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Tyrone Vs Dublin

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember a certain few Dubs questioning Tyrone 05 and 08 all Ireland's due to the fact they were beat once. (Jim I think, apologies if I'm incorrect).

If the Dubs get beat does that mean their all Ireland is diluted? Unbeaten championship run broke."
Focus. All that matters is the Five. All else is dross.

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 25/07/2019 10:07:54    2216153

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Gavin won't rest too many for this one I predict. He may start two or max three from the bench but that'll be the height of it and I'm sure the Dublin lads including Paddy Andrews will want some retribution (on the scoreboard) for what happened earlier in the year. Dublin by 5 for me.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 25/07/2019 10:23:06    2216157

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "You're not doing too badly up there, getting money from us free staters and a few pounds fron Aunt Lizzy as well!"
What money do we get from you free starters?

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 25/07/2019 11:28:44    2216194

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Tyrone could get a hiding here

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 25/07/2019 22:13:03    2216556

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Its both interesting and tricky for the managers.

Its funny. The narrative fits whatever way people want.

When Donegal were really poor v Meath for 55 minutes the talk was we were undercooked with no game for 3 weeks. Yet Kerry were 'fresh' versus a tired Mayo.

So if Gavin rests 8 or 9 and they've no battle of that intensity v mayo or donegal a week its risky.

I really dont think Gavin will want a defeat a week out from a semis.

If gavin plays a good hand Dublin could hammer a weakened Tyrone. I dont think that's good for Tyrone irrespective of who's playing.

Gavin would hardly go full throttle would he?

IamDonegal (Donegal) - Posts: 134 - 25/07/2019 23:02:47    2216572

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember a certain few Dubs questioning Tyrone 05 and 08 all Ireland's due to the fact they were beat once. (Jim I think, apologies if I'm incorrect).

If the Dubs get beat does that mean their all Ireland is diluted? Unbeaten championship run broke."
Ha good point. I'd certainly not question those Tyrone AIs. They were hard fought for but you're probably mistaking a back door opportunity for a dead rubber S8s game where the Dubs are already in the semi before the game is played. The comparison is probably a bit apples and oranges.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/07/2019 00:09:55    2216597

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Replying To Wally:  "What money do we get from you free starters?"
Sure aren't we buying all that delicious Strathroy bainne of ye. I hope Jim rests 6 or 7 lads and we have a narrow defeat because I'd like to play Kerry in the semi-final with the team pissed off after losing. Looking forward to the trip, Omagh always buzzing on match days.

CaogaCuig (Dublin) - Posts: 63 - 26/07/2019 01:10:45    2216605

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Tyrone to win. Debts to be paid.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 26/07/2019 06:19:08    2216612

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  "Gavin won't rest too many for this one I predict. He may start two or max three from the bench but that'll be the height of it and I'm sure the Dublin lads including Paddy Andrews will want some retribution (on the scoreboard) for what happened earlier in the year. Dublin by 5 for me."
This is the most likely way Gavin will manage the rotation situation in my view also. Resting players in a wholesale manner could come back to bite so continuity and momentum are more important.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 26/07/2019 08:44:52    2216626

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Replying To BeJasus:  "Tyrone could get a hiding here"
On what exactly are you basing that conclusion?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 26/07/2019 08:55:17    2216630

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember a certain few Dubs questioning Tyrone 05 and 08 all Ireland's due to the fact they were beat once. (Jim I think, apologies if I'm incorrect).

If the Dubs get beat does that mean their all Ireland is diluted? Unbeaten championship run broke."
It'$ already diluted, i$n't it?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 26/07/2019 09:14:30    2216633

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It'$ already diluted, i$n't it?"
Sorry. NO it won't be 'diluted'. If we win the five in a row we will go down as the greatest team of all time. It's simple.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 26/07/2019 09:38:09    2216647

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It'$ already diluted, i$n't it?"
Did you make that up all on your own? Cavan man always talking about money. Well I never.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/07/2019 09:54:34    2216655

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "This is the most likely way Gavin will manage the rotation situation in my view also. Resting players in a wholesale manner could come back to bite so continuity and momentum are more important."
I'd say he'll start with his strongest 15. It's not Gavin's style to treat Championship matches as an opportunity to experiment. This Dublin team needs a good close match to get them battle hardened for subsequent games. I doubt we'll see Connolly or Brogan. If the Dubs establish a good lead then key players like O'Callaghan, Fenton, McCaffrey will be withdrawn. Perhaps Rory OC will come on later in the game. I also think this will be a very close game. Dubs by 2 or 3 I'd say.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 26/07/2019 10:06:13    2216665

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Replying To festinog:  "Tyrone to win. Debts to be paid."
Six past Morgan. :)

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 26/07/2019 10:20:07    2216677

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Replying To avonali:  "I'd say he'll start with his strongest 15. It's not Gavin's style to treat Championship matches as an opportunity to experiment. This Dublin team needs a good close match to get them battle hardened for subsequent games. I doubt we'll see Connolly or Brogan. If the Dubs establish a good lead then key players like O'Callaghan, Fenton, McCaffrey will be withdrawn. Perhaps Rory OC will come on later in the game. I also think this will be a very close game. Dubs by 2 or 3 I'd say."
Last year Gavin rested almost his whole side when he played Roscommon in the 'dead rubber' third game. He'll do similar again.

Harte will make fewer changes as he doesn't have the same depth, but there's no way on earth he'll be going all out to win a meaningless game just 6 days before an AI semi-final. I'd expect Tyrone make 5-6 changes and rest some key players.

Both managers know that they have only 2 important games left at the end of a long season. This isn't one of them.

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 26/07/2019 10:22:51    2216678

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Replying To Thomas Clarke:  "Last year Gavin rested almost his whole side when he played Roscommon in the 'dead rubber' third game. He'll do similar again.

Harte will make fewer changes as he doesn't have the same depth, but there's no way on earth he'll be going all out to win a meaningless game just 6 days before an AI semi-final. I'd expect Tyrone make 5-6 changes and rest some key players.

Both managers know that they have only 2 important games left at the end of a long season. This isn't one of them."
yes but Dublin played two tough games against Tyrone and Donegal. They shaded it against Tyrone. They were two good competitive games.I felt they played within themselves in our two Super 8 games this year. In fairness, Roscommon last year didn't represent the same kind of threat as Tyrone do every year. The Dubs could well be undercooked going into the semi finals unless they get a good competitive game.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 26/07/2019 10:34:58    2216681

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Ive a funny feeling the Dubs are going to be up for this and no mistake after the league game this year.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/07/2019 11:24:34    2216700

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Replying To avonali:  "Sorry. NO it won't be 'diluted'. If we win the five in a row we will go down as the greatest team of all time. It's simple."
I wouldn't bet on that. They will officially go down as the greatest but questions regarding funding will always remain.

Not sure why people are talking about 5 in a row anyway. With limited competition, constant home games and more funding than most teams put together there is no reason why they cant do 7 or more in a row.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 26/07/2019 12:49:18    2216737

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Replying To kevin03:  "I wouldn't bet on that. They will officially go down as the greatest but questions regarding funding will always remain.

Not sure why people are talking about 5 in a row anyway. With limited competition, constant home games and more funding than most teams put together there is no reason why they cant do 7 or more in a row."
I hope for your sake Mickey Harte doesn't share that defeatist mentality.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 26/07/2019 13:23:36    2216756

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