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Dublin And Tyrone Have A Huge Advantage

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Because they can go into to their Omagh clash on the Sunday afternoon practically able to choose their All Ireland semi final opponent. Those four last round games should all have the same throw in time.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 22/07/2019 15:44:17    2214785

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Replying To Triple H:  "Because they can go into to their Omagh clash on the Sunday afternoon practically able to choose their All Ireland semi final opponent. Those four last round games should all have the same throw in time."
Not the case at all. If they both want to meet the 2nd place team from the other group then they both have to win their own group no? Or am I missing something?

Whyalwaysmeath (Meath) - Posts: 27 - 22/07/2019 15:49:56    2214791

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Replying To Triple H:  "Because they can go into to their Omagh clash on the Sunday afternoon practically able to choose their All Ireland semi final opponent. Those four last round games should all have the same throw in time."
Meath have the obvious advantage as they have 12 months rest now before a semi final next year. ;)

Ill happily take the 6 day turn around and the game on the Saturday for a semi by the way. Didnt we do it last year.

You will probably get someone on then cribbing if its sunny on the Saturday and rainy on Sunday, its not fair because the Dubs get all the advantages.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 22/07/2019 15:57:28    2214795

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Meath have the obvious advantage as they have 12 months rest now before a semi final next year. ;)

Ill happily take the 6 day turn around and the game on the Saturday for a semi by the way. Didnt we do it last year.

You will probably get someone on then cribbing if its sunny on the Saturday and rainy on Sunday, its not fair because the Dubs get all the advantages."
It's not a Dublin thing, just the way it worked out. There should be a free week between last super 8s game and semi final.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 218 - 22/07/2019 16:09:49    2214808

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Replying To Triple H:  "Because they can go into to their Omagh clash on the Sunday afternoon practically able to choose their All Ireland semi final opponent. Those four last round games should all have the same throw in time."
Id say theres nothing much between the teams that will be left in the semis apart from Dublin.....

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12089 - 22/07/2019 18:38:37    2214893

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Tyrone beat Roscommon away and Cork in a neutral venue. They've earned the advantage that brings ahead of the semi-finals.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7884 - 22/07/2019 22:08:53    2215010

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Realistically does it matter what advantages or disadvantages Dublin are given at this stage? It's inevitable that Dublin win 5 in a row this year IMO.
Unless someone does a job on Cluxton. Losing Cluxton might be the only thing that would rock the Dublin boat enough to make it sink before the end line. All other players seem to be immediately replaceable

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 23/07/2019 09:05:23    2215082

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Replying To joeteor:  "It's not a Dublin thing, just the way it worked out. There should be a free week between last super 8s game and semi final."
This is the real issue. There should be two weeks break and then another two to the final. Two weeks gives them time to get all the knocks and muscle injuries sorted and get their game plan together. It feels very rushed the way it is set out.

As for Dublin and Tyrone having an advantage I think they earned it and it was fairly predictable when we saw the groups. Luck of the draw.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 23/07/2019 09:34:22    2215089

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Replying To Cbar:  "Realistically does it matter what advantages or disadvantages Dublin are given at this stage? It's inevitable that Dublin win 5 in a row this year IMO.
Unless someone does a job on Cluxton. Losing Cluxton might be the only thing that would rock the Dublin boat enough to make it sink before the end line. All other players seem to be immediately replaceable"
Are you suggesting someone should deliberately break up Cluxton ?

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 23/07/2019 09:41:00    2215094

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Are you suggesting someone should deliberately break up Cluxton ?"
Maybe split him with their GPS?

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 23/07/2019 10:19:57    2215118

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Replying To Cbar:  "Realistically does it matter what advantages or disadvantages Dublin are given at this stage? It's inevitable that Dublin win 5 in a row this year IMO.
Unless someone does a job on Cluxton. Losing Cluxton might be the only thing that would rock the Dublin boat enough to make it sink before the end line. All other players seem to be immediately replaceable"
Good to see a Mayo man giving his county team a full vote of confidence......not.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 23/07/2019 10:20:06    2215119

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Good to see a Mayo man giving his county team a full vote of confidence......not."
Just trying to be realistic MuckrossHead. I think we have a chance of beating Donegal at home - certainly not favourites but we have a chance. Making a SF this year having lost to Ross would have exceeded my expectations - thankfully I'm not playing!

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 23/07/2019 11:12:54    2215157

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Are you suggesting someone should deliberately break up Cluxton ?"
It sounds like he is. .I'd hope not.

Teams just need to target his kickouts properly. Kerry and Mayo both rattled him in 2017 and no team has tried it since. He is prone to a meltdown and THAT is the biggest threat to the 5 in a row.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 23/07/2019 13:19:48    2215239

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It sounds like he is. .I'd hope not.

Teams just need to target his kickouts properly. Kerry and Mayo both rattled him in 2017 and no team has tried it since. He is prone to a meltdown and THAT is the biggest threat to the 5 in a row."
Actually he never had a 'meltdown', go back and look at his stats from the games on the kick out.

Since he is the nearly 100% man when 2 or 3 go astray he's had a meltdown. If I remember correctly he 100% of the kick outs in the 2nd half of both matches, and in 2017 it was the tactics rather than Cluxton that caused 1st half problems

You cannot press Cluxton for a whole game, it is too tiring and he will just start to over the press. The only time you can really press is after a break in play, free in or 45 when you have time to set, the rest of the time his speed will put you in trouble.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 23/07/2019 15:33:34    2215314

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It sounds like he is. .I'd hope not.

Teams just need to target his kickouts properly. Kerry and Mayo both rattled him in 2017 and no team has tried it since. He is prone to a meltdown and THAT is the biggest threat to the 5 in a row."
What a load of BS

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 23/07/2019 18:37:10    2215393

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Replying To Cbar:  "Realistically does it matter what advantages or disadvantages Dublin are given at this stage? It's inevitable that Dublin win 5 in a row this year IMO.
Unless someone does a job on Cluxton. Losing Cluxton might be the only thing that would rock the Dublin boat enough to make it sink before the end line. All other players seem to be immediately replaceable"
So no reply ? , you are some boyo , looking for a player to be broken up , shame on you .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 23/07/2019 20:35:10    2215435

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Replying To Triple H:  "Because they can go into to their Omagh clash on the Sunday afternoon practically able to choose their All Ireland semi final opponent. Those four last round games should all have the same throw in time."
What if they both want to avoid the 2nd placed team then they both would try to lose now that would be epic

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 23/07/2019 23:52:25    2215537

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Replying To Cbar:  "Realistically does it matter what advantages or disadvantages Dublin are given at this stage? It's inevitable that Dublin win 5 in a row this year IMO.
Unless someone does a job on Cluxton. Losing Cluxton might be the only thing that would rock the Dublin boat enough to make it sink before the end line. All other players seem to be immediately replaceable"
Wow....'does a job on Cluxton'..I'll remember this one.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 24/07/2019 00:01:46    2215538

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Replying To superbluedub:  "So no reply ? , you are some boyo , looking for a player to be broken up , shame on you ."
Did you ever hear of a player called Mickey Ned Sullivan, a player that was disgustingly broken up on the field of play by cowards who couldn't play football.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 24/07/2019 07:20:31    2215574

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At this stage you'd wonder if Tyrone should put a second string out against Dublin and put everything into the semi with 6 day turnaround. if you put full strength team out and got beaten by 10 pts (i don't think that'll happen) would be a big downer going into semi

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 24/07/2019 07:52:32    2215580

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