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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Corlough's score difference is truly astonishing. An average losing margin of 28 points?

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread that they were packing it in as a club, can anyone confirm?"
I would have no knowledge of wether Corlough are packing it in or not but I think reading into their score difference in the championship wont tell you much. What is astonishing is looking at their league results compared to their championship results. 2 wins and a draw in the league and a couple of competitive performances against Tport(2 point Loss) Shannon Gaels (4 point loss) and mountnugent and redhills (both 6 point losses) to being completely trounced in every championship game would make you wonder where everything went wrong for them in the championship ??

Junior Championship getting to Business end now.

KKere v Knockbride - Wether KKere named a weakend team last week or not I thing they'll live to regret it. Knockbride by 4
Shannon Gaels v Drung- Despite losing to them at the weekend I'll go Shannon Gaels by 2
Tport v Redhills- Tport wont win the championship this year but they'll get to at least the last 4. Tport by 6
Mountnugent v Munchies- Mountnugent by 1 in a heated affair

Westcavan5 (Cavan) - Posts: 21 - 28/08/2019 10:01:33    2230020

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Corlough's score difference is truly astonishing. An average losing margin of 28 points?

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread that they were packing it in as a club, can anyone confirm?"
Corlough came out on top away to The Munchies on a memorable Friday evening in May Score Corlough 0 12 Munterconnaught 0 11

Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 366 - 28/08/2019 10:47:41    2230041

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Replying To Westcavan5:  "I would have no knowledge of wether Corlough are packing it in or not but I think reading into their score difference in the championship wont tell you much. What is astonishing is looking at their league results compared to their championship results. 2 wins and a draw in the league and a couple of competitive performances against Tport(2 point Loss) Shannon Gaels (4 point loss) and mountnugent and redhills (both 6 point losses) to being completely trounced in every championship game would make you wonder where everything went wrong for them in the championship ??

Junior Championship getting to Business end now.

KKere v Knockbride - Wether KKere named a weakend team last week or not I thing they'll live to regret it. Knockbride by 4
Shannon Gaels v Drung- Despite losing to them at the weekend I'll go Shannon Gaels by 2
Tport v Redhills- Tport wont win the championship this year but they'll get to at least the last 4. Tport by 6
Mountnugent v Munchies- Mountnugent by 1 in a heated affair"
Talking to a chap last night he tells me that they are trying to get the clubs up there to form their amalgamated name they use for under age. Might not be a bad idea but Swad will not agree it would seem
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The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4495 - 28/08/2019 12:06:48    2230072

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Replying To Westcavan5:  "I would have no knowledge of wether Corlough are packing it in or not but I think reading into their score difference in the championship wont tell you much. What is astonishing is looking at their league results compared to their championship results. 2 wins and a draw in the league and a couple of competitive performances against Tport(2 point Loss) Shannon Gaels (4 point loss) and mountnugent and redhills (both 6 point losses) to being completely trounced in every championship game would make you wonder where everything went wrong for them in the championship ??

Junior Championship getting to Business end now.

KKere v Knockbride - Wether KKere named a weakend team last week or not I thing they'll live to regret it. Knockbride by 4
Shannon Gaels v Drung- Despite losing to them at the weekend I'll go Shannon Gaels by 2
Tport v Redhills- Tport wont win the championship this year but they'll get to at least the last 4. Tport by 6
Mountnugent v Munchies- Mountnugent by 1 in a heated affair"
Just out of curiosity were you at any of these Corlough league games, some respectable scorelines there for sure. However was it a case of teams playing weakened starting 15s knowing they would have enough to get over the line anyhow, saving players for the more competitive games.

Regarding their results in the junior championship I'm sure teams go for the absolute juggler against teams like corlough and maghera with score difference being so pivotal and could you blame them.

HatchetMan2019 (Cavan) - Posts: 5 - 28/08/2019 12:08:20    2230073

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Regarding the Corlough situation it was said last year that they were disbanding and they still fielded a team this year. I was told alot of injuries to key players did not help their cause come championship and as one would imagine missing any player of a panel of I was told 19 would not help any team . I can't see Swanlinbar/ Shannon Gaels amalgamating to form Dernacreive Gales which would be a strong outfit considering their dominance at underage level . Regardless of what is to happen I am sure these men from either Corlough or Maghera are extremely disappointed with what is happening and maybe there is more the CB can do to help, does anyone on here want to see any club folding ???? They have probably one of the finest set up down there with dressing rooms, field etc and anytime I was lucky enough to be down the way in which things are ran is next to none. Stewart's for league games /underage etc.

