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Great Double for Tipp Hurling. Their future looks bright.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 505 - 24/08/2019 19:49:53    2229033

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Great Double for Tipp Hurling. Their future looks bright."
Thanks a lot, it's been a great week for us. They played great stuff tonight.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 24/08/2019 21:36:25    2229047

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Is Mark Kehoe overage.? I thought him very impressive when he came on for Tipp seniors against Wexford and Kilkenny.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1167 - 24/08/2019 21:50:04    2229049

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Replying To endgame:  "Is Mark Kehoe overage.? I thought him very impressive when he came on for Tipp seniors against Wexford and Kilkenny."
Overage by a few months
Tipp will be hopeful the aftermath of this u20/senior double is better than the last

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 421 - 24/08/2019 21:54:11    2229054

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Well done Tipp

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1039 - 24/08/2019 21:54:17    2229055

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Replying To endgame:  "Is Mark Kehoe overage.? I thought him very impressive when he came on for Tipp seniors against Wexford and Kilkenny."
Yes, Kehoe would have been eligible for Under 21 if they hadn't changed the age limit. Ger Browne, Cian Darcy and Killian O'Dwyer of the extended senior panel were in the same boat. They all won minor All-Ireland medals in 2016 so this should have been their optimum year for under 21. But they haven't done too badly, have they?

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 119 - 24/08/2019 22:01:35    2229057

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Firstly,thanks trump 2020,fair play,yes it's been a great week for tipperary, I came out of the Gaelic grounds after the Munster final thinking we will be down for a few years,hurling can be funny,
In relation to mark kehoe,yes he's over age,just hope our county board,management,and players have learned from 2010,

Tipptipp (Tipperary) - Posts: 62 - 24/08/2019 22:03:52    2229058

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overage. by a few months

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 421 - 24/08/2019 22:22:10    2229062

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Congrats to Tipp u20's, absolutely awesome tonight. That first 15 minutes was frightening stuff......

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 804 - 24/08/2019 23:24:09    2229074

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Congrats Tipp. Brilliant hurling. 2 fine U20 teams.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 25/08/2019 01:52:23    2229092

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You would have to admire tipps style of hurling
the touch and skill set they have is unreal

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1085 - 25/08/2019 10:05:45    2229102

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That was a fancied Cork team and Tipp blew them away in the first 10 minutes. Glad we lost to Cork in the SF, really couldn't take two thrashings from Tipp in one week.

Tipp seem to be producing players with the freedom to go out and hurl and express themselves, and not worry about making mistakes and getting hauled off. I can't remember the last time I was excited about a Kilkenny minor or under-20 team, we seem to be producing big awkward lads who are slow and can't hurl, but because they're 6'3" and "strong under a high ball" they're put on these "development squads" the whole way through. Would the 15-year old Tommy Walsh get on one of these Kilkenny development squads now, I'm not sure.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1084 - 25/08/2019 23:00:55    2229262

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Replying To ballydalane:  "That was a fancied Cork team and Tipp blew them away in the first 10 minutes. Glad we lost to Cork in the SF, really couldn't take two thrashings from Tipp in one week.

Tipp seem to be producing players with the freedom to go out and hurl and express themselves, and not worry about making mistakes and getting hauled off. I can't remember the last time I was excited about a Kilkenny minor or under-20 team, we seem to be producing big awkward lads who are slow and can't hurl, but because they're 6'3" and "strong under a high ball" they're put on these "development squads" the whole way through. Would the 15-year old Tommy Walsh get on one of these Kilkenny development squads now, I'm not sure."
The Tipp u20s were like Kilkenny a few years ago with Breenan, Power etc.....a couple of their goals they had a chance for the tap over point 30/40 yes from goal but they drove for the jugular......similar opportunities at other end and Cork were flicking over the bar with no hard running off the shoulder to create the goal chance.....that's good coaching as much as its talent and hard work

I was amazed at how poor the technical skills of the KK minors were BDL in the minor final....didn't look like 'classic KK' hurlers at all....there was a myth allowed flourish for a while that KK teams were all muscle and no hurling, which was exactly that as all the great KK teams had fantastic stickmen for every Christy heffernan there was a Billy Fitzpatrick, for every john power there was a Charlie Carter etc but the balance seems to have been lost a bit

