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Kildare V Tyrone

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Forget the Derby, there is only one show in town this weekend.

I'm hoping for a packed house and a free flowing game of football.

May the best team win.

Up the Lillies

Up Ballymore

lillies1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2 - 28/06/2019 11:37:10    2202041

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I expect a really tight game with Tyrone to edge it...

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 28/06/2019 11:49:27    2202048

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I think we are a much better team and have higher aspirations for the summer. The defeat to Donegal was really disheartening especially the manner of it. However, if we can't beat Kildare and any of the losing provincial finalists, then we really have no business in the super 8s or further afield. In the past we have peaked as the qualifiers have gone on. Hopefully we put in a signature performance on Saturday. Pack the suncreen.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 28/06/2019 12:15:25    2202051

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Bad noises coming out of this Tyrone camp lately. Good few walked away this year and pundits suggesting all is not well amongst them. Maybe things are going stale?

I think kildare will take this handy enough. They are due a decent performance and that should be enough to win. We saw what they did to mayo (a far superior team) in newbridge last year so I expect them in the hat on Monday morning with a decent shout at super 8s again. If they make it to the 8s, that's where Flynn will be missed but not until then.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 28/06/2019 12:35:37    2202057

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Im usually optimistic with Tyrone but I just cant see us winning in Kildare.

There seems to be a dark cloud over Tyrone for whatever reason. We in Tyrone have heard rumours of discontent between the players but I would take that with a pinch of salt. Same as every county, rumours fly around all the time.

Kildare are a hot and cold team but in newbridge with a small pitch, home support and not much pressure on them I expect them to come out flying.

Tyrone don't seem to know what way to play, long ball completely and utterly failed against Donegal, do Tyrone revert to type? Short term it will win games, against Dublin or other big teams, nope.

A lot of Tyrone's main players aren't playing close to the required level, some due to injury. Mattie Donnelly, Niall Sludden, Colm Cavanagh even Petey Harte aren't in form and they are the lynchpins of this Tyrone team. The men who are bought in are not raising them game to compensate.

Unless something clicks on Saturday we are gone.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 28/06/2019 12:35:55    2202058

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Replying To tulachmhór:  "Bad noises coming out of this Tyrone camp lately. Good few walked away this year and pundits suggesting all is not well amongst them. Maybe things are going stale?

I think kildare will take this handy enough. They are due a decent performance and that should be enough to win. We saw what they did to mayo (a far superior team) in newbridge last year so I expect them in the hat on Monday morning with a decent shout at super 8s again. If they make it to the 8s, that's where Flynn will be missed but not until then."
Didn't you tip Longford to do us last weekend?

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 28/06/2019 12:54:24    2202063

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I think Tyrone have notions about themselves which is partly their problem. Granted they got to an All Ireland final last year but I'd put that achievement in the same bracket as Down 2010 and Mayo 2004 in that whilst managing to somehow come through the pack they had little chance of winning it.

I heard Cavanagh repeating last week that Tyrone are the "best running team in Ireland". This gives a clue into their mindset; whilst it's good to aim high these notions are possibly fueling rumours of discontent within the county. I feel MH is getting every inch of potential from an average group of players with a forward line that would struggle to get onto the Donegal/Dublin and possibly Kerry teams.

I think the Donegal game have woken them to the fact they were lucky to win in Ballybofey last year but with Donegal going well again they realise they're second best even in Ulster and got nervous going to Longford so management had to revert to a system that protects the weaknesses in their team.

Whilst I don't think Tyrone will get near the All Ireland Saturday's game is set up perfectly for MH. Tyrone will play an ultra defensive brand of football which Kildare will struggle against frustrating the home crowd. Kildare always do well when allowed to play ball (Mayo last season) but Tyrone won't allow the same space and I can see them winning a poor game by 2 points.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 28/06/2019 13:00:29    2202066

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Tyrone by a fair bit in my opinion.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/06/2019 13:06:34    2202067

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I think this game has come a couple of weeks too soon for Tyrone. If Tyrone got Kildare in the Super 8s after a few qualifier wins, then I would fancy Tyrone, but they have no momentum built up and I think Kildare will win. Nicely priced at 5/2 aswell.