I have seen them at the underage amalgamation and some fine footballers playing very entertaining football. Same with Maghera shame to see this happening . Would 4 divisions help these weaker teams as I am not so sure 3 divisions have helped Cavan Football ?

indaknow2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 17 - 28/08/2019 12:38:50    2230093

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My weekend predictions

Senior Championship

Lacken v Ramor Ramor should 9ver the line here by 5 or 6 points

Kingscourt Stars v Searcóg/Shercock Big local Derby Shercock have more than held there own but expect kingscourt to win by 6


Gowna v Killygarry Gowna should win by 4 or 5 impressive last week

Lavey v Cootehill Lavey to ease through by 9

Mullahoran GFC v Crosserlough Crosserlough to ease through by 12 or 13

Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan Toughest I call if the lot Castlerahan by 3

Intermediate

Ballymachugh v Swanlinbar ballymachugh by 10

Ramor v ballinagh Ballinagh by 10

Junior

Templeport v Redhills Tport by 2

Shannon Gaels v Drung S Gaels by 1

Kilinkere v Knockbride Big game this the two favourites you would imagine I expect kilinkere will have too much though kilinkere by 4

Munterconnacht v mountnugent Mountnugent have been impressive so far, so I'll go with them hesitantly by 3.

HatchetMan2019 (Cavan) - Posts: 5 - 28/08/2019 12:46:30    2230097

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Replying To HatchetMan2019:  "Just out of curiosity were you at any of these Corlough league games, some respectable scorelines there for sure. However was it a case of teams playing weakened starting 15s knowing they would have enough to get over the line anyhow, saving players for the more competitive games.

Regarding their results in the junior championship I'm sure teams go for the absolute juggler against teams like corlough and maghera with score difference being so pivotal and could you blame them."
I was at the Shannon gaels and the tport league games with corlough and I have to say both the gaels and tport named as strong of teams as they could on the day and corlough competed with them well. I agree with above comments from that Corlough seemed to be missing a few players through injury in their game last Sunday against Tport and it is impossible for a club so small to compete when missing 2 or 3 players. I Would also agree that the championship and the league should be divided into 4 divisions..when you look at Denn coming top 5 or 6 in div2 and failing to make junior quarter final or kkere intermediate finalists a couple of years ago and div2 winners this year and yet junior 2 years now and will have fair battle to win it this year. The difference in standard in top 8 teams in junior and all of intermediate is minimal. It's the teams like Corlough, maghera, kill and now kildallan falling by the wayside and will continue to do so unless county board brings in a structure to help them.

Westcavan5 (Cavan) - Posts: 21 - 28/08/2019 13:29:23    2230122

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Replying To HatchetMan2019:  "My weekend predictions

Senior Championship

Lacken v Ramor Ramor should 9ver the line here by 5 or 6 points

Kingscourt Stars v Searcóg/Shercock Big local Derby Shercock have more than held there own but expect kingscourt to win by 6


Gowna v Killygarry Gowna should win by 4 or 5 impressive last week

Lavey v Cootehill Lavey to ease through by 9

Mullahoran GFC v Crosserlough Crosserlough to ease through by 12 or 13

Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan Toughest I call if the lot Castlerahan by 3

Intermediate

Ballymachugh v Swanlinbar ballymachugh by 10

Ramor v ballinagh Ballinagh by 10

Junior

Templeport v Redhills Tport by 2

Shannon Gaels v Drung S Gaels by 1

Kilinkere v Knockbride Big game this the two favourites you would imagine I expect kilinkere will have too much though kilinkere by 4

Munterconnacht v mountnugent Mountnugent have been impressive so far, so I'll go with them hesitantly by 3."
Can see some of the senior fixtures being tighter than you think. Money to be made for a betting person who can see teams fielding weaker sides that are already through.

