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Is it really necessary to thank individually every member of the back room speeches? Could a captain not thank "the entire back room team". I don't think the water boy or the hurl carrier needs a special thank you from the steps of the Hogan stand. It has made speeches tedious. Bring back "whipping boys", "people of Galway we love you", "Wexford have been described as the bridesmaids of hurling, well today we got married", or all those famous speeches made even more famous by YouTube. Agree/disagree? StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 21/08/2018 13:47:03 2135260 Link
In 2016 Brendan Maher mentioned everyone apart from the manager Mick Ryan!!! Lets just say he was dropped as captain the following year!!! WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 21/08/2018 15:19:25 2135313 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Is it really necessary to thank individually every member of the back room speeches? Could a captain not thank "the entire back room team". I don't think the water boy or the hurl carrier needs a special thank you from the steps of the Hogan stand. It has made speeches tedious. Bring back "whipping boys", "people of Galway we love you", "Wexford have been described as the bridesmaids of hurling, well today we got married", or all those famous speeches made even more famous by YouTube. Agree/disagree?" It might be boring to listen but that is absolutely how the team captain feels. You won't win an All-Ireland without 36 players and about 20 backroom staff pulling together. The preparation that goes into elite sport now is phenomenal and it is nice that he acknowledged all the unsung heroes who laboured away in the background all year. Maybe it being boring is a sign of the level-headedness and methodical approach of Kiely that he is imparted to his teams. A team's style should mirror the style and qualities of the manager. Liam Griffin is a hugely passionate man and that Wexford team had so many near misses that they were bursting at the seams with joy in 1996. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/08/2018 15:57:51 2135329 Link
Stephen Cluxton has to be the most fr.stone person ever when it comes to speeches. Boring, boring, boring ... BUT long may that boringness continue, while he is putting people asleep doing speeches it means we're winning things. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 21/08/2018 16:15:28 2135335 Link
In fairness that one did go on for a long time on Sunday - he could have said all their names in one go rather than editorialising their roles to the nth degree. Wouldn't want to listen to it twice - however there's a few over the years I could listen to over and over. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 21/08/2018 16:16:49 2135336 Link
In fairness though I'm sure those people mentioned hugely appreciate not being left out as so many of them put in a massive commitment behind the scenes yet seldom get recognition. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 21/08/2018 16:32:11 2135341 Link
It's understandable that a captain wants to name everyone that was involved. What makes the speeches so long is the round of applause after each name. If all the applause could be left until the end it would greatly shorten the speeches. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 21/08/2018 16:43:22 2135348 Link
Replying To midlands: "It's understandable that a captain wants to name everyone that was involved. What makes the speeches so long is the round of applause after each name. If all the applause could be left until the end it would greatly shorten the speeches." You could just do away with the speeches and thank everyone individually when you get back into the changing room!! The speeches for me should go. Absolutely pointless exercise. Unfortunately, the dinosaurs on the GAA and a lot of its fans are still living in the 50s. The game has moved on. Certain things need to be accepted and certain things need to be gotten rid of For example. Things that need to go - speeches. No need for them - anthem before every game - keep it for a final be there provincial or all Ireland - pitch invasions - thankfully none at cp anymore, but need to go everywhere, a fans place is in the stand And something that needs to be accepted - the game evolves .. it's evolved and changing rules just cause you don't like something is ridiculous. E.g. People wanting a hand pass rule waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 21/08/2018 16:52:33 2135353 Link
Replying To waynoI: "You could just do away with the speeches and thank everyone individually when you get back into the changing room!! The speeches for me should go. Absolutely pointless exercise. Unfortunately, the dinosaurs on the GAA and a lot of its fans are still living in the 50s. The game has moved on. Certain things need to be accepted and certain things need to be gotten rid of For example. Things that need to go - speeches. No need for them - anthem before every game - keep it for a final be there provincial or all Ireland - pitch invasions - thankfully none at cp anymore, but need to go everywhere, a fans place is in the stand And something that needs to be accepted - the game evolves .. it's evolved and changing rules just cause you don't like something is ridiculous. E.g. People wanting a hand pass rule" Game moves on has become the cliche for I don't like it therefore it has no relevance, when players start talking about doing away with speeches I will listen and take heed , biggest cheer on the day goes to the captain lifting the trophy second biggest to the coach third biggest to the fans themselves because tmamy love themselves, on the muddy pig ugly nights and mornings the backroom staff are there with the team , I've heard of players crying with a Physio after a big win for being nursed back from serious injury and if for five minutes the captain wants to thank them it's a small price to pay , there are good speeches and instantly forgettable speeches , what's the harm Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/08/2018 17:10:17 2135359 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Game moves on has become the cliche for I don't like it therefore it has no relevance, when players start talking about