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Replying To centerfield: "That one was unforgettable and unforgivable.
the one refereeing "performance" that still sticks in my craw" I'm not surprised , It was dreadful. Poor out Mick the Bull thought so too...
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 08/08/2019 21:24:19
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Replying To avonali: "Man of many talents is AOM....dancing, diving, etc." And who was the ref he tricked....
Very short memories these fella's and some bloody neck! Haha
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 08/08/2019 22:07:41
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Who knows how Saturday night will go. Our 9th championship game in 2019 after playing in two continents, spending three currencies. Sure we'll give it a go anyways!" That's the spirit GreenandRed, with you all the way.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 08/08/2019 22:50:26
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Replying To jimbodub: "And who was the ref he tricked....
Very short memories these fella's and some bloody neck! Haha" Well if it wasn't good old "Dublin" Joe himself....mind you he did send of Dara O'Se.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 08/08/2019 23:08:38
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Replying To clondalkindub: "Haven't seen anyone say it but all the best to Jason Doherty on his recovery from his knee injury huge loss for Mayo was playing great football and one of the main reasons Mayo are in the semi." Well said ClondalkinDub he was having a fantastic year. It has been a horrendous 18 months with injuries for Mayo. Hopefully Jason can bounce right back. Hoping to see Tom Parsons at some stage on the field on Saturday evening.
cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 09/08/2019 00:02:24
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Replying To realdub: "The gas thing is, for Mayo and Tyrone it's about winning an all-Ireland, for Kerry, its about us not winning it." Is it? There is not much left of the Kerry team left from 2015/16 that last faced Dublin in the championship. Most of the other weren't born when that Kerry team of the 70s and 80's were around. If they do end up taking the field v Dublin id say protecting the legacy of that team from yesteryear will be an afterthought. Its a very new team under new management.
The media will try to build it up but I really cannot imagine it will be a factor for the players. Most have them have no medals and they will want to win their first Celtic Cross, same as mayo and Tyrone. That's the only motivation needed
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 09/08/2019 01:35:06
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At the end of the day,it's just a football match and if your team loses well that's life ,a lot of people have worse things on their minds than worrying about a gaa match ,so enjoy it and whatever the result wish the other team well and get on with life ,happy knowing that you have your health
hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 09/08/2019 09:15:43
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Replying To hipster: "At the end of the day,it's just a football match and if your team loses well that's life ,a lot of people have worse things on their minds than worrying about a gaa match ,so enjoy it and whatever the result wish the other team well and get on with life ,happy knowing that you have your health" Spot on
mayomanic (Mayo) - Posts: 85 - 09/08/2019 10:04:27
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Well now has all the making of a hurricane up here both in atmosphere and the climate.
With my Dublin spectacles on im getting increasingly more confident as the week has gone on, i might well e in for the land but there you go.
Looking at it, i have a feeling our front 8 might tip it our way. I also expect a power play from Jim. James McCarthy and Fenton in midfield will give us serious power, athleticism and skill in midfield, Howard will flood from half forward and take his man for a walk in there, im not to worried about the O Shea in there, we are good at by passing them and not sure they have the legs to be matching Jamsey, Fenton or Howard. John Small is nailed on for the start and suspect we might even see him play hang man at six, like 2017. I think wemight even see Jonny at five, working threat flank in supporting Howard. Cian i wouldn't be surprised to see in at 3, with Fitzy and Davey in the corners. I think Jim will set up to weather the physical battle for the first 20 mins before we can show our quality.
Scully will drag and link up, Howard will be everywhere. Mannion and Denao will do there thing. The real subplot will be Keegan, Kilkenny and Con. Keegan will man mark one of these, i have a suspicion Kilkenny will start up front and Con out at 11, for those who havnt watched Dublin much this year, these two flip positions. I have a sense that Kilkenny who isnt having a great year by his standards might just nullify Keegan and create gaps for Con. Depending how the game pans out we air drop in Connolly at a point, like in the 2017 final, cant mark Con, Kilkenny and Con all at the same time, but that will be for latter in the day.
We will be looking at the keeper, both Clarke and Hennelly with individual skills acknowledged can be cracked from their kick out. We will be aiming for that.
Anyway if we go in at halftime any less then five point down ill be happy. First 20 mins, will be blood and thunder and holding the line, until Mayo punch themselves out, the game will swing in momentum then and you are down to conversion rates before the benches are run.
