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please God a Kerry win-1 million Percent , as a Meath man I detest Dublin ! begrudgingly respect them but I hope Kerry win because we will never hear the end of it of they get 5 in a row
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Dublin, the attitude of the players, management and style of play is the best we are likely ever to see. 5 years on the road and it hasn't been one bit rocky, exceptional team, exceptional hunger every year. Let's just hope it's close and entertaining, good luck to both teams on Sunday!!
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Replying To Hoofhearted: "Kerry.
For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me.
Come on the Kingdom !" Are you a cliché bot? You sound as if you haven't objectively watched a game in decades. Nonsense on stilts.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 29/08/2019 09:57:19
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Replying To essmac: " Replying To Hoofhearted: "Kerry.
For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me.
Come on the Kingdom !" Are you a cliché bot? You sound as if you haven't objectively watched a game in decades. Nonsense on stilts."
Meath lost to Kerry in the All Ireland semi final in 1986 the year before they won their first all Ireland under Boylan. The players all said they learnt a great lesson that day. Playing nice football isn't enough. The Kerry lads were softening them up every chance they got, late shoulders charges just as they'd kick the ball etc. They were naive and thought the Kerry lads were just good skilful footballers. They said it was a big lesson for them and they understood then what it would take to win.
HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 29/08/2019 10:31:34
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Replying To avonali: "IT is indeed. I think there are a couple of factors at play.
1. Most neutrals would love to see a a radical shift in the status quo. If Kerry think that the rest of the country are craving a Kerry win on the basis that change is good they are mistaken. Kerry have won 37 times and another Kerry win would just be like a routine changing of the guard. It would be like swapping seats on the Titanic. If Dublin were playing Mayo, Cork, Galway or say Down, then I think most posters would support them rather than the Dubs.
2. I really believe there was a time when Kerry were the aristocrats of football in the sense that could win matches based on skill and athleticism alone. They were tough but not 'dirty'. I think there is a perception that those in influence in Kerry football believed that in order to match the toughness of Tyrone or Donegal that they had to change this perception of themselves as a clean team. Hence the frequency with which recent Kerry teams have got themselves embroiled in brawls and the 'dark arts' in an effort to 'put it up' to other teams. I think it's unthinkable that in the 80s or 90s a Kerry player would fishhook an opponent. This may have altered our perception of them to the point where the tag 'aristocrat' no longer seems appropriate. I mean no offence when I write that it's just that is how I see the evolution of Kerry teams over the the past decade.
3. I don't think HS is representative of the feelings of the country at large. This is a place where debate can get lively and people get defensive of their own counties. Unfortunately some of us go overboard and some of the posts by Kerry posters in particular seemed quite bitter and their claims unjustifiable. As far as I know Cluxton, Jack Mcaffrey, Brian Fenton et al. went to their jobs this morning. They are not professional footballers. Fact. I think it's regrettable also that some Kerry posters believe that a Dublin win spells the end of GAA football. Would they have been saying that in 1982 had the won the five in a row. They went on to win the next three All-Irelands from 83 on. That would have been 9 in a row. Would that have been good for football? The notion that the GAA wants Dublin to keep winning for financial reasons is utter nonsense. Continued Dublin success will affect the gate receipts. If money was the bottom line surely they'd go all out to stop the Dubs
4. The Kerry attempt to raise concerns over the appointment of David Gough left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths.
Kerry fans may feel they have a case but to other fans it seemed like a cynical ploy to influence Gough in advance of the final.
Sin a bhfuil.." Good God but that is some piece of writing!!!!! To think a supporter of a team that choke-holds players, and systematically drags down all their opponents on kick-outs is preaching against the dark arts of Kerry. A fishhook from 10 years ago and not a word of Philly or Johnny Cooper :D
Anyway, look this place is La La land. Never in all my years going to GAA games have I meet any hatred of Kerry except from the odd Mayo fan.
But this forum seems to be overrun with Kerry bashers and its due to a number of factors IMO:
Probably more Dubs on here than any other county and they hate being reminded by us of the unfair ways so much of their success has been achieved by. Someone called it 'bitter tripe', my friend all we are doing is telling you the truth that is out there in black and white if you choose to open your eyes to it. Money plus Home advantages = greater chance of winning, its not rocket science!!
You've got Dub posters masquerading as being from other counties for whatever joy or entertainment that gives them.
You've got your typical a$re kissers and people who just like to attract themselves to success who'll laud whoever is winning and at the minute its Dublin.
You've got the substantial we hate Kerry brigade on here embittered by years of defeat at the hands of Kerry teams.
Finally you've got the whole Stockholm syndrome - it's very easy for many people, particularly those in the rest of Leinster, to convince themselves Dublin are the greatest sports team of all time to cover up their own counties failures. It's a comforting thought to go 'sure look even if we were doing everything we could, this side is so brilliant it wouldn't make any difference' etc etc.
So threads like this come as no surprise.
For the good of the GAA and everything it was meant to stand for, Kerry need to win on Sunday. But my fear is, even if we do, the GAA will simply point to the result, say they'res no problem here and continue to pile money and advantages at Dublin's door.