Lacken v Ramor - Ramor with one leg in the quarters. Unless a set of freak results they should be through already. Lacken need at least a point but are without T Galligan. Think they will battle to a draw though.
Kingscourt Stars v Searcóg/Shercock- Can see Kingscourt resting a few names since they are on 5 points although they won't want to lose in this derby. Shercock showing some impressive performances and can see them getting a one point win to push for a quarter spot.
Gowna v Killygarry- Gowna should be through on 4 points with a huge score difference. Killygarry must win and if they have Conor Smith back they just might. Killygarry by 2
Lavey v Cootehill- Cootehill look a shadow of a team. Expect Lavey to win by 7
Mullahoran GFC v Crosserlough - Mullahoran to be put to the sword here. Crosserlough by 10
Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan- Could see a set of second string teams here as they could meet in the quarters or further. Castlerahan by 2

westcavankid (Cavan) - Posts: 82 - 28/08/2019 14:18:03    2230145

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Killygarry by 3
Lavey by 4
Ramor by 5
Kingscourt by 1
Gaels by 5
Crosserlough by 9

Shannon Gaels by 3
Killinkere by 5
Redhills by 1
Mountnugent by 3

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 94 - 29/08/2019 18:07:09    2230498

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My weekend predictions

Senior Championship

Lacken v Ramor - Ramor by 6 points

Kingscourt v Shercock - Kingscourt by 8

Gowna v Killygarry - Gowna by 3

Lavey v Cootehill - Lavey by 5

Mullahoran v Crosserlough - Crosserlough by 11

Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan - Castlerahan by 2

Intermediate

Ballymachugh v Swanlinbar - Ballymachugh by 12

Ramor v Ballinagh - Ballinagh by 8

Junior

Templeport v Redhills - Redhills by 5. Redhills will have too much for Templeport after a good win over Denn

Shannon Gaels v Drung - Shannon Gaels by 2. Will be very tight though

Kilinkere v Knockbride - Gonna go for Knockbride here after what Killinkere done last week. They seem to be afraid of other teams and that's a bad sign of a team who are meant to be favourites for the junior. Knockbride by 2

Munterconnacht v Mountnugent - Mountnugent will have too much for Munterconnacht so Mountnugent by 9

Also I hear Denn rejected their appeal last night with the County Board

Gaaislife (Cavan) - Posts: 2 - 30/08/2019 10:59:47    2230629

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Replying To Westcavan5:  "I was at the Shannon gaels and the tport league games with corlough and I have to say both the gaels and tport named as strong of teams as they could on the day and corlough competed with them well. I agree with above comments from that Corlough seemed to be missing a few players through injury in their game last Sunday against Tport and it is impossible for a club so small to compete when missing 2 or 3 players. I Would also agree that the championship and the league should be divided into 4 divisions..when you look at Denn coming top 5 or 6 in div2 and failing to make junior quarter final or kkere intermediate finalists a couple of years ago and div2 winners this year and yet junior 2 years now and will have fair battle to win it this year. The difference in standard in top 8 teams in junior and all of intermediate is minimal. It's the teams like Corlough, maghera, kill and now kildallan falling by the wayside and will continue to do so unless county board brings in a structure to help them."
Why would the county board go out of there way to support 3 or 4 clubs? By right, if you finish bottom of the Div3 in the league you should be relegated to the reserveDiv1 league. Then they be playing at there own level (possibly) and have a chance at going for promotion the following year. If they don't like it then join with other clubs. Cannot have it every way. So for example this year, Maghera and Corlough I think would have been relegated.

dubcav (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 30/08/2019 12:16:25    2230656

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Lacken v Ramor - Ramor by 5
Kingscourt Stars v Shercock- Kingscourt by 3
Gowna v Killygarry- Draw
Lavey v Cootehill- lavey by 8
Mullahoran GFC v Crosserlough - Crosserlough by 7
Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan - Castlerahan by 3

dubcav (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 30/08/2019 12:19:54    2230657

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Replying To dubcav:  "Why would the county board go out of there way to support 3 or 4 clubs? By right, if you finish bottom of the Div3 in the league you should be relegated to the reserveDiv1 league. Then they be playing at there own level (possibly) and have a chance at going for promotion the following year. If they don't like it then join with other clubs. Cannot have it every way. So for example this year, Maghera and Corlough I think would have been relegated."
The County Board is not going out of it's way that you can be sure of nor I am sure did any of these Clubs have asked for this but if you knew enough about the subject would reserve Division 1 be the place for these teams? Playing Ramor/ Cavan Gaels/ Castlerahan . Bear in mind the teams been mentioned this is their only team it is a numbers issue nothing else.
I asked the question about a division 4 merely on the basis that with all the facilities and all the manys hours of hard work these club people like every other club in the county put in that it is such a pity that possibly (and I use that word lightly as I have heard this subject been talked now for a long time . ) a club will fold in our county.
Again I don't think if it is not liking or liking regarding joining other clubs, this is not the easiest of things to do politics/rule books etc . But one thing I can be sure of once two clubs in this county join then the begrudging will start.
Not that long ago there was 4 Divisions - it was reduced to 3 for the better of the standard of Cavan Football and I just wonder has this happened ??