My one concern is being caught cold, we started last year against Galway very sluggishly and made big errors we thankfully were able to claw back. We should be focusing this week on eliminating that. This is our first real test this year, so after a shaky league we have looked as good as we can be in patches, we need to let the throttle of tomorrow and hopefully if we go reaching the extra gears will be there.
We have no right to expect to win this game or an All Ireland, we have to earn it and the real work starts tomorrow.
Should be a great game, day out and i really cant wait.
Safe journey to all traveling west, take it easy the weather is to be cat.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 09/08/2019 10:12:20
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Replying To TheUsername: "Well now has all the making of a hurricane up here both in atmosphere and the climate.
With my Dublin spectacles on im getting increasingly more confident as the week has gone on, i might well e in for the land but there you go.
Looking at it, i have a feeling our front 8 might tip it our way. I also expect a power play from Jim. James McCarthy and Fenton in midfield will give us serious power, athleticism and skill in midfield, Howard will flood from half forward and take his man for a walk in there, im not to worried about the O Shea in there, we are good at by passing them and not sure they have the legs to be matching Jamsey, Fenton or Howard. John Small is nailed on for the start and suspect we might even see him play hang man at six, like 2017. I think wemight even see Jonny at five, working threat flank in supporting Howard. Cian i wouldn't be surprised to see in at 3, with Fitzy and Davey in the corners. I think Jim will set up to weather the physical battle for the first 20 mins before we can show our quality.
Scully will drag and link up, Howard will be everywhere. Mannion and Denao will do there thing. The real subplot will be Keegan, Kilkenny and Con. Keegan will man mark one of these, i have a suspicion Kilkenny will start up front and Con out at 11, for those who havnt watched Dublin much this year, these two flip positions. I have a sense that Kilkenny who isnt having a great year by his standards might just nullify Keegan and create gaps for Con. Depending how the game pans out we air drop in Connolly at a point, like in the 2017 final, cant mark Con, Kilkenny and Con all at the same time, but that will be for latter in the day.
We will be looking at the keeper, both Clarke and Hennelly with individual skills acknowledged can be cracked from their kick out. We will be aiming for that.
Anyway if we go in at halftime any less then five point down ill be happy. First 20 mins, will be blood and thunder and holding the line, until Mayo punch themselves out, the game will swing in momentum then and you are down to conversion rates before the benches are run.
My one concern is being caught cold, we started last year against Galway very sluggishly and made big errors we thankfully were able to claw back. We should be focusing this week on eliminating that. This is our first real test this year, so after a shaky league we have looked as good as we can be in patches, we need to let the throttle of tomorrow and hopefully if we go reaching the extra gears will be there.
We have no right to expect to win this game or an All Ireland, we have to earn it and the real work starts tomorrow.
Should be a great game, day out and i really cant wait.
Safe journey to all traveling west, take it easy the weather is to be cat." A lot of that is fair, and Dublin would have every right to feel they are fresher and pull away in the second half.
One thing I have to point out though. Kilkenny to nullify Keegan? Are you trying to claim that if Kilkenny does nothing like in 2017 he has somehow taken Keegan out of the game? By not touching the ball and creating gaps? Being a bit kind there to Kilkenny!
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Replying To GeniusGerry: "Is it? There is not much left of the Kerry team left from 2015/16 that last faced Dublin in the championship. Most of the other weren't born when that Kerry team of the 70s and 80's were around. If they do end up taking the field v Dublin id say protecting the legacy of that team from yesteryear will be an afterthought. Its a very new team under new management.
The media will try to build it up but I really cannot imagine it will be a factor for the players. Most have them have no medals and they will want to win their first Celtic Cross, same as mayo and Tyrone. That's the only motivation needed" Talking about Kerry as a whole Gerry, fans and all.
lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 09/08/2019 11:01:16
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Replying To hipster: "At the end of the day,it's just a football match and if your team loses well that's life ,a lot of people have worse things on their minds than worrying about a gaa match ,so enjoy it and whatever the result wish the other team well and get on with life ,happy knowing that you have your health" Well said. So many here don't know the ethos of our great sport. Win with dignity and lose with dignity.
GreenAndGold74 (Kerry) - Posts: 194 - 09/08/2019 11:05:17
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Replying To GreenAndGold74: "Well said. So many here don't know the ethos of our great sport. Win with dignity and lose with dignity." Definitely, the poor young lad from Meath brings that all home , god love his family RIP.
