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Replying To Whammo86:  "The money that the GAA gives to Dublin is development money.

It is spent on coaching juveniles. You literally want to take money away from Dublin's children.

Money is already being redistributed to Meath, Wicklow, Kildare, Louth and Belfast."
Yeah put it into developing children across the rest of the counties. It's a fact that Dublin GAA kids playing receive more money per head then other counties especially in Leinster. Why?

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 19/05/2019 18:00:57    2185533

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Yeah put it into developing children across the rest of the counties. It's a fact that Dublin GAA kids playing receive more money per head then other counties especially in Leinster. Why?"
That's not a fact that more is spent on a Dublin child than other counties. It's incredibly difficult to know how much is spent on coaching development in counties outside of Dublin as GDOs are paid by the Provincial councils in every other county outside of Dublin.

Even if they are getting more.

Dublin GAA formulated the plan and have ensured that they put up half the money themselves.

The money is spent on GDOs that are needed to organise the sheer number of young players that need to be catered for. There is not the same need in other county for the same amount of human capital to be employed for games development. Human capital is expensive, you have to employ someone a living wage in Dublin.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 19/05/2019 18:34:21    2185546

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Yeah put it into developing children across the rest of the counties. It's a fact that Dublin GAA kids playing receive more money per head then other counties especially in Leinster. Why?"
Is it a fact ? links please ?

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 19/05/2019 18:49:13    2185556

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Replying To Whammo86:  "That's not a fact that more is spent on a Dublin child than other counties. It's incredibly difficult to know how much is spent on coaching development in counties outside of Dublin as GDOs are paid by the Provincial councils in every other county outside of Dublin.

Even if they are getting more.

Dublin GAA formulated the plan and have ensured that they put up half the money themselves.

The money is spent on GDOs that are needed to organise the sheer number of young players that need to be catered for. There is not the same need in other county for the same amount of human capital to be employed for games development. Human capital is expensive, you have to employ someone a living wage in Dublin."
How many GAA underage coaches do the GAA employee in each Leinster county. Now compare that to Dublin. If you think the playing field is going to even up in the next 10 years it won't. So instead of taxing Dublins Sponsorship money like someone suggested why not put these funds towards underage coaching around Leinster.

I know they are employed by Dublin but there is a huge number of them and half the funds come from the GAA. Every Dublin club and school is covered or at least close to it. Why in this era of Dublin dominating their province are the GAA putting funds towards that. Any other Leinster county has a handful. Meath do anyway. Most schools and clubs are not covered.

There is an imbalance right from the top to the bottom. It certainly explains results over the last few years and why it won't change.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 19/05/2019 19:57:59    2185597

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Lower Tiers = No Coverage

Well this would be very consistent with every sport in the world. Poor performing teams, don't tend to be of interest to the general public. Hits, viewership, listener-ship - these things are important to people who's jobs are to produce media content.

The current problem of our format is that its not competitive till all the division 1 Counties meet (i.e. Teams of a similar standard)
It seems that a big problem in resolving this problem is the exposure of lower ranked teams. Its kind of like the approach to my 8 year old's school class, everyone should feel like a winner so nobody's feelings are hurt.

If you want something better, some teams will loss out, but the gains will be far greater.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 19/05/2019 20:11:27    2185609

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "How many GAA underage coaches do the GAA employee in each Leinster county. Now compare that to Dublin. If you think the playing field is going to even up in the next 10 years it won't. So instead of taxing Dublins Sponsorship money like someone suggested why not put these funds towards underage coaching around Leinster.

I know they are employed by Dublin but there is a huge number of them and half the funds come from the GAA. Every Dublin club and school is covered or at least close to it. Why in this era of Dublin dominating their province are the GAA putting funds towards that. Any other Leinster county has a handful. Meath do anyway. Most schools and clubs are not covered.

There is an imbalance right from the top to the bottom. It certainly explains results over the last few years and why it won't change."
You claim to know all the facts and figures , links please , im sure you can provide all of what you claim

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 19/05/2019 20:21:47    2185618

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Replying To superbluedub:  "You claim to know all the facts and figures , links please , im sure you can provide all of what you claim"
So facts can't be facts unless they can be found on the internet. Ok.

Waste of time engaging on this topic on here with dubs or their Antrim cheerleader.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 19/05/2019 22:15:03    2185673

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Replying To Greenfield:  "So facts can't be facts unless they can be found on the internet. Ok.

Waste of time engaging on this topic on here with dubs or their Antrim cheerleader."
Not a waste of time engaging with me.

I'd just like a better reason to defund a project that benefits tens of thousands of children a year than Dublin are good now.

Are you going to put those current GDOs out of a job, the GAA actually can't do that.

They are ALREADY now diverting more funds to other high population areas.

If it were any other sports association getting the number of youngsters playing their games as successfully as the GAA their membership would be ecstatic by it.

It's a quirk of the GAA that we have the county system as the top level of our sport and petty rivalry and bitterness is fogging up something that should be incredibly positive.

There's going to be over 15k children born in Dublin this year, I want as many of them playing Gaelic games as possible.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 20/05/2019 07:02:59    2185729

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