doing away with speeches I will listen and take heed , biggest cheer on the day goes to the captain lifting the trophy second biggest to the coach third biggest to the fans themselves because tmamy love themselves, on the muddy pig ugly nights and mornings the backroom staff are there with the team , I've heard of players crying with a Physio after a big win for being nursed back from serious injury and if for five minutes the captain wants to thank them it's a small price to pay , there are good speeches and instantly forgettable speeches , what's the harm" Each to their own damo but you can cry with the physio and thank them face to face, very few other sports do speeches after winning things and I'm sure other athletes go through a lot of turmoil recovery from injury too. I agree that the players are the most important people though and I also accept that they are likely here to stay, I just don't have a gra for them just an opinion though. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 21/08/2018 17:15:16 2135360 Link
Replying To waynoI: "Each to their own damo but you can cry with the physio and thank them face to face, very few other sports do speeches after winning things and I'm sure other athletes go through a lot of turmoil recovery from injury too. I agree that the players are the most important people though and I also accept that they are likely here to stay, I just don't have a gra for them just an opinion though." I can't say I love them personally, but Bryan Cullen's will stay with me for the rest of my life , not that he gave James Joyce a run for his money or anything like that , just the sheer emotion of the day I ate every word up , I'm pretty certain limerick fans would feel the same , Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/08/2018 17:28:29 2135365 Link
https://youtu.be/0NM_nKejomA GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 21/08/2018 22:14:09 2135473 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "https://youtu.be/0NM_nKejomA" Good one but still think the Galway one is best where the guy sang the West's Awake. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 22/08/2018 08:35:06 2135513 Link
Replying To midlands: "It's understandable that a captain wants to name everyone that was involved. What makes the speeches so long is the round of applause after each name. If all the applause could be left until the end it would greatly shorten the speeches." I feel though the rounds of applause give the speech giver seconds to gather their thoughts and not forget anyone. I also feel the people mentioned are worthy of their mentions, their involvement will do their families and friends as proud as any players and they want their name mentioned. It's only a few minutes lads and ye don't even have to watch it.. Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 22/08/2018 11:13:18 2135546 Link
Just wait for the speech from The Mayo Captain next year culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 22/08/2018 11:57:12 2135563 Link
it was like fr teds golden cleric award on sunday! perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 22/08/2018 11:58:32 2135566 Link
The playing Captain has enough on his mind and will no doubt have put in a big performance and is most likely exhausted. Could this added burden not be removed? Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 22/08/2018 12:06:27 2135569 Link
I did think the Limerick Captain's was a particularly bad example of the victor's speech. Having won their first All-Ireland in 45 years it was amazing to see some Limerick people in the crowd as the camera panned to them looking bored and restless. I thought it killed the atmosphere completely and felt more like the finish of a dinner dance or something. A quick thank you to the backroom staff and coaches and a hip hip for the losers should be enough. Then do a lap of honour. Come back Joe Connolly all is forgiven. bluemoon (Monaghan) - Posts: 105 - 22/08/2018 13:29:47 2135593 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "The playing Captain has enough on his mind and will no doubt have put in a big performance and is most likely exhausted. Could this added burden not be removed?" Where the evidence it's a burden? Watch back look at the players and tell me it's a burden , anecdotel evidence from explayers would suggest completely the opposite, the only burden there is the losing players having to squirm through it , I would say as captain of your county to get a chance to speak to players family coaches , fans ,county board , fans abroad it's not a burden but an honour , but that's just me Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 22/08/2018 14:10:18 2135610 Link
It wasn't the greatest of speeches on Sunday but if we take the platform away, we wont get any more great speeches in the future. We need to retain as much tradition as possible on All-Ireland Final day. On one hand we've lost the pitch invasions, and now people want away with the speeches? Are we just trying to make it like every other major sporting final in the world? Zzzzz! People are going on like its a waste of time and they have somewhere else to be, if you don't want to listen, leave/switch off! I don't remember anybody complaining last year with David Burkes last year.... "I can't let the day pass - 29 years ago, this man got Man of the Match in an All-Ireland final in 1988. It would be remiss of me not to mention his name: the great Tony Keady. To Tony's wife Margaret, children Shannon, Anthony, Jake and Harry, we hope that lifting the cup today will give you some solace from your grief, if only for a few seconds." "One other person that I can't let today go without mentioning: he was soldiering with us for years, a good friend of mine, a first cousin of Conor Whelan; he passed away in 2014 - Niall Donoghue. We'll never forget him. We remember him today. We'll give a small shout out to Pieta House who are doing great work for people who are in depression and hopefully, they'll help many more." That speech will live long in the memory. What a great and fitting way to honour two Galway hurlers who passed away while bringing the super important issue of mental health and depression to a stage witnessed by millions. Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 22/08/2018 15:49:29 2135639 Link