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GAA looking for rule changes to gaelic football I'll start the ball rolling please feel free to join in with comments or suggestions

1. Both teams must have at least 4 players inside their opponents 45 at all stages during the game (This would help to eliminate the blanket defences)

2. Ball can be picked straight off the ground

3. Do away with the black card and introduce 10 minute sin bin for yellow card offences

4. After 5 consecutive handpasses the ball must be kicked, punishment for breaking rule a free for opposing team

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 24/08/2018 12:57:56    2136251

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I'd like to see all the rules you said implemented with exception of the 10 mins sin bin, i thinks too long for 70 min game, maybe have it a 7 minute sin bin

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 24/08/2018 13:12:07    2136259

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All kick outs must go beyond the 45 metre line...that would improve immensely because quite simply a short kick out to an unmarked corner back only to slowly and ponderously handpass the way up to the halfway line is tedious to watch

id also introduce the aussie rules tackle in because in fairness in every match i watch somebody is wrongly called for something and other tackles are being missed.it is hard to referee when a player is swarmed by 3 or 4 players all batting and patting. this rule would never ever be put in place but it would make it more watchable knowing a player in possession of the ball will be much more panicked if a player is getting close to him forcing him to move on possession or risk losing the ball

pick the ball straight off the ground is a straighforward way of speeding things up and would make the game much more slicker

pidge (Cork) - Posts: 543 - 24/08/2018 13:16:09    2136261

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Once the ball is inside the 65 it can't be passed back outside the 65.

Most of the other ones mentioned are hard to implement.

I'd go with 5 minute sin bin for yellow card offenses.

Cynical fouls should additionally be punished with the free being automatically brought forward 14 yards. Cynical foul inside the 21 and D should be a penalty.

Sin bin for slowing down the restart kick.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 24/08/2018 13:29:35    2136268

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We have to be realistic with rule changes - referee's can't even properly enforce over carrying which has been in the rule book since the 1890s!
How are they going to keep track of any limitation on hand passing.

The only real way to diminish the hand-pass plague is to frame rules which incentives and rewards kicking and the use of the footpass. Perhaps a shot clock is more of a runner in this regard.

I would also agree with getting rid of the black card and reintroducing a sin bin.

I also think it is worth considering a rule that requires a certain amount of players to be in the opposition half at all times to help negate overly defensive football.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 24/08/2018 13:30:53    2136269

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1. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever allow Jim McGuinness or Mickey Harte manage an IC team.
Those 2 lads have destroyed Gaelic Football. The game now is an abomination. It's horrible. If it goes on the way it is now it will die off in a generation as no body will want to play it or pay in to watch it.

Ok, so maybe I am reaching with the Jim McG and Mickey H thing, but I do genuinely believe that McGuinness in particular has had a HUGELY negative effect on Gaelic Football. I would hate to see him get a Mayo job for instance as he would then have them doing similar and if one of Mayo or Kerry start that craic then we really may as well throw it in the bin and all buy hurleys

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/08/2018 13:34:20    2136271

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Only rule change I would like to see is the amount of subs allowed reduced to 3.

FarneyheadFarneyheart (Monaghan) - Posts: 14 - 24/08/2018 13:40:54    2136275

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "GAA looking for rule changes to gaelic football I'll start the ball rolling please feel free to join in with comments or suggestions

1. Both teams must have at least 4 players inside their opponents 45 at all stages during the game (This would help to eliminate the blanket defences)

2. Ball can be picked straight off the ground

3. Do away with the black card and introduce 10 minute sin bin for yellow card offences

4. After 5 consecutive handpasses the ball must be kicked, punishment for breaking rule a free for opposing team"
I think the first one will certainly make football easier to watch for sure.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 24/08/2018 13:51:11    2136282

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First off I think the youth managers should teach the rules properly, I remember at U-14 I was always scoring "square ball" goals, the managers had never told me about this rule, the same with tackling, the referee was always blowing the whistle at my tackling.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 223 - 24/08/2018 13:55:54    2136284

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Donaghy reckons the black card should be gone and replaced with any cynical foul committed outside the 21 meter line the ball being moved into the 21 meter line and any cynical foul inside the 21 to be punished with a penalty .

The kickouts to go beyond the 45 and 4 players back at all times Is a good idea.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/08/2018 13:57:49    2136288

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One simple rule, bring in the tackle as it is in the compromise rules game. It means that the ball is moved more quickly and any grab tackle below the shoulders is allowed. (Except a deliberate trip or tackles with the feet)

It also gives an incentive for the defending team to put pressure on the player in possession rather than sitting back

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 24/08/2018 14:15:25    2136295

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "First off I think the youth managers should teach the rules properly, I remember at U-14 I was always scoring "square ball" goals, the managers had never told me about this rule, the same with tackling, the referee was always blowing the whistle at my tackling."
That's an interesting point and reminds me of the '2 touch' rule in underage (our u15s are still at this crack, 15 a side, full size pitch).

I see why this is done at underage, to prevent 'stronger' players dominating but it has the side affect of promoting sideways and backwards play by inhibiting progress. I wonder how much this filters upwards.

I also like the timer in Ladies GAA - big clock stopped for injuries and the like. Everyone has a clear idea of where the game time is at and 'injury time' goes away as a concept.