Winning primary possession around the middle will be key I think, and it will be interesting to see who plays there. Kennedy and Colm are likely starters but the pair have struggled themselves recently and will need to find a bit of form for this one. McCann and potentially McGeary are going to be missed badly. Their tackling and direct running are something that's hard to replace.

TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 28/06/2019 13:06:57    2202068

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Replying To OGarmaile:  "Didn't you tip Longford to do us last weekend?"
Ye still chatting about bateing longford?

As someone else said, ye reverted to type to get over the line against a div 3 team decimated of first teamers. Well done. I cant see it being enough in st conleths. Kildare will match ye physically and wont gift easy goals
I'd be happy to be proven wrong as I dont think kildare would offer as much as tyroen in the 8s who probably would improve as the season goes on. This game is too early imho.

All the best either way.

tulachmhór (Offaly) - Posts: 145 - 28/06/2019 13:40:39    2202078

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Replying To tulachmhór:  "Ye still chatting about bateing longford?

As someone else said, ye reverted to type to get over the line against a div 3 team decimated of first teamers. Well done. I cant see it being enough in st conleths. Kildare will match ye physically and wont gift easy goals
I'd be happy to be proven wrong as I dont think kildare would offer as much as tyroen in the 8s who probably would improve as the season goes on. This game is too early imho.

All the best either way."
I do sense a bit of fear around Tyrone fans at the moment but I do expect us to come through this with a bit to spare.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 28/06/2019 13:56:22    2202085

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Paddy Neilan as ref isn't exactly confidence inspiring...

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 28/06/2019 14:52:32    2202105

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People saying Tyrone are just an average team who got lucky last year are talking nonsense. They have some really great players - Donnelly, Harte, Colm Cavanagh, McGeary and Tiernan McCann when he returns from suspension. We have seen Tyrone struggling before early in the year and come good, last year being a prime example. I still expect to see Tyrone in the Super 8s and then all bets are off. They will probably revert to their running game and they are a very good side when that clicks.

Donegal played Kildare on the last day of the league in a winner takes all game for promotion to division one and I was shocked how poor Kildare were. Unless there is vast improvement since then I can't see them beating Tyrone. I thought Kildare played excellent stuff last year and I was expecting them to kick on this year. Much like Tyrone they have some really top players.

I am going for a Tyrone win by 4 points.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 28/06/2019 16:38:29    2202126

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Tyrone will win pretty easily I'd say. Would be (pleasantly) surprised if they don't.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 28/06/2019 16:39:45    2202127

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Draw and Tyrone to win in extra time.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 28/06/2019 17:16:41    2202142

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Tyrone to win with a bit to spare. It's not like Kildare has the most potent attacking options in the country. Tyrone will manage the game and if it suits might just take Kildare to the cleaners. A big game from them is overdue now.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 28/06/2019 18:11:21    2202159

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Having watched our defence strangle the Kildare forwards in Brewster earlier in the year, and how poor they were, I can see Tyrone packing out their defense and winning by 3/4. McShane is in brilliant form and will be the match winner.

shotgun (Fermanagh) - Posts: 130 - 28/06/2019 18:14:09    2202160

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Tyrone to win with a bit to spare. It's not like Kildare has the most potent attacking options in the country. Tyrone will manage the game and if it suits might just take Kildare to the cleaners. A big game from them is overdue now."
You should take us to the cleaners. We've no full forward line at all and rely on our backs for scores. If you can stop them coming forward we're in serious bother.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 28/06/2019 18:46:45    2202165

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "You should take us to the cleaners. We've no full forward line at all and rely on our backs for scores. If you can stop them coming forward we're in serious bother."
Is your man Adam Tyrell not the highest scorer in Ireland??

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 28/06/2019 19:25:00    2202176

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "You should take us to the cleaners. We've no full forward line at all and rely on our backs for scores. If you can stop them coming forward we're in serious bother."
Adam Tyrrell and Neil Flynn scored 0-15 between them against Antrim? I know it's Antrim but they still ticking over the scoreboard. How's Jimmy Hyland been playing?

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 28/06/2019 19:29:31    2202178

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