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Replying To ballydalane:  "I don't think Donnelly's shot crossed the line. I didn't think Chin's (was it him?) shot crossed the line either in the SF. I suspect the Hawkeye system "kicks in" when it traces the flight path of an incoming ball before it has crossed the line, and awards the score based on the "expected" flight path. I suspect the Hawkeye system awarded points to Chin and Donnelly based on the expected flight paths, rather than the actual flight path. They really need to test it out. What if a flock of seagulls fly through the posts in the football final and the ref has to award a point for it?"
I have a suspicion that this is the issue. Hawkeye's main purpose is to indicate the flight of the ball in relation to the posts. It uses cameras that measure a few metres either side of the posts and up past the posts for the higher shots.
However, I'm not sure if it measures whether a ball crossed the plane, as well as if it's accurate measuring towards the middle of the goal.
We all know the graphic in these 2 instances is nonsense, as it's just showing the flight of the sliotar if it hadn't been stopped. However, the sliotar was stopped and in both cases looks like it wasn't fully behind the crossbar.
The GAA need to clarify the workings of the Hawkeye in relation to these incidents. Any confusion and lack of clarity will only lead to mistrust.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 551 - 20/08/2019 09:32:55    2227775

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "I have a suspicion that this is the issue. Hawkeye's main purpose is to indicate the flight of the ball in relation to the posts. It uses cameras that measure a few metres either side of the posts and up past the posts for the higher shots.
However, I'm not sure if it measures whether a ball crossed the plane, as well as if it's accurate measuring towards the middle of the goal.
We all know the graphic in these 2 instances is nonsense, as it's just showing the flight of the sliotar if it hadn't been stopped. However, the sliotar was stopped and in both cases looks like it wasn't fully behind the crossbar.
The GAA need to clarify the workings of the Hawkeye in relation to these incidents. Any confusion and lack of clarity will only lead to mistrust."
Your last sentence is spot on. Why the f**k the GAA hierarchy can't come out and just tell the general public how things work is beyond me. It would take one of their high paid officials a couple of minutes to write up the capabilities of Hawkeye. Release it to the press and put it up on their website. Hard to fathom why so much of what is done is cloak and daggers.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 427 - 20/08/2019 11:13:40    2227821

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Your last sentence is spot on. Why the f**k the GAA hierarchy can't come out and just tell the general public how things work is beyond me. It would take one of their high paid officials a couple of minutes to write up the capabilities of Hawkeye. Release it to the press and put it up on their website. Hard to fathom why so much of what is done is cloak and daggers."
Was arleady done at the beginning, but GAA people are the biggest bunch of moaners you come across, so something has to be complained about.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1475 - 20/08/2019 13:04:29    2227861

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Of course every time hawkeye is called into action an advert for a big international company is beamed onto our screens. The more it is used the better for them.

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 953 - 20/08/2019 13:08:01    2227865

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Also wonder is there a secret VAR to James Owens, he is mic'd up to the Hawkeye official, could it have been why Richie Hogan was sent off?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 551 - 20/08/2019 13:45:13    2227885

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As a reply to Witnof, an explanation of Hawkeye was never fully given, or how it actually works. Also, Hawkeye when it was launched, is different to what we have now (both in its capabilities, which is good; but also in what is demanded of it). Surely a few simple questions could be answered in relation to how many cameras are used, where are the cameras located, what is the margin of error, how much of the ball has to be seen for it to be accurate, how is interception accounted for.......as an audience we question most decisions in matches, from linesmen, refs, umpires, time-keepers etc, surely it is justifiable to ask questions in relation to Hawkeye, particularly if there is talk of extending technology and goal-line technology...and as a Louthman I would have to be welcoming goal-line technology!

Setanta11 (Louth) - Posts: 10 - 20/08/2019 15:29:39    2227917

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Replying To witnof:  "Was arleady done at the beginning, but GAA people are the biggest bunch of moaners you come across, so something has to be complained about."
Maybe it was. I don't remember. In 20 years time will we say to some kid just out of nappies who doesn't understand its capabilities "ah sure look it was explained at the beginning tough luck if you were only a dream in your mothers head at the time". Or maybe they could put it on the official GAA website for the world to see. Although that could be a scary prospect for the GAA.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 427 - 20/08/2019 16:00:22    2227932

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