It's only a game win or lose will all be back here next year please god having the same Craic. This thing never ends.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 09/08/2019 11:16:09
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Sorry to have to say this but I just don't think we're going to have another epic encounter . People think the same epic encounters that we had in 2016/2017 will be repeated but it doesn't work like that. The opening 20 minutes will be frenetic with the two teams neck and neck. But I expect Dublin to gradually pull away and finish the game easing up.
On the other hand Dublin respond badly to the pressure and malfunction.
I just don't think this is going to be the classic that everyone assumes it will be.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 09/08/2019 11:38:00
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Replying To TheFlaker: "A lot of that is fair, and Dublin would have every right to feel they are fresher and pull away in the second half.
One thing I have to point out though. Kilkenny to nullify Keegan? Are you trying to claim that if Kilkenny does nothing like in 2017 he has somehow taken Keegan out of the game? By not touching the ball and creating gaps? Being a bit kind there to Kilkenny!" I personally feel Kilkenny was a bit late cottoning on to the man marking job 17, but got into space creating mode more grew into it in the second half, Connolly and the space that was given was the catylist for the win overall in my opinion. If you man mark one you cant man mark the other and so it proved. I would say we were a bit of chaos in the first half in 18. the O Gara tactic didnt work and we lost Jack early, systemically we were in a bit mess, luckily yee didnt pull away to much. Rochford definitely won the tactical battle first half, us the second.
Since then though Con is a completely different player and bigger influence then 17. Keegan had an outstanding game on Kilkenny first half but waned in its effectiveness as the game went on, he offensively contributed well as well as we know. Id say overall the tactic just about broke even, it worked in your favor for a bit then in ours. We won so i dont really mind who has the small win around it.
I do however feel, the tactic wont be as effective again, it was worked on hugely throughout 2018, how to respond as a team to man marking - throughout the league and championship. Keegan will man mark someone but whether its Dermo, Kilkenny or Con they will be prepared for it and will have a team plan around it and where we want to have Keegan ideally - easier said then done admittedly. I dont think Keegan has been in at his terrific best this season, but im going to touch wood after saying that.
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Replying To TheUsername: "I personally feel Kilkenny was a bit late cottoning on to the man marking job 17, but got into space creating mode more grew into it in the second half, Connolly and the space that was given was the catylist for the win overall in my opinion. If you man mark one you cant man mark the other and so it proved. I would say we were a bit of chaos in the first half in 18. the O Gara tactic didnt work and we lost Jack early, systemically we were in a bit mess, luckily yee didnt pull away to much. Rochford definitely won the tactical battle first half, us the second.
Since then though Con is a completely different player and bigger influence then 17. Keegan had an outstanding game on Kilkenny first half but waned in its effectiveness as the game went on, he offensively contributed well as well as we know. Id say overall the tactic just about broke even, it worked in your favor for a bit then in ours. We won so i dont really mind who has the small win around it.
I do however feel, the tactic wont be as effective again, it was worked on hugely throughout 2018, how to respond as a team to man marking - throughout the league and championship. Keegan will man mark someone but whether its Dermo, Kilkenny or Con they will be prepared for it and will have a team plan around it and where we want to have Keegan ideally - easier said then done admittedly. I dont think Keegan has been in at his terrific best this season, but im going to touch wood after saying that." Keegan has not been at his best, has had injury problems. But seriously to go back to 17, Kilkenny did nothing and Keegan destroyed him to be fair, and popped up with a goal which was late on, so not sure how his effectiveness waned.
It's a big ask for Keegan to keep doing this to be honest.
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Replying To avonali: "Its going to be absolutely p*ssing down rain for tomorrow's match." The forecast is as changeable as the weather.....
Accuweather saying there'll be thunderstorms for the minor match and cloudy between 5 and 7.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 09/08/2019 12:44:29
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Replying To avonali: "Its going to be absolutely p*ssing down rain for tomorrow's match." Beware Mayo in the hammering rain!!
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 09/08/2019 12:46:25
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If the conditions are bad it will give Mayo a better chance. They were very very good in the ugly conditions last week. Fresh in their minds too.
I think we are in for a great game despite all Mayo's injuries. They will turn up to win regardless, and rightly so.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/08/2019 12:57:01
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