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 194 - 24/08/2018 14:27:25    2136307

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Changing the tackle to an Aussie rules tackle is too drastic a change in my opinion.

It'd make it a totally different game.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 24/08/2018 14:32:44    2136310

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Replying To TearsIn85:  "That's an interesting point and reminds me of the '2 touch' rule in underage (our u15s are still at this crack, 15 a side, full size pitch).

I see why this is done at underage, to prevent 'stronger' players dominating but it has the side affect of promoting sideways and backwards play by inhibiting progress. I wonder how much this filters upwards.

I also like the timer in Ladies GAA - big clock stopped for injuries and the like. Everyone has a clear idea of where the game time is at and 'injury time' goes away as a concept."
I don't ever remember that rule, we were allowed to play normally but noone actually sat down and told us the rules of the game, it was just learning as you went along

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 223 - 24/08/2018 14:42:20    2136316

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Replying To TheHermit:  "We have to be realistic with rule changes - referee's can't even properly enforce over carrying which has been in the rule book since the 1890s!
How are they going to keep track of any limitation on hand passing.

The only real way to diminish the hand-pass plague is to frame rules which incentives and rewards kicking and the use of the footpass. Perhaps a shot clock is more of a runner in this regard.

I would also agree with getting rid of the black card and reintroducing a sin bin.

I also think it is worth considering a rule that requires a certain amount of players to be in the opposition half at all times to help negate overly defensive football."
Colm Parkinson asked Pat Mc Aneaney how hard it was to ref the international rules with the limit on the handpass and he explained it was very easy, he called out each pass as it went and everyone knew where they stood.

And again its an obvious thing to see, everyone on the pitch can see it, it would be very easy to limit the amount of hand passes in reality.

The black card is a farce that isnt actually used any more, imagine people thought it was a good idea to bring in a rule where you had to decipher someones intentions before applying the rule, bonkers! The sin bin is a much better idea but the rule itself needs to be defined also.

An offensive mark is something to be looked at also imho ( a clean catch inside the 45 with 5 seconds to play the ball where you cant be tackled) but would only work if you couldnt score direct from an offensive mark.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1351 - 24/08/2018 14:42:44    2136317

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Not a major thing but I like the way in ladies football and in rugby that they stop the clock during injuries. Much more professional way of doing it and avoids the head scratchers wondering how 3 minutes got added as injury time and not 6 mins and so on.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 24/08/2018 14:58:35    2136322

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Is there a case for outlawing the handpass completely incl the fistpass
Also not allowing a fisted score?

What about 2 points for a free kicked off the ground, one point for a free from the hands. Would force defenders to reassess

If we are going to persist with the black card then introduce a one game ban for a lad who has been black carded and in a final, the black card having a yellow automatically attached to it. Might stop the fella taking a black card for the sake of stopping an opponent

Reduce numbers to 13 aside makes all sorts of sense

Introducing a GAA form of offside, but in reverse ie no more than a certain amt of players from both sides in either half at any one time. Obviously this would mean extra officials, it may even need an official all to itself for just that rule, but look, these are only thoughts.

Ok i was being a little facetous earlier re Jim McG and Mickey H, but I do honestly think football is destroyed, ruined. I incl Dubs in that. The game is a total bore now, and SOMETHING has to be done

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/08/2018 15:00:00    2136323

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Any limiting of hand passes is crazy talk and takes away from attacking teams.

Hand passing is the best weapon a team has against a blanket defence.

Hand passing isn't a problem. There is no need to limit hand passing, it's currently the only way to attack a blanket defence and some of you want to take it away. Crazy stuff.

To those supporting limiting hand passes, do you want to see more blanket defence?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 24/08/2018 15:55:51    2136340

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1/ only 1 pass back to goalkeeper inside the 20
2/ ref/ hooter to signal final play a bit like in rugby and play must finish with a shot so no benefit from playing down the clock.

Limit on hand passes and numbers in each half worth trying.
13 a side would work.

The pick up is a skill unique to our game and I wouldn't like to see it gone.
The tackle issue needs addressing but it's the swarm tackle I'd like to see go.
Re kick outs beyond the 45, surely the forwards would drop into the middle 3rd or just line up along the 45. Short kick outs give a tactical dimension to the game imo

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 24/08/2018 15:58:23    2136341

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Any limiting of hand passes is crazy talk and takes away from attacking teams.

Hand passing is the best weapon a team has against a blanket defence.

Hand passing isn't a problem. There is no need to limit hand passing, it's currently the only way to attack a blanket defence and some of you want to take it away. Crazy stuff.

To those supporting limiting hand passes, do you want to see more blanket defence?"
i hate it Mes.
I know i am in a minority of one when I say this and I know you and the other Dubs here will throw your eye's to heaven at this but in my humble opinion when I see Ciaran KK take possession 20 yards from an opponents goal, turn, run 20 yards backwards and handpass to a fella on the halfway line, a little bit of me dies
He did it a few times up in Omagh and it was so dispiriting
I dunno, i have fallen out of of love with football completely Mes
i hate what it has become. The game, for me, is dying and possibly already dead

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 24/08/2018 16:15:31    2136345

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