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Joanne Cantwell

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Was very impressed with her on Sunday night. Didn't let Brolly off topic and actually added to the debate. Cant understand the negative reaction online to her, the games were actually discussed as a result.

Anyway I hope to see more of Joanne on the TV in the anchor chair.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/01/2019 12:41:22    2160906

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Was very impressed with her on Sunday night. Didn't let Brolly off topic and actually added to the debate. Cant understand the negative reaction online to her, the games were actually discussed as a result.

Anyway I hope to see more of Joanne on the TV in the anchor chair."
Can we do away with Brolly. Surely the majority of viewers think he is too hard to listen too. He rabbles on, interrupts and pushes his own agenda which usually deflects from what the people want to see. He once said Cavan was the black death of GAA. I think brolly is now the black death of GAA punditry. he should be left to squalor in the newspapers were you have a choice to read his opinion and not rammed down your throat.

foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 30/01/2019 13:16:58    2160917

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A big improvement on Michael Lyster in my opinion.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/01/2019 13:33:46    2160924

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Wasn't impressed with her at all I have to say. I will cut her some slack as she is new to the job and will take time to grow into the role. She will need to learn that the pundits are there to give their opinion and she is there to steer the conversation and present the show. Lyster made this look effortlessly easy and she will probably suffer initially as those comparisons continue to be made. A good anchor will allow the pundits to express their opinions, cut them off when required and seek clarification on unclear points etc etc. I felt she was definitely too forceful on Sunday night but as I say she's learning so let's give her time. I'm sure Michael Lyster, Bill O'Herlihy and all great presenters took their time to learn their craft so let's give her the same.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 206 - 30/01/2019 13:41:55    2160931

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If a pundit is making a point and there's clear examples of him being wrong. Like saying a game was too defensive and both teams dont know how to attack and Joanne pointing out that the match was high scoring (happened between herself and Brolly last year) I agree with her.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 30/01/2019 13:59:14    2160938

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Replying To MesAmis:  "A big improvement on Michael Lyster in my opinion."
I disagree with you. Brolly was there to analyse the game not the rules. All you hear him on about these days is the ill's of the game......and yes there are plenty and there is a need for discussion on that. But if he was asked about Brexit he would turn it into giving out about blanket defences!

Has he ever analysed the tactical intricacies of a game or explained how teams are set up and what they are trying to do in any great detail. It is all general, broad sweeping statements and made up facts.

He decided to make up the reason for the mark and he was pulled on it. Rightly so.

Canavan on sky was excellent.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1834 - 30/01/2019 14:13:03    2160944

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I thought Joanne Cantwell did a decent job just as she did when taking over the odd show last year. It's too early to start criticising someone like.

Daragh Maloney is the RTE soccer presenter, is he not? That's enough work for one person.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 30/01/2019 15:11:08    2160961

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She was great, really refreshing, knows her stuff as well was able to reference the club game and sigursson, think thats the first time ive ever heard that on RTE.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/01/2019 15:39:50    2160971

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I think Cantwell is decent and so is Maloney. Both well capable and bring different perspectives.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1834 - 30/01/2019 15:40:50    2160972

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Joanne is a former inter-county footballer working in the media for nearly 20 years. A very smart and clued-in lady. She's more than capable of dealing with Brolly's outbursts. It's just a pity he acts like he did last Sunday and not show her the respect she deserves.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 30/01/2019 16:16:27    2160984

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  "Wasn't impressed with her at all I have to say. I will cut her some slack as she is new to the job and will take time to grow into the role. She will need to learn that the pundits are there to give their opinion and she is there to steer the conversation and present the show. Lyster made this look effortlessly easy and she will probably suffer initially as those comparisons continue to be made. A good anchor will allow the pundits to express their opinions, cut them off when required and seek clarification on unclear points etc etc. I felt she was definitely too forceful on Sunday night but as I say she's learning so let's give her time. I'm sure Michael Lyster, Bill O'Herlihy and all great presenters took their time to learn their craft so let's give her the same."
I have to disagree with you. She was excellent. Michael Lyster gave Brolly, O Rourke and Spillane free rein. They were allowed to say what they wanted. At times they chose to rehash their weekly columns . There was never any structure to the Sunday Game Live. It became a very sad parody of what it could and should have been when Brolly, O Rourke and Spillane were the analysts . There was very little real analysis on that programme . Contrast it with the hurling edition of The Sunday Game Live . I always felt informed and entertained watching the analysis on that programme . The Sunday Game Live with Brolly, Spillane and O Rourke was a shapeless, self serving mess. Joanne Cantwell called Joe Brolly out on his hypothesising and rightly so. He has been allowed far too much leeway in the past . Her stewardship of the programme was sharp, informed and refreshing . Brolly didn't like being called out on his comments one bit . Hopefully he will have to get used to it because the football edition of The Sunday Game desperately needs it .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 30/01/2019 16:33:15    2160985

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She was very good. Didn't let Joe hijack the show like ML used to do.

She seems to know her stuff. Long may it continue

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 30/01/2019 16:39:19    2160987

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Haven't seen Joanne yet but I have it recorded.
Thank God for the remote control.

