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Based on the league standings seed all the teams 1-32 JuniorBee (Mayo) - Posts: 40 - 14/03/2019 18:57:01 2172254 Link 1 |
With much discussion about club v county scheduling - I feel the inter-county player's annual workload should be restricted to allow for more open club scheduling. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 15/03/2019 01:12:58 2172315 Link 0 |
I don't think there'd have to be such a hard limit on the number of fixtures. The season is badly organised rather than having too many games. From start of March to the end of July is 22 weeks. A season of up to 16 to 18 games could be accommodated with some rest weekends for each team. Club championship would start sharply in August to be completed in 17 weeks or so before Christmas. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 15/03/2019 18:48:28 2172444 Link 4 |
39-week season on and 13 off is fine and about right - but instead of 22 weeks for county / 17 clubs, reversing to 17 county (with 5 weeks off) and 22 for clubs (with breaks) would benefit the 98% of players more. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 15/03/2019 22:38:43 2172481 Link 0 |
The club players can play league competitions without county players.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 15/03/2019 22:48:07 2172486 Link 4 |
Something incredibly simple but very exciting would be a 3 tier league season played from May Day to the August bank holidays. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 16/03/2019 06:37:46 2172503 Link 4 |
Agreed. Most county players don't play club league games anyway so clubs should plan on playing league games along side the league. This would give club players regular football. Similar to county set up I remember playing more football by April 1st in awful weather conditions than I played in the summer.
JuniorBee (Mayo) - Posts: 40 - 16/03/2019 16:38:40 2172629 Link 0 |
Yes, I do feel 3 divs is the sweet spot - it's odd that over 40 yrs the NFL has used both 4 and 2 division set ups - but never 3. Still, I wonder if 11 games in 14 weeks is a bit much for unpaid players in Div 1. Like my bye scheduling for Prov Hurling (A, BCD, E, ABC, D, E) - I think I would limit inter-county play to 2 out of every 3 weeks. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 19/03/2019 00:07:31 2173568 Link 0 |
I think the cleanest solution to the fixture issue is - make all inter-county players ineligible for their clubs - then club and county championships could overlap over a longer interval - say, 39 weeks, Feb 1 to Oct 31. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 19/03/2019 00:28:53 2173571 Link 0 |
Over 39 weeks, I'd like a 26-match season (say, best teams play 2 pre season, 20 regular season, 2 AI KO, byes to 2 Prov SF KO). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 19/03/2019 02:38:34 2173579 Link 0 |
For greater reward for finishing higher in the table, I amend the top 6 KO in each div - top 2 to Championship Final (both go up) and Playoff SFs of 3v6 and 4v5 (Playoff Champ becomes 3rd team to go up). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 19/03/2019 10:25:03 2173624 Link 0 |
I think the football could start the week before May Day. May Day Bank Holiday weekend start the hurling and a 2nd round of football. That'd be a huge weekend of action. Finish the Hurling and Football league sections both on the August Bank holiday with lower level finals in both codes that weekend. Hurling semifinals the weekend after, then Football Semifinals, Hurling Final and football final 4th Weekend in August. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 19/03/2019 12:30:13 2173671 Link 4 |
But why narrow the window - with a 13-week off season, we hsve a 39-week span otherwise - to be clear, I am going with 26-match intwr-counry season ONLY if such players don't play club as well - otherwise, I restrict inter-county play to a 17-week span. Make your choice ! omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 20/03/2019 00:03:10 2173837 Link 0 |
No The season could easily incorporate a 22/23 week season for IC with 17 weeks for club. No one wants county players to not play for their club but no one needs for them to be around for an entire club season. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 20/03/2019 15:35:36 2173978 Link 4 |
The weather on Saturday made the case for moving the start of the league to April. Mayo have played in a hurricane and monsoon conditions so fat this year and while you can't guarantee that it won't rain throughout the spring and summer you can guarantee that the pitches will be in better playing condition. JuniorBee (Mayo) - Posts: 40 - 20/03/2019 16:04:08 2173990 Link 0 |
I was just saying if one wanted to expand the IC game quantity while having club schedules overlap in the summer, this change would work - although you may not be in favor (I like the rugby provs being no longer representative of underlying club sides). Btw - excl. IC players, how many games would you gave the 98% of club players actually playing annually - either over your 17 weeks, or 40 weeks (if 23 plus 17 weeks) ? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 20/03/2019 22:53:10 2174088 Link 0 |
I played senior club football back in the 80's and it was a rarity to have our county players play a league game even back then. They only played in the championship. Club players main complaint is that you can go weeks if not months without a competitive game. If the league games were played every second week and the club games played, without the IC players, played on the weekends in between the county games it would give club players a regular schedule
JuniorBee (Mayo) - Posts: 40 - 21/03/2019 16:58:04 2174234 Link 0 |
I am in the US 30+ yrs now, so sorry I don't follow the obvious. If there is a general point that IC players don't play club league games, what prevents club leagues being played every 2nd week ?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2590 - 21/03/2019 22:10:53 2174278 Link 0 |
The problem's mainly involve getting championships run off in some counties. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 22/03/2019 01:05:32 2174300 Link 4 |
My suggestion is to make the league into the championship. Keep the 4 divisions as is, but play home and away, this in turn guarantees every county at least 14 matches a year. Under the current system, a county like my own, will probably play around 10 matches a year(excluding O'Byrne cup). In division 1, the top 4 would go into the AI semi-final, while in the other divisions, the usual 2 promoted and 2 relegated would apply. As for the provincial championship's, what's the point? For Louth this year, a win over Wexford will see us then lose by 20 points + to Dublin. PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 22/03/2019 07:36:16 2174305 Link 0 |