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 29/08/2019 10:46:38
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Replying To 37sowhat: "If I were a Mayoman so would I You have been beaten so often by both permanent trauma is understandable Cheer up next year could be Mayo's year as Johnny Logan's song goes What's another year or 68 more for that matter" Only slagging. I hope it's a good game and in doubt until the final whistle but I put a 6 point win for Dublin in my Facetheball prediction. I won't lose sleep either way but now they've done the hard work this great Dublin team should make history. If they never let us hear about it they'll have earned that right.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 29/08/2019 10:49:20
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Replying To baire: "The joy of losing, a bestseller in Mayo!" I'm gonna write House of Pain 2. Jump around!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 29/08/2019 10:52:12
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Replying To TheHermit: "Good God but that is some piece of writing!!!!! To think a supporter of a team that choke-holds players, and systematically drags down all their opponents on kick-outs is preaching against the dark arts of Kerry. A fishhook from 10 years ago and not a word of Philly or Johnny Cooper :D
Anyway, look this place is La La land. Never in all my years going to GAA games have I meet any hatred of Kerry except from the odd Mayo fan.
But this forum seems to be overrun with Kerry bashers and its due to a number of factors IMO:
Probably more Dubs on here than any other county and they hate being reminded by us of the unfair ways so much of their success has been achieved by. Someone called it 'bitter tripe', my friend all we are doing is telling you the truth that is out there in black and white if you choose to open your eyes to it. Money plus Home advantages = greater chance of winning, its not rocket science!!
You've got Dub posters masquerading as being from other counties for whatever joy or entertainment that gives them.
You've got your typical a$re kissers and people who just like to attract themselves to success who'll laud whoever is winning and at the minute its Dublin.
You've got the substantial we hate Kerry brigade on here embittered by years of defeat at the hands of Kerry teams.
Finally you've got the whole Stockholm syndrome - it's very easy for many people, particularly those in the rest of Leinster, to convince themselves Dublin are the greatest sports team of all time to cover up their own counties failures. It's a comforting thought to go 'sure look even if we were doing everything we could, this side is so brilliant it wouldn't make any difference' etc etc.
So threads like this come as no surprise.
For the good of the GAA and everything it was meant to stand for, Kerry need to win on Sunday. But my fear is, even if we do, the GAA will simply point to the result, say they'res no problem here and continue to pile money and advantages at Dublin's door." Good God but that is some piece of writing!!!!! Pot Kettle Black -:)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 29/08/2019 10:59:51
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Should say the above post is not aimed at people just preferring Dublin to win in a head to head clash against Kerry out of personal preference, rather those around here using every opportunity to just have ANOTHER b£itching session about Kerry and use any excuse to take a kick at us as a county!!
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 29/08/2019 11:03:07
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Replying To Hoofhearted: "Kerry.
For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me.
Come on the Kingdom !" Jesus the amount insecure Kerry posters cropping up is pathetic.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 29/08/2019 11:12:28
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it would be a very exciting championship if Dublin were not in it
overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 29/08/2019 11:38:11
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Mayo:-)
logger (Wexford) - Posts: 296 - 29/08/2019 12:10:13
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I'm shouting for Dublin. Would love to see them win 5 in a row. I love watching them play.
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 29/08/2019 12:22:06
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Dublin. Great team that plays excellent football.
football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 29/08/2019 12:27:06
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Replying To Hoofhearted: "Kerry.
For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me.
Come on the Kingdom !" The way Kerry played in the 2014 Final was far from proper football,their tackling was bordering on assault.They are very good at propaganda about how clean they play their football and I think that's what puts a lot of people against them.Obviously Kerry have produced many great teams and great footballers over the years but please don't spout this stuff about proper football.The reality is that they will employ whatever tactics they think necessary for results.
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Replying To lilylanger: " Replying To Hoofhearted: "Kerry.
For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me.
Come on the Kingdom !" Jesus the amount insecure Kerry posters cropping up is pathetic."
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 29/08/2019 12:42:16
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Replying To oneoff: " Replying To lilylanger: "[quote=Hoofhearted: "Kerry.
For the good of football and because Kerry have always played proper football, even when the Ulster teams introduced this blanket defence, pulling and dragging and generally negative football, Kerry still kick passed the ball, played attacking football and are always a pleasure to watch. Dublin's main strength is their athleticism and obvious advantages in S&C, they are not as naturally gifted as the likes of Kerry or Mayo. The Kingdom are a team developed on the playing field, not in the gym. And I still remember how dirty and cynical the Dubs were in the 70's and 80's so it has to be Kerry for me.
Come on the Kingdom !" Jesus the amount insecure Kerry posters cropping up is pathetic."
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 29/08/2019 13:16:27
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For me this is a classic case of wanting a few draws before the cup is won. I have nothing against Kerry but I like the Dubs and wish both teams the best.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 29/08/2019 13:16:35
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Kerry.
For the sake of a competitive amateur future of the game
Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 29/08/2019 13:23:25
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