indaknow2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 17 - 30/08/2019 15:19:52    2230728

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Replying To dubcav:  "Why would the county board go out of there way to support 3 or 4 clubs? By right, if you finish bottom of the Div3 in the league you should be relegated to the reserveDiv1 league. Then they be playing at there own level (possibly) and have a chance at going for promotion the following year. If they don't like it then join with other clubs. Cannot have it every way. So for example this year, Maghera and Corlough I think would have been relegated."
Your knowledge of Cavan club football seems limited at best with this reply. In my opinion the return to 3 divisions has not helped Cavan football in any way, maybe you have a different opinion. If only everything was as black and white as you make it seem by just joining with other clubs. Corlough or maghera don't want it every way, they just want to play football and put in place the best encouragement for their young players coming true. If you look at the improvements made by maghera and corlough this year in trying to be competitive I don't know why you would suggest relegating them to undo all their hard work. The county board has an obligation to help every club in this county considering they are all paying considerable money to the county board every year. Does young Muldoon in maghera or young McGovern in Corlough not deserve to be playing for their own club at as high a level as possible like all the rest of their peers. Low numbers is not corlough or magheras fault. The people in these clubs put in as much work as the people in castlerahan or killygarry or ramor or any other club in the county so I don't think they should be told go join another club.

Westcavan5 (Cavan) - Posts: 21 - 30/08/2019 20:33:06    2230821

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Replying To dubcav:  "Why would the county board go out of there way to support 3 or 4 clubs? By right, if you finish bottom of the Div3 in the league you should be relegated to the reserveDiv1 league. Then they be playing at there own level (possibly) and have a chance at going for promotion the following year. If they don't like it then join with other clubs. Cannot have it every way. So for example this year, Maghera and Corlough I think would have been relegated."
Your knowledge of Cavan club football seems limited at best with this reply. In my opinion the return to 3 divisions has not helped Cavan football in any way, maybe you have a different opinion. If only everything was as black and white as you make it seem by just joining with other clubs. Corlough or maghera don't want it every way, they just want to play football and put in place the best encouragement for their young players coming true. If you look at the improvements made by maghera and corlough this year in trying to be competitive I don't know why you would suggest relegating them to undo all their hard work. The county board has an obligation to help every club in this county considering they are all paying considerable money to the county board every year. Does young Muldoon in maghera or young McGovern in Corlough not deserve to be playing for their own club at as high a level as possible like all the rest of their peers. Low numbers is not corlough or magheras fault. The people in these clubs put in as much work as the people in castlerahan or killygarry or ramor or any other club in the county so I don't think they should be told go join another club.

Westcavan5 (Cavan) - Posts: 21 - 30/08/2019 20:49:43    2230826

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Crazy finish to the Killinkere v Knockbride game. Killinkere with a goal straight from a free with last kick of the match. They also got a goal direct from a 45. Knockbride will wonder how they lost that game after Killinkere had a man sent off in 2nd half aswell.

Total_Football (Cavan) - Posts: 69 - 30/08/2019 22:02:21    2230843

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Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals

* Castlerahan vs. Killygarry
* Kingscourt Stars vs. Cavan Gaels
* Ramor Utd vs. Gowna
* Crosserlough vs. Lavey

Fixtures for the above Quarter Finals will be played weekend ‪Sept 13th-15th.‬

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5236 - 01/09/2019 08:23:36    2231112

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Replying To Westcavan5:  "Your knowledge of Cavan club football seems limited at best with this reply. In my opinion the return to 3 divisions has not helped Cavan football in any way, maybe you have a different opinion. If only everything was as black and white as you make it seem by just joining with other clubs. Corlough or maghera don't want it every way, they just want to play football and put in place the best encouragement for their young players coming true. If you look at the improvements made by maghera and corlough this year in trying to be competitive I don't know why you would suggest relegating them to undo all their hard work. The county board has an obligation to help every club in this county considering they are all paying considerable money to the county board every year. Does young Muldoon in maghera or young McGovern in Corlough not deserve to be playing for their own club at as high a level as possible like all the rest of their peers. Low numbers is not corlough or magheras fault. The people in these clubs put in as much work as the people in castlerahan or killygarry or ramor or any other club in the county so I don't think they should be told go join another club."
ok first of all, not sure how you can say I have limited knowledge of club football. I don't know you and you do not know me so please do not come out with silly statements. can you explain the "improvements" you know of made by Maghera or Corlough? They (young decent footballers) absolutely deserve to play with their clubs at the level that their clubs deserve to play at. Should a club be allowed to pay above there level because of a couple of decent footballers? At the moment they are getting rolled over week in week out at junior level. What does that do for their football careers? As for joining other clubs, I do understand that it is not black and white at all, but it is an option and quite frankly seems the best option!

dubcav (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 02/09/2019 10:40:26    2231753

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Replying To PatTheDandy:  "A tough weekend on the prediction and accumulator front.