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 724 - 26/08/2019 10:55:48    2229342

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "The Tipp u20s were like Kilkenny a few years ago with Breenan, Power etc.....a couple of their goals they had a chance for the tap over point 30/40 yes from goal but they drove for the jugular......similar opportunities at other end and Cork were flicking over the bar with no hard running off the shoulder to create the goal chance.....that's good coaching as much as its talent and hard work

I was amazed at how poor the technical skills of the KK minors were BDL in the minor final....didn't look like 'classic KK' hurlers at all....there was a myth allowed flourish for a while that KK teams were all muscle and no hurling, which was exactly that as all the great KK teams had fantastic stickmen for every Christy heffernan there was a Billy Fitzpatrick, for every john power there was a Charlie Carter etc but the balance seems to have been lost a bit"
I think the myth you're talking about is because of the physicality of the KK teams of the 80s whereas other teams like Galway and Cork seemed to be more finesse than physical.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 505 - 26/08/2019 16:21:07    2229471

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Superb tipp team.

kerryforsam19 (Kerry) - Posts: 95 - 26/08/2019 23:57:17    2229617

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There used to be a saying in the 1960s
when tipp were known for their robust style of hurling
And the tipp backline were christened hells kitchen
it went Tipp for the men and kilkenny for the hurlers
now today the hurlers are deff in tipp and kilkenny play a more physical style

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1085 - 27/08/2019 21:38:30    2229948

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Replying To rhudson:  "There used to be a saying in the 1960s
when tipp were known for their robust style of hurling
And the tipp backline were christened hells kitchen
it went Tipp for the men and kilkenny for the hurlers
now today the hurlers are deff in tipp and kilkenny play a more physical style"
That's absolutely true.Tipp dominated Kilkenny for nearly 50 years(early 20s to late 60s) and the view was that Tipp were too strong and too physical fur Kilkenny's wristy stylish hurlers.Now Tipp have the silky forwards with lovely movement and people are saying that Kilkenny(this year's minors included) are one dimensional and not skilful enough.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1167 - 27/08/2019 21:49:40    2229952

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I think the myth you're talking about is because of the physicality of the KK teams of the 80s whereas other teams like Galway and Cork seemed to be more finesse than physical."
To be fair Trump the Galway team if the 80s was pretty physical themselves ......the 1987 final in particular wasn't a day for shrinking violets......Hayes, Finnerty, Coleman, Malone, Keady, Lynskey, Linnane all were more than able to look after themselves as could Cooley for all his class .......I get your general point but there were plenty of hard men in that Galway side ......

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 724 - 27/08/2019 22:10:45    2229957

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https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/denis-ring-club-action-left-cork-players-leggy-946182.html

This is really poor from Denis Ring. Blaming the performance on club matches which were played a full week before the final. Not 24 hours, not 48 hours, not even 72 can hours, no a WEEK. And only 8 players at that, the rest played club games a full fortnight before.

No wonder the club game is struggling so much when it's being blamed by inter county managers for their own shortcomings.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1084 - 27/08/2019 23:02:28    2229973

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Replying To ballydalane:  "https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/denis-ring-club-action-left-cork-players-leggy-946182.html

This is really poor from Denis Ring. Blaming the performance on club matches which were played a full week before the final. Not 24 hours, not 48 hours, not even 72 can hours, no a WEEK. And only 8 players at that, the rest played club games a full fortnight before.

No wonder the club game is struggling so much when it's being blamed by inter county managers for their own shortcomings."
Nobody in Cork will be buying that, this guy is a bluffer of the highest order.....some of the most talented underage teams Cork have had have passed through his hands and yet he has won [email protected] all

To blame club games is pathetic when the biggest issue was the way he had lined out and prepared the team.....like Tipp got four goals in 8 mins yet not one Cork player went down to try kill the play/break momentum , that is basic stuff that even club teams would do ( compare Cork naviety to Tipp the moment Cork goaled) .......Ring was schooled by Liam Cahill simple as that and whole of Ireland witnessed what most people in Cork already knew, that he isn't up to it and only got these gigs due to Frank ( he was Franks last appointment) ......

Cork were dead right to play their club games, it had no impact on the performance

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 724 - 28/08/2019 09:09:35    2230011

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