A couple of years ago I became so frustrated and annoyed at the negativity and the putting-down of football by Brolly, Spillane and co that I recorded every Sunday game rather than listen to negative mantra live. I can then ignore the "analysis" - for want of a better word and just watch the game highlights.
Btw when I do this I realize how much waffle there is and how little game time is shown .
Sky have it spot on, Canavan is great. Always informed and logical analysis.
Good luck to Joanne in her new role - hammer them Joanne, they might stop talking rubbish.

fullbach (Carlow) - Posts: 264 - 30/01/2019 17:22:42    2160999

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Not really a fan of her style of constant interruptions. Not just Brolly either. It was with everyone.

There is an art to letting conversation flow and personally I don't like seeing the host getting too involved. Just steer the conversation but don't become part of it.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2217 - 30/01/2019 17:27:17    2161002

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Cantwell is even more annoying than Brolly and that is some trick. Bland, boring drone like questions like something off Virgin or Eir truly dreadful. At least with TG4 you can have fun guessing what they saying on RTE you just turn the sound down.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 30/01/2019 18:08:01    2161015

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Replying To Marooned:  "Not really a fan of her style of constant interruptions. Not just Brolly either. It was with everyone.

There is an art to letting conversation flow and personally I don't like seeing the host getting too involved. Just steer the conversation but don't become part of it."
The problem is that it wasn't conversation . Brolly, Spillane and O Rourke inflicted the same relentlessly negative, self serving monologues on us week in week out . Michael Lyster allowed them to do that . Joanne Cantwell doesn't seem prepared to allow this to happen and thankfully so .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 30/01/2019 18:22:19    2161019

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First of all let me say I like Joanne, she's very good and will get better. But in the name of RTE's lefty agenda, Moloney was never going to get the gig, I'm surprised Panty Bliss didn't get it at this stage.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 30/01/2019 18:24:25    2161020

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Joanne is a former inter-county footballer working in the media for nearly 20 years. A very smart and clued-in lady. She's more than capable of dealing with Brolly's outbursts. It's just a pity he acts like he did last Sunday and not show her the respect she deserves."
That really annoyed me. I think there was more than a little bit of sexist undercurrent to that little jibe about it going to be a long year.

I know who I'd rather stick around if they can't work together and it's not Mister Brolly.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 30/01/2019 18:36:50    2161022

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Can we do away with Brolly. Surely the majority of viewers think he is too hard to listen too. He rabbles on, interrupts and pushes his own agenda which usually deflects from what the people want to see. He once said Cavan was the black death of GAA. I think brolly is now the black death of GAA punditry. he should be left to squalor in the newspapers were you have a choice to read his opinion and not rammed down your throat.
foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 122 - 1/30/19 1:16:58 PM
I wouldnt stop using Brolly. Just have people on who will counter the bluster he comes out with all too often

A big improvement on Michael Lyster in my opinion.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12193 - 1/30/19 1:33:46 PM
wouldnt be difficult. Lyster was old school in worst/best way. Didnt challenge the panel members anywhere near enough. RTE had to move on

Wasn't impressed with her at all I have to say. I will cut her some slack as she is new to the job and will take time to grow into the role. She will need to learn that the pundits are there to give their opinion and she is there to steer the conversation and present the show. Lyster made this look effortlessly easy and she will probably suffer initially as those comparisons continue to be made. A good anchor will allow the pundits to express their opinions, cut them off when required and seek clarification on unclear points etc etc. I felt she was definitely too forceful on Sunday night but as I say she's learning so let's give her time. I'm sure Michael Lyster, Bill O'Herlihy and all great presenters took their time to learn their craft so let's give her the same.
TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 44 - 1/30/19 1:41:55 PM
She isnt new to the role as a presenter and she's worked very well as a presenter on Against The Head and many other shows before.
Yes pundits are there to give opinions but the presenter is as well and the presenter is there to call out bulls*** and nonsense from panelists. Lyster didnt steer the show half as well as he could of and let Brolly etc say crap that should have been countered a lot more.

Not really a fan of her style of constant interruptions. Not just Brolly either. It was with everyone.
There is an art to letting conversation flow and personally I don't like seeing the host getting too involved. Just steer the conversation but don't become part of it.
Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 1534 - 1/30/19 5:27:17 PM
But you are assuming that is what the hosts job is. It isnt. They are as much a part of the conversation as any others

Cantwell is even more annoying than Brolly and that is some trick. Bland, boring drone like questions like something off Virgin or Eir truly dreadful. At least with TG4 you can have fun guessing what they saying on RTE you just turn the sound down.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 3888 - 1/30/19 6:08:01 PM
Ah she isnt bland. Now Michael Lyster was bland. Joanne is far from it.

First of all let me say I like Joanne, she's very good and will get better. But in the name of RTE's lefty agenda, Moloney was never going to get the gig, I'm surprised Panty Bliss didn't get it at this stage.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7100 - 1/30/19 6:24:25 PM
Lefty agenda....??? You havent a clue if you think RTE is orientated that way.....

DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 30/01/2019 18:57:57    2161029

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Replying To Greengrass:  "The problem is that it wasn't conversation . Brolly, Spillane and O Rourke inflicted the same relentlessly negative, self serving monologues on us week in week out . Michael Lyster allowed them to do that . Joanne Cantwell doesn't seem prepared to allow this to happen and thankfully so ."
Unfortunately she spoke over everyone last week. Including the hurling pundits.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2217 - 30/01/2019 19:13:54    2161032

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