Outside of what appears to be a very loose call picking Swad to beat Bailieborough and perhaps Killygarry to beat Kingscourt, I think a lot of the results at the weekend could not have been foreseen.

On the two most "suspicious" results, I don't think Killeshandra can shoulder much blame as they are probably focusing on the relegation playoff at this stage having been more or less out already, and 22 points for Drumgoon is no easy feat to rack up in any situation. I'm afraid that Cornafean have only themselves to blame as they obviously didn't do enough in their own games.

Although Drumgoon, now face the nervous wait to see if Ballinagh can keep them in the competition by not losing to Ramor B's by 15 points or more.

On the Killinkere result, that is much harder to fathom when you hear they had near a full team out. I have seen Munterconnaught once or twice over the last few years, and they are a strong and athletic team but have a few busy forwards that are not necessarily natural finishers and can kick a lot of wides. Perhaps it was a day that everything just clicked?

If that was the case then Killinkere will be worried, however you would still have to harbour some suspicion that the Denn result was being monitored with KK seeing them as a major threat, which again, would be only Denn's fault for not doing enough themselves. But only Killinkere will know that I suppose. Heavyweight clash with Knockbride now, and at least one team who was unfancied at the start of the c'ship will make the final now. I would make T'port my dark horses and finalists now but Junior looks to have come into line with the intermediate as a very tight and unpredictable competition also.

Predictions for next weekend below:

SFC Round 4 draw:
Lacken v Ramor United - Lacken by 1
Kingscourt v Shercock - Shercock by 1 (No point in starting to tip K'scourt at this late stage)
Gowna v Killygarry - Gowna by 5
Lavey v Cootehill - Lavey by 14
Mullahoran v Crosserlough - Crosserlough by 11
Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan - Castlerahan by 4

JFC Quarter-finals:
Mountnugent v Munterconnacht - Munterconnaught by 1
Redhills v Templeport - Templeport by 2
Drung v Shannon Gaels - Shannon Gaels by 4
Killinkere v Knockbride - Killinkere by 3"
Misjudged the way the Knockbride KK went In Breffni but I think it's fair to say that I nailed those junior predictions again..

Kingscourt still have the Indian sign over me but I will catch them in the long grass..

Unexpected result for Killygarry but great to see them winning for the c'ship on the whole..

My c'ship winners below:

Junior: Templeport
Intermediate: Butlersbridge
Senior: Castlerahan

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 173 - 02/09/2019 19:09:16    2232051

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* Castlerahan vs. Killygarry
* Kingscourt Stars vs. Cavan Gaels
* Ramor Utd vs. Gowna
* Crosserlough vs. Lavey

Predictions:

Killygarry have done well to maintain their Division 1 status and avoid a relegation play off. With everyone fit, they could make a big impact but they've had a good year considering the injuries they have. Castlerahan are a seasoned outfit and will win this. Killygarry the team to watch over the next few years if they can keep lads off the treatment table.

Who knows what Gaels team will turn up? The one that blew Lavey and Cootehill away or the team hammered by Lough and Castlerahan. Word of trouble in the camp which is the opposite of Kingscourt who seem to have unified following the loss of some key players through injury. I think the best player in Cavan at the minute Faulkner will see Kingscourt through.

Ramor, again, like the Gaels - its hard to know which team will turn up - the one that were beaten by Killygarry or the team which beat a very fancied Crosserlough. This is the tightest of the four ties in my opinion and could go either way but I'll go with Gowna as Ramor have been inconsistent.

Lavey have done well to make the last 8 again but have no bench and with Gerry Smith's hamstring gone they're in big trouble. The Lough could win this one by +10 as Lavey were porous at the back even in Division 2 and Crosserlough's running game will trouble them like the Gaels did.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 357 - 02/09/2019 19:38:38    2232062

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