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Interesting interview with John Horan Regarding Dublin. A few snippets.

"GAA president John Horan has said the chief reason for Dublin's dominance is the work of voluntary coaches and not the funding the county has received over the past decade."

"Almost €18m in games development funding, with Kildare and Meath receiving just over €1m over the same period. Accounting for population the rate of investment in Dublin was still more than double that of any other county".

Good to get the view of the president who doesn't believe the amount of money invested into the development of underage players has much effect on counties like Meath, Kildare or Dublin.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 12/06/2019 19:04:34    2194093

Yep and Trump is not a liar

thegundy (Clare) - Posts: 2 - 12/06/2019 19:24:35    2194106

On behalf of Dubs everywhere I'd just like to say thanks.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/06/2019 19:50:21    2194122

Don't start yet lads just waiting on my popcorn.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7889 - 12/06/2019 20:12:09    2194132

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 12/06/2019 20:36:28    2194140

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/06/2019 20:58:47    2194155

It's all our super duper coaches lads they tell us how to kick the ball straighter than your terrible coaches.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 12/06/2019 21:33:28    2194165

In fairness to Dublin it was a great idea to use volunteers to coach their underage teams. It's up to others to follow, no point moaning :)

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 12/06/2019 21:53:10    2194173

Horan deploying deception or dilusion ?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2581 - 12/06/2019 21:58:44    2194175

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 12/06/2019 22:05:43    2194177

Well that will soften the cough of all the posters out there who said Dublins success was down to their huge population, the billions they have been given by the GAA, playing almost all their championship games at home etc. and all the time it was simply the voluntary coaches. As my granny used to say "put that in your pipe and smoke it ". When I read that, I got in touch with a friend of mine who has very tenuous links to the county board and asked him did we have any of these voluntary coaches. Never heard of them says he but they must be very magical. How else says he would they take a county from relative obscurity to the brink of creating history in such a short space of time. So I got to thinking that the GAA being a very fair organization, I know this because they told us they are, and John Horan being a Dublin man, could they get together with the Dublin county board and spread some of their voluntary coaches around the rest of the country. There would be no point sending them down to us as we'd only f### it up but they could start off with the likes of Leitrim. Now I'm not naive enough to think that Leitrim would become successful immediately, but I'd expect a Connacht title after maybe year two and Sam being paraded around Carrick after year three. Dublin of course, bereft now of their voluntary coaches, would have to suffer a period in the doldrums but the five or maybe six in a row would keep them going during the few barren years. After the Leitrim experiment the voluntary coaches could then be lent out to selected counties. Kerry wouldn't get any as they are good enough as it is and the Dubs generosity isn't boundless, and with a carefully screened breeding programme, before we'd know it most counties would have their very own voluntary coach. Only problem is when the Dubs started winning again we'd start moaning about the population, the money............

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 12/06/2019 22:09:09    2194179

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 12/06/2019 22:29:10    2194185

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 12/06/2019 22:29:28    2194186

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/06/2019 22:56:52    2194196

Look at the Dublin team this year compared to say 2013-2016 personnel wise. Money or no money, it took a brilliant management team to drip feed lads into the mix over the years and the team evolved almost without notice. This team can be beaten, its a question of whether or not the opposition has the balls or the skill to do it.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8589 - 12/06/2019 22:59:36    2194200

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 12/06/2019 23:32:25    2194210

So volunteers training the young lads was the secret all along it had nothing to do with the money!

Volunteers it was so simple why didn't we think of that, we had the lads training them selves and watching videos of the dubs

Thanks for that Johnny boy :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/06/2019 23:35:46    2194211

Off the ball discussed this very topic. Have to say they were spot on. Go to 7 minutes on the video.

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Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 13/06/2019 00:06:14    2194222

Peter Sweeney wrote a good piece on the funding levels a few months ago

"But this isn't a simple matter of money. The right personnel were either in place, such as Dublin GAA CEO John Costello and Ger O'Connor, who was the long-serving head of coaching, or put in place, like Tomás Quinn as commercial manager.

And if it was all about the green stuff, Dublin's hurlers would be knocking off All-Irelands by now too, but they're not. And they're not particularly close either. It can be argued too that their senior footballers are enjoying a once-in-a-generation group of players under a once-in-a-lifetime manager.

Clubs, who have to pay half of their full-time GPO's €36,000 salary, with the rest coming from the GAA, have to fund-raise tirelessly and ensure that they were getting value for money and up their game in terms of recruitment and retention"

If only it was as simplistic as money = success.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 13/06/2019 00:10:19    2194223

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1700 - 13/06/2019 07:34:29    2194239