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Replying To kevin03:  "I wouldn't bet on that. They will officially go down as the greatest but questions regarding funding will always remain.

Not sure why people are talking about 5 in a row anyway. With limited competition, constant home games and more funding than most teams put together there is no reason why they cant do 7 or more in a row."
Tyrone had no problem coming down to Dublin in say 2005 when Mugsy scored that wonder goal. It wasn't an issue when Tyrone and Kerry regularly kicked our asses. Not any more though.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 26/07/2019 13:25:52    2216757

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Hard to know whats going to happen in this game.

I would predict that Tyrone will go out to keep it respectible while resting key men for the next game or at best, substituting them or bringing them on at a stage rather than playing 70 mins.

Dublin likewise could do this.

Is it a dead rubber?

On the balance of the group it is.

Would like to see a good game here, but it is hard to see either team going for it the way kerry and donegal went at it last week.

We will see.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 26/07/2019 13:32:27    2216759

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The ABD brigade are sick to their stomachs at the thought of the Dubs seizing the golden crown of the GOAT. Hence their hysterical mudslinging with anything that comes to mind in order to remove the sheer horror of their waking nightmare. US.

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 26/07/2019 13:37:38    2216765

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Replying To kevin03:  "I wouldn't bet on that. They will officially go down as the greatest but questions regarding funding will always remain.

Not sure why people are talking about 5 in a row anyway. With limited competition, constant home games and more funding than most teams put together there is no reason why they cant do 7 or more in a row."
Don't think so bud. It's never been harder to win a AI. The Kerry 4 in a row team won one in 1980 playing just 3 games, qualifying to the AI series with one game, a final, in a hurling province. Dublin played 8 games last year in an era where athleticism and skill levels have never been greater and an era where systems and strategy is at an all time high. Money? What influence did this money have on developing this current squad of Dublin players many of whom were 15/16 in 2004. Wishful thinking on your part I'm afraid. This team, regardless of whether they win the 5 on the bounce, will rightly go down as the best to ever play the game up to that point in time.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/07/2019 22:07:25    2216941

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Replying To steve097:  "The ABD brigade are sick to their stomachs at the thought of the Dubs seizing the golden crown of the GOAT. Hence their hysterical mudslinging with anything that comes to mind in order to remove the sheer horror of their waking nightmare. US."
Regardless of the winner of this years final,this Dublin team already have the honour Of being the greatest team to ever play the game. The lads that take to the field can't be responsible for any behind the scenes activities but as far as the 15 plus lads on the squad are concerned they have already proved that they are the best to ever play the game by their accomplishments on the field.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 26/07/2019 23:40:36    2216966

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It's the flaw with the super 8s. Both teams will make many changes as it doesn't really matter who they play in the semis as the 3 teams in the other group are all pretty even, with mayo slightly back. There's defo nothing between Kerry and Donegal!

Tizcold (Galway) - Posts: 239 - 27/07/2019 02:17:02    2216989

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Complete dead rubber, another GAA masterpiece.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 27/07/2019 04:58:10    2216996

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Replying To Joxer:  "Don't think so bud. It's never been harder to win a AI. The Kerry 4 in a row team won one in 1980 playing just 3 games, qualifying to the AI series with one game, a final, in a hurling province. Dublin played 8 games last year in an era where athleticism and skill levels have never been greater and an era where systems and strategy is at an all time high. Money? What influence did this money have on developing this current squad of Dublin players many of whom were 15/16 in 2004. Wishful thinking on your part I'm afraid. This team, regardless of whether they win the 5 on the bounce, will rightly go down as the best to ever play the game up to that point in time."
There are at least 19/20 players on yer panel that have benefited from that money since 2004 joxer. Kilkenny Costello mccaffery o'callaghan fenton Davy Byrne murchan lowndes just to name a few.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/07/2019 08:58:48    2217007

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Replying To steve097:  "The ABD brigade are sick to their stomachs at the thought of the Dubs seizing the golden crown of the GOAT. Hence their hysterical mudslinging with anything that comes to mind in order to remove the sheer horror of their waking nightmare. US."
Its gas craic altogether.

Mostly the Kerry lads as well, for obvious reasons. Mad to think that this day only 8 short years ago we hadn't won an All Ireland in 16 years and the Kerry lads absolutely ''loved us'' haha

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 27/07/2019 11:04:36    2217030

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Regardless of the winner of this years final,this Dublin team already have the honour Of being the greatest team to ever play the game. The lads that take to the field can't be responsible for any behind the scenes activities but as far as the 15 plus lads on the squad are concerned they have already proved that they are the best to ever play the game by their accomplishments on the field."
The team of the noughties applauding the GOAT team. Twould make a snowman melt!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 27/07/2019 11:27:04    2217035

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "There are at least 19/20 players on yer panel that have benefited from that money since 2004 joxer. Kilkenny Costello mccaffery o'callaghan fenton Davy Byrne murchan lowndes just to name a few."
What has happened to Brendan O'Sullivan seems to have dropped off the face of the earth???

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 27/07/2019 11:33:51    2217039

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Replying To avonali:  "I hope for your sake Mickey Harte doesn't share that defeatist mentality."
I bet there isn't a single Tyrone fan who genuinely believes Tyrone can beat Dublin in a serious game. In the 00s, I tended to believe we always had a good chance. Since 2015, I don't see that we've any chance. I honestly feel the guys on every other Co team are wasting their time. I'm not even slightly interested in the next game v Dublin. Either were beat, or we scrape a win because Dublin aren't trying. Nothing to see here.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 27/07/2019 12:29:31    2217053

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My guess is that two second strings will play. Keep your powder dry for the real war is good tactics. It still might be a good game.

