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Is This The Golden Age Of Hurling?

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Ah come on. I am half Cork, reared in a townland literally on the Cork/Limerick bounds and seemed to spent half my youth on either of that border. The slagging coming up to matches between Ruby Red and the Emerald Green is always something wicked, but at the back of it all there is huge respect between the hurling people of both counties. To say that I'M a staunch Limerick supporter and will always back them against Cork is put it very mildly. I worked and lived in Cork for over thirty years and often found Cork Flags hanging off my front gate mornings after rebels lowered my own beloved green. However I was always a big ugly boy and was able to give it back. Walking out of Pairc Ui Caoimh after Barry Foley split the posts from the right hand side of the field and won the game at the death in 2001, I came face to face with a Cork work colleague- 'Oh Christ' he said ' Right now You, of all people, is the last person I want to meet' Needless to say it made what was already a good day an even better one. After our football team beat Cork at home by ten points two years later I was also a difficult hoor to have around the place. But it was all taken in good parts and I never saw any Cork supporter get genuinely nasty either in victory- which was often- or in defeat and in fact Cork friends went out of their way to convey their best wishes before the finals of '80, '94, '06 and '07 and went out of their way to get tickets for me whenever I wanted them. After our victories we were freely congratulated by our Cork neighbours and work colleagues.
Overall I think you cannot judge any county on the actions of a few. My own county had a strike as well and I never see or hear people from other counties going on about it. And you know when they won the All Ireland nobody commented on the strike or its possible cause or effect on that happy outcome either.
Ballydallane you will get arrogant and indeed downright bad sports people from every county, mine and yours included. BTW How many of that Cork team have you ever had a coffee or a drink or indeed any dealings whatsoever with."
I've never met any of the Cork team of that era, I can only judge them by their words and actions. They dragged a lot of people's names and reputations through the mud, including legends in their own county.

My assessment of Cork fans might be unfairly influenced by online hurling forums from that time where Cork posters were downright nasty, I believe influenced by what was coming out of the Cork camp at the time.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1085 - 17/08/2019 21:41:41    2226855

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Replying To Breezy:  "Had the very same experience with Cork fans last year nothing but good to say about them and any boasting over the years I always took as funny banter rather than arrogance and find that the Cork support for all things Cork be it GAA or soccer or local shops and produce admirable.

As for the team of the 00s they took things too far and were arrogant and quite open to cheating which made them hard to like but like You slayer I believe We did benefit hugely from Allen. He brought a confidence and modern professionalism which brought us on big time abd was the building blocks for 2018"
Well whatever this cheating thing is about they never visited some of the 'sportsmanship' KK bestowed on us in the 2007 Final and Jackie Tyrell then had the cheek to say we brought war to Croke Park in 2014. I saw nothing going on in 2014 even remotely comparable to what went on seven years earlier.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 2368 - 17/08/2019 21:52:26    2226858

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well whatever this cheating thing is about they never visited some of the 'sportsmanship' KK bestowed on us in the 2007 Final and Jackie Tyrell then had the cheek to say we brought war to Croke Park in 2014. I saw nothing going on in 2014 even remotely comparable to what went on seven years earlier."
Ah boo hoo Oldtourman, were the big bad Kilkenny boys too wuff for Limerick in 07?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1085 - 17/08/2019 22:55:23    2226873

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well whatever this cheating thing is about they never visited some of the 'sportsmanship' KK bestowed on us in the 2007 Final and Jackie Tyrell then had the cheek to say we brought war to Croke Park in 2014. I saw nothing going on in 2014 even remotely comparable to what went on seven years earlier."
The most cynical 'tackle' in modern hurling history was committed by a Limerick man in that 2014 game, shortly avoiding a red card for a pull from behind on the head of a Kilkenny player. By the way when your own team stops diving to get players sent off and engaging in the contacts lense trick etc. you can talk about sportsmanship

Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 147 - 17/08/2019 23:28:55    2226879

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Replying To ballydalane:  "BORDERED on arrogance? Ah stop, the most arrogant shower that ever played the game. There were very few players from that team who were likeable - Joe Deane, maybe the Newtownshandrum contingent, struggling after that."
Yea but you calling them an arrogant shower is no different to Cusacks contempt for you guys? Granted every man is entitled to his opinion and that's all right too. But to say only one of their players was likeable is a bit harsh if your basing that from a few interviews or stuff you read in the paper. That said I always thought that particular cork team did create a siege mentality, and did seem like it was them against the world but if its what they had to do to achieve success so be it. Is it much different from the mentality davy fitz creates everywhere he goes?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 808 - 18/08/2019 07:33:07    2226905

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well whatever this cheating thing is about they never visited some of the 'sportsmanship' KK bestowed on us in the 2007 Final and Jackie Tyrell then had the cheek to say we brought war to Croke Park in 2014. I saw nothing going on in 2014 even remotely comparable to what went on seven years earlier."
Seriously. Let it go..

