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Tyrone Boycott Of RTE

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Replying To TearsIn85:  "Thanks for the additional info, Curlew66. I've had a listen to the sketch and it is truly in bad taste, and if the 'apology' was as ill-judged as you state, that's another nail in the coffin.

However, further digging today reveals that MH had embarked on his boycott of the broadcaster BEFORE the transmission of the sketch;

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-brian-carthy-and-that-fourpage-letter-to-rte-26741449.html

The sketch was broadcast on the 9th of June - MH embarked on his campaign refusing to speak to RTE *before* that date (and from the above article seemed to be seeking support from others in this campaign as well).

There appears to be a degree of revisionism at play here.

Of course, the sketch and faux apology might be enough to cause or cement the attitude and boycott, but it cannot be denied that the root cause was a petty and sordid attempt to interfere in the workings of a broadcaster for the benefit of an aquaintance (nothing new there when it comes to RTE, you might say!!). The sketch came later and undoubtably made matters (much) worse, but it's clear to me that events commenced when MH followed through on the veiled threats of un co-operation contained in what can only be considered an ill-judged letter.

Nothwithstanding the above, I would still have a large degree of sympathy for him. It's a pity that an entire generation of players is denied the kind of exposure they deserve but I can see how it can work to Tyrones advantage as well and they have done their talking on the pitch so what does it really matter in the end?

(I've had the pleasure of meeting Mickey professionally on a couple of occasions and was privlidged to see him analyse game tactics. He's an insightful and knowledgable student of the game and it's everyones loss not to have access to his analysis. Maybe he'll show up on $ky when his Tyrone days are done - might be worth subscribing then!)"
Very interesting post. I have not seen the article you refer to, yet

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 21/08/2018 23:44:41    2135494

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I hope Sean Cavanagh enjoys spending his 30 pieces of silver, if he and the other Tyrone ex players had anything about them they'd have stayed a mile clear of Rte, suppose the lure of the bright lights and the few euros was too much to resist for them. Fair play to Mickey Harte."
It's very poor taste to personalise a comment like that.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 21/08/2018 23:54:49    2135496

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Replying To arock:  "This goes all the way back to the worst piece of RTE crap in history when "RTE's John Murray show in August 2011, mocked him for going to see the Dalai Lama and then included the song Pretty Little Girl from Omagh. This came just months after his daughter Michaela had been murdered on honeymoon in Mauritius." Leave Harte alone, he is entitled to throw all the anger he can muster at RTE, just give him a break."
Good post but the morons will differ. We pay the licence and are subjected to rubbish-so much for the national broadcaster. MH owes RTE nothing.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 22/08/2018 00:39:16    2135503

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God we really are an opinionated shower on these forums crying about respect but no respect for people's own decisions. No keyboard warrior on here really knows what goes on in the Tyrone camp. The Tyrone camp have possibly came together and made a collective decision not to involve RTE; fair enough and end of story. In reality no inter county player owe RTE or the media anything. Rte have diddly squat to do with the long hard nights and hours of sacrifice players and the surrounding team put in at the cost of spending time with their families and sacrifices in life they make. The players have got the reward of partaking in an all Ireland final and are one step away from their goal of achieving a Celtic cross; in all this they owe RTE nothing and if the camp do not wish to give RTE their time for the commercial aid of broadcasting a few mundane interviews and snips from the team hotel in All Ireland night so be it. People on here lauding around the word respect should have a think to themselves and RESPECT the decision Tyrone have made. I trust the Tyrone team have removed themselves from all this nonsense and are fully focused on the task ahead and will give one hell of an all out die in their boots performance which is all that really should matter. Any true Gael in Ireland would love to see full hearted battle for 70+ mins in croker and May the best team win; at the end of the day it's ultimately about the match; that's what the true excitement is about, good luck to both teams; Tyrone Abu

hithimhard (Tyrone) - Posts: 20 - 22/08/2018 08:25:39    2135512

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A useful article that should hopefully bring closure to this.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/08/2018 11:40:59    2135554

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Replying To neverright:  "It's very poor taste to personalise a comment like that."
You can see Mickey Hartes point back then after his daughters death it was in very poor taste by John Murray but you cannot put a blanket over all off RTE GAA is an entertainment business as well as Sport and people enjoy watching their local heroes being interviewed on RTE.

RTE in my opinion give great coverage and the Panel such as Sean Cavanagh adds hugely to a big game so surely Mickey can do his own thing and not talk to anyone but that ban should not apply to Tyrone panel IMO

Sports journalists have a job to do as well and make a living.

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 891 - 22/08/2018 11:50:59    2135558

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Who cares about rte sky will do the after match interviews and if Tyrone win they can interview all the ex player mercenaries outside the hotel. Who can slowly take the knives out of mikeys back while picking up a paycheck

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 22/08/2018 11:56:04    2135559

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Replying To brendtheredhand:  "link

A useful article that should hopefully bring closure to this."
Excellent read.

I just hope RoyalDunne reads this with an open mind and sees where most people on here are coming from.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 22/08/2018 12:51:39    2135582

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Could Francis negotiate between RTE and a Tyrone delegation, make his trip a bit more worthwhile

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 22/08/2018 21:10:46    2135732

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You have to spare a thought for RD in all this. He really believed that Meath would be playing in next week's final, that was his prediction when Andy Mc came in. He must be a broken man that his biggest hate Tyrone put an end to that pipe dream. But maybe putting a dart board of the Tyrone panel up on the wall would be better than starting a thread like this. The issue is a lot more serious than sport. Try to see that through the eyes of those it really impacts.

