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Replying To CornAghais91:  "Wow....'does a job on Cluxton'..I'll remember this one."
Ah take it as a compliment. Their keepers implode without anyone needing to 'do a job' on them. Fierce decent that way.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 24/07/2019 08:42:37    2215592

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It sounds like he is. .I'd hope not.

Teams just need to target his kickouts properly. Kerry and Mayo both rattled him in 2017 and no team has tried it since. He is prone to a meltdown and THAT is the biggest threat to the 5 in a row."
No one has tried it since? Are you saying it worked so well that nobody bothered trying to do it again?
In that semi against Kerry, he lost a couple of kickouts at the end of the first half. Kerry profited from them so it got plenty coverage.
What didn't get as much coverage was that Dublin retained possession from every single subsequent kickout in that match. It's not as if Kerry said, that worked twice so we'll stop doing it. He adapted to the situation as he has often done.
The most joy I've seen any team have on the Dublin kickout in recent years was actually Cork a few weeks ago. The effort involved in this seemed to take a heavy toll on them in the last 15 mins. It's incredibly difficult to do for a full match.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2041 - 24/07/2019 08:57:27    2215594

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Replying To witnof:  "Actually he never had a 'meltdown', go back and look at his stats from the games on the kick out.

Since he is the nearly 100% man when 2 or 3 go astray he's had a meltdown. If I remember correctly he 100% of the kick outs in the 2nd half of both matches, and in 2017 it was the tactics rather than Cluxton that caused 1st half problems

You cannot press Cluxton for a whole game, it is too tiring and he will just start to over the press. The only time you can really press is after a break in play, free in or 45 when you have time to set, the rest of the time his speed will put you in trouble."
You're right.

Kerry did it from a free in. And it worked.

They never tried it again in the 2nd half. In fact, they left a free corner back for the remainder of the game.

I'd call kicking the ball to an unmarked man, getting beaten by a static forward under a high ball you've a running jump for, and kicking the next one clean over the sideline a meltdown. Half-time came at the right time for him in that game!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 24/07/2019 09:08:05    2215598

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Replying To cavanman47:  "You're right.

Kerry did it from a free in. And it worked.

They never tried it again in the 2nd half. In fact, they left a free corner back for the remainder of the game.

I'd call kicking the ball to an unmarked man, getting beaten by a static forward under a high ball you've a running jump for, and kicking the next one clean over the sideline a meltdown. Half-time came at the right time for him in that game!"
Goalkeeping errors happen. And as our Galway friend said in his post above, he adapted & steadied the ship and that's why he is captain.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 24/07/2019 10:03:54    2215620

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "No one has tried it since? Are you saying it worked so well that nobody bothered trying to do it again?
In that semi against Kerry, he lost a couple of kickouts at the end of the first half. Kerry profited from them so it got plenty coverage.
What didn't get as much coverage was that Dublin retained possession from every single subsequent kickout in that match. It's not as if Kerry said, that worked twice so we'll stop doing it. He adapted to the situation as he has often done.
The most joy I've seen any team have on the Dublin kickout in recent years was actually Cork a few weeks ago. The effort involved in this seemed to take a heavy toll on them in the last 15 mins. It's incredibly difficult to do for a full match."
That's a very excellent post, your bang on the money about Cork as well.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/07/2019 10:15:01    2215624

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