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 624 - 18/08/2019 09:43:11    2226919

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Ah it is not just a Cork think. And I am a Limerick man who was reared in the a townland right next to County Cork and lived and worked in Cork for over three decades so I have heard enough from Cork hurling people over the years. However did you ever hear what Churchill said about Montgomery. 'In defeat he was unbeaten, in victory he was unbearable' There are Montgomerys in every county."
That attitude probably is what drove him to being a successful general. And the same might be said of Cork and their "corkness"

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 859 - 18/08/2019 13:35:12    2226981

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Replying To skillet:  "Seriously. Let it go.."
For sure. The team that plays in a purely sporting manner wins nothing in any sport.......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 859 - 18/08/2019 13:42:05    2226983

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Replying To skillet:  "Seriously. Let it go.."
Oh what's this ... a little tiff in the Limerick ranks!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 818 - 18/08/2019 13:47:10    2226986

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An hour away from the final and this is what we're talking about? The usual trolls too I see.

Very excited for the game. Heart says KK, head says Tipp.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 2802 - 18/08/2019 14:42:24    2226995

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Replying To festinog:  "An hour away from the final and this is what we're talking about? The usual trolls too I see.

Very excited for the game. Heart says KK, head says Tipp."
It really is laughable.
Kk should shade this on.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1164 - 18/08/2019 15:02:09    2227005

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Congratulations to Tipp. Even though 2 of the "Big 3" were in the Final they were far from favorites at the start of the Hurling year. Fair play to both teams. Hurling has a bright future.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 523 - 18/08/2019 17:09:02    2227082

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Congratulations to Tipp. Even though 2 of the "Big 3" were in the Final they were far from favorites at the start of the Hurling year. Fair play to both teams. Hurling has a bright future."
It's not often you see a team in danger of being considered out of the top three when they've featured in the AI final, but serious questions raised about KK after that game today; even without the sending off which only served to put the final result beyond doubt at half time.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 2802 - 18/08/2019 18:31:36    2227155

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Replying To festinog:  "An hour away from the final and this is what we're talking about? The usual trolls too I see.

Very excited for the game. Heart says KK, head says Tipp."
Your head was right! Ha ha ha.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 523 - 18/08/2019 18:58:14    2227167

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Replying To festinog:  "It's not often you see a team in danger of being considered out of the top three when they've featured in the AI final, but serious questions raised about KK after that game today; even without the sending off which only served to put the final result beyond doubt at half time."
True I suppose but as Tipp has shown us a one year turnaround is quite possible.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 523 - 18/08/2019 19:19:14    2227172

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Gutted for my Leinster compatriots but Tipp were miles better

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1330 - 18/08/2019 19:58:07    2227199

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Today was no golden age, it can be said up to semi's but a woegous game today.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4237 - 18/08/2019 22:30:15    2227305

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Kilkenny beat Carlow by 14 points
Dublin beat Carlow by 12 points
Wexford beat Carlow by 15 points
Tipp beat Waterford by 18 points
Limerick beat Waterford by 20 points
Tipp beat Clare by 13 points
Cork beat Waterford by 13 points
Limerick beat Clare by 18 points
Limerick beat Tipp by 12 points
Cork beat Westmeath by 23 points
Tipp beat Laois by 10 points
And today Tipp beat Kilkenny by 14 points

It ain't the super duper competitive competition it's made out to be even tiered.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1420 - 19/08/2019 09:32:57    2227359

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Kilkenny beat Carlow by 14 points
Dublin beat Carlow by 12 points
Wexford beat Carlow by 15 points
Tipp beat Waterford by 18 points
Limerick beat Waterford by 20 points
Tipp beat Clare by 13 points
Cork beat Waterford by 13 points
Limerick beat Clare by 18 points
Limerick beat Tipp by 12 points
Cork beat Westmeath by 23 points
Tipp beat Laois by 10 points
And today Tipp beat Kilkenny by 14 points

It ain't the super duper competitive competition it's made out to be even tiered."
Looks like you cherry picked results while ignoring other results.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 523 - 19/08/2019 15:46:03    2227555

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Kilkenny beat Carlow by 14 points
Dublin beat Carlow by 12 points
Wexford beat Carlow by 15 points
Tipp beat Waterford by 18 points
Limerick beat Waterford by 20 points
Tipp beat Clare by 13 points
Cork beat Waterford by 13 points
Limerick beat Clare by 18 points
Limerick beat Tipp by 12 points
Cork beat Westmeath by 23 points
Tipp beat Laois by 10 points
And today Tipp beat Kilkenny by 14 points

It ain't the super duper competitive competition it's made out to be even tiered."
Who'd you fancy in the football (............for the next 20 years)?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1085 - 19/08/2019 15:52:59    2227563

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