won promotion in the league,does that mean team that finished 6th in Division 2 of the league are demoted months after securing status to balance it at 16 in each section?? Hardly fair and with Munster this year could easily happen, if Cork beat Kerry could be 2 Division 3 teams potentially

- Tier 2 competition games are going to be set up regionally,north v south,so this means teams could likely meet three times between pre season comp,league then again in championship. Open draw was the initial excitement of the backdoor,so why limit this for tier 2. If people interested in attending game they will travel regardless

- Tier 2 winners are given a place in Tier 1 the following year. If they havent been promoted in the national league the following year,whose place do they take, a division 2 team or is there a play-off game with a tier 1 team??

This needs to be clear before any competition starts."
All division 1 and 2 teams get to play in the tier 1.

If others qualify then there will be more than 16 in tier 1.

The waiting around for games could be what is brought in.

Hopefully not though, there is an opportunity to play the leagues in parallel with the Provincial championships which may actually work better.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2950 - 30/10/2019 16:42:13    2246642

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