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 27/07/2019 12:43:56    2217058

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Replying To essmac:  "I bet there isn't a single Tyrone fan who genuinely believes Tyrone can beat Dublin in a serious game. In the 00s, I tended to believe we always had a good chance. Since 2015, I don't see that we've any chance. I honestly feel the guys on every other Co team are wasting their time. I'm not even slightly interested in the next game v Dublin. Either were beat, or we scrape a win because Dublin aren't trying. Nothing to see here."
Let's see. Have the other counties gone backward or are Dublin getting better? Are this Tyrone team as good as the noughties team??

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 27/07/2019 13:14:34    2217069

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "There are at least 19/20 players on yer panel that have benefited from that money since 2004 joxer. Kilkenny Costello mccaffery o'callaghan fenton Davy Byrne murchan lowndes just to name a few."
Yeah it would be great if we could play 19/20 players but players on our starting 15 now who were 15/16 in 2004...
Cluxton
Philly
Cooper
Fitzy
Cian
McCarthy
MDM
Rock

Others in the panel and likely to play...

Kevin Mc
ROC
Paddy Andrews

Others in the panel but less likely to feature...

Bernard
Diarmuid
EOG
Darren Daly

So that would be 15 of the panel off the top of my head. What would the level of funding 15 years ago have done for this backbone of the greatest team of all time. This is the same team that was getting hammered by Kerry a year and two before their breakthrough in 2011. Did a magical influx of funding in 2011 suddenly transform them in 12 months into the GOAT? That's how silly the money argument sounds in relation to this golden generation of Dublin senior footballers.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 27/07/2019 22:36:59    2217318

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Replying To lilylanger:  "The team of the noughties applauding the GOAT team. Twould make a snowman melt!"
It's a simple and honest appraisal in fairness.If your good then let it be acknowledged and these Dublin lads are good. Not only are they good in my view but they are the greatest team to ever play the game. And if you meet or talk to them they are a sound bunch of lads too. At least the few I met have been.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 28/07/2019 07:35:08    2217410

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Replying To Joxer:  "Yeah it would be great if we could play 19/20 players but players on our starting 15 now who were 15/16 in 2004...
Cluxton
Philly
Cooper
Fitzy
Cian
McCarthy
MDM
Rock

Others in the panel and likely to play...

Kevin Mc
ROC
Paddy Andrews

Others in the panel but less likely to feature...

Bernard
Diarmuid
EOG
Darren Daly

So that would be 15 of the panel off the top of my head. What would the level of funding 15 years ago have done for this backbone of the greatest team of all time. This is the same team that was getting hammered by Kerry a year and two before their breakthrough in 2011. Did a magical influx of funding in 2011 suddenly transform them in 12 months into the GOAT? That's how silly the money argument sounds in relation to this golden generation of Dublin senior footballers."
IGNORE!!!!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/07/2019 14:59:40    2218244

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I'm hoping to see a fair few changes.
Plenty of players working very hard inside the panel that I would like to see start.
It's not an important game in terms of winning Sam. Game time to panel, protect a number of players as in no injuries or suspensions.

Dublin will have a game against a green and gold county. It doesn't matter which one, both teams being of a very similar standard.

A full healthy deck is all that matters. Be nice to pick up another win in Omagh off the back of last years game but in this of all years it's not important.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/07/2019 16:38:57    2218320

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I'm hoping to see a fair few changes.
Plenty of players working very hard inside the panel that I would like to see start.
It's not an important game in terms of winning Sam. Game time to panel, protect a number of players as in no injuries or suspensions.

Dublin will have a game against a green and gold county. It doesn't matter which one, both teams being of a very similar standard.

A full healthy deck is all that matters. Be nice to pick up another win in Omagh off the back of last years game but in this of all years it's not important."
If it was my call I'd swap in...

ROC for Cooper
Lowndes for Jack
Gavin for Fento
Paddy Small for Howard
Berno for Mannion

I expect a tough physical game and we need to avoid injuries but I can't see Tyrone going full strength either. Will Donnelly, Harte or Cavanagh start? The next game is more important but I still think our preference would be to remain unbeaten and to top the group. Should be another great day up in Omagh.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 29/07/2019 16:56:21    2218334

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Replying To Joxer:  "Yeah it would be great if we could play 19/20 players but players on our starting 15 now who were 15/16 in 2004...
Cluxton
Philly
Cooper
Fitzy
Cian
McCarthy
MDM
Rock

Others in the panel and likely to play...

Kevin Mc
ROC
Paddy Andrews

Others in the panel but less likely to feature...

Bernard
Diarmuid
EOG
Darren Daly

So that would be 15 of the panel off the top of my head. What would the level of funding 15 years ago have done for this backbone of the greatest team of all time. This is the same team that was getting hammered by Kerry a year and two before their breakthrough in 2011. Did a magical influx of funding in 2011 suddenly transform them in 12 months into the GOAT? That's how silly the money argument sounds in relation to this golden generation of Dublin senior footballers."
The average age doesnt drop year on year if it's a golden generation.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 217 - 29/07/2019 17:06:05    2218340

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