Or maybe try to arrange for Michael Darragh McAuley to come in and convince the Meath players that Andy Mc is a better manager than Jim Gavin :)

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 23/08/2018 08:40:36    2135814

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "
Replying To brendtheredhand:  "link

A useful article that should hopefully bring closure to this."
Excellent read.

I just hope RoyalDunne reads this with an open mind and sees where most people on here are coming from."
Listen to me for a second. It's grandstanding for the sake of it this long on. You and I both know that should mh go after this year rte will have full access to Tyrone next year. Look at Sean cavanagh. My point is that it's getting silly now, where as in the beginning it was absolutely right and a stance I supported. Just it's gone on too long now. What would resolve it for harte? If nothing then so be it. But you and I both know Tyrone will be doing interviews etc with rte as soon as harte is gone.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/08/2018 09:07:29    2135820

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Time for Tyrone to move on. While Micky Harte had a good reason for the initial stance following an insensitive comment by an RTE presenter, I read that the presenter subsequently apologised to Micky Harte.

If Tyrone win the All Ireland on Sunday week, there will be no interview with the winning manager and his players, and possible man of the match award at the winner's banquet.

I hope that in future, maybe even on All Ireland Final day, we will see interviews with Tyrone management and players, before and after intercounty games. It serves no purpose at this stage.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1745 - 23/08/2018 10:56:37    2135856

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Time for Tyrone to move on. While Micky Harte had a good reason for the initial stance following an insensitive comment by an RTE presenter, I read that the presenter subsequently apologised to Micky Harte.

If Tyrone win the All Ireland on Sunday week, there will be no interview with the winning manager and his players, and possible man of the match award at the winner's banquet.

I hope that in future, maybe even on All Ireland Final day, we will see interviews with Tyrone management and players, before and after intercounty games. It serves no purpose at this stage."
If Tyrone win sky will have interviews with anyone they want from Tyrone. If offaly ever become an interest to rte and they get treated the same way as Tyrone and Mikey harte has been then I'm sure you will change your tune . Your not called biffo's for no reason . Until then I hope Tyrone stick with it.

Amatuer sports people do not deserve any stick when rte are making money off these boys backs

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 23/08/2018 11:34:32    2135875

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Time for Tyrone to move on. While Micky Harte had a good reason for the initial stance following an insensitive comment by an RTE presenter, I read that the presenter subsequently apologised to Micky Harte.

If Tyrone win the All Ireland on Sunday week, there will be no interview with the winning manager and his players, and possible man of the match award at the winner's banquet.

I hope that in future, maybe even on All Ireland Final day, we will see interviews with Tyrone management and players, before and after intercounty games. It serves no purpose at this stage."
Sure RTE could post the award up if its a Tyrone MOTM, that is if they can find us on one of their maps!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 23/08/2018 11:58:59    2135893

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Fair play to royaldunne and thelongridge for agreeing with MH at the beginning (2011). The toxicity from TSG panel hasn't helped matters , the new RTE head of sports has expressed his disapproval of pundits 'personal attack' on amateur players. Important that ex Tyrone players make a contribution in the media to restore some balance.
I'm loyal to RTE and find their hurling coverage to be very good with enthusiastic panelist who have played/managed at the highest level. Few if any of the football panel have ever managed a football panel and all seem to write for papers to set agenda and stir things up. In fairness i think the panel has become more measured and fairer in the past few years, probably since Sky coverage began. At the same time these are good decent people who tend to lose the run of themselves when it comes to analysis. Have met and admire some of them for other work e.g. Brolly (organ donation), Spillane (rural development), O'Rourke (education etc) .. at the end of the day its only a game so lets look forward to a satisfactory conclusion for all.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 23/08/2018 12:27:36    2135905

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Replying To ulsterrules:  "If Tyrone win sky will have interviews with anyone they want from Tyrone. If offaly ever become an interest to rte and they get treated the same way as Tyrone and Mikey harte has been then I'm sure you will change your tune . Your not called biffo's for no reason . Until then I hope Tyrone stick with it.

Amatuer sports people do not deserve any stick when rte are making money off these boys backs"
Terrible personal attack on someone for their opinion, btw last time I checked Offaly have he'll lot more all ire than donegal, btw Murphy wouldn't be fit to lace Matt connors boots.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/08/2018 13:01:37    2135916

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Replying To Curlew66:  "Fair play to royaldunne and thelongridge for agreeing with MH at the beginning (2011). The toxicity from TSG panel hasn't helped matters , the new RTE head of sports has expressed his disapproval of pundits 'personal attack' on amateur players. Important that ex Tyrone players make a contribution in the media to restore some balance.
I'm loyal to RTE and find their hurling coverage to be very good with enthusiastic panelist who have played/managed at the highest level. Few if any of the football panel have ever managed a football panel and all seem to write for papers to set agenda and stir things up. In fairness i think the panel has become more measured and fairer in the past few years, probably since Sky coverage began. At the same time these are good decent people who tend to lose the run of themselves when it comes to analysis. Have met and admire some of them for other work e.g. Brolly (organ donation), Spillane (rural development), O'Rourke (education etc) .. at the end of the day its only a game so lets look forward to a satisfactory conclusion for all."
Few if any of the football panel have ever managed a senior county team ... musn't post in haste.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 23/08/2018 13:15:58    2135920

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best way to stop this mess, rte to quit showing tyrone games live, including the all ireland final.
that would really hit them a kick home to a lot of folk who are fed up with the whole thing

lasttoknow (Tyrone) - Posts: 99 - 23/08/2018 14:06:22    2135943

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Why do people care whether a team or a player talks to rte anyway?

What's the big deal?

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1349 - 23/08/2018 14:10:22    2135947

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It is hard to understand them anyway unless RTE used subtitles

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 223 - 23/08/2018 14:23:41    2135957

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