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Kevin McStay Incident With Linesman

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Kevin should be banned. Simple as that. He was far more angry and aggressive than Diarmuid was and he followed it all up with a ball smack to the head.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/07/2018 01:21:57    2125527

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Replying To Lifford Gael:  "Was Andy Moran ever sanctioned for pushing the referee in the Mayo v (was it Roscommon?) League game last year"
It was league game this year when Andy got away with it. Same player got away with given fans the fingers last year when i have seen others in the past sent off for it. Different rules for different people it seems

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 24/07/2018 09:28:34    2125557

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If McStay gets a ban he will take it and accept it, if I were a Rossie I'd be more happy that he has so much passion for this team, plenty of managers manage teams but show no passion, who do fans want on the side line robots or people like Davy Fitz, Derek McGrath etc. If I see a manager acting with as much passion as the fans are showing then to me he is a person that cares about his team and can get players fired up for a match

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 24/07/2018 11:08:20    2125588

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Passion wins very little either on the field of play or on the side line. The best managers are able to keep their cool and focus on the job in hand. Jumping up and down on the side line at a Refs decision makes for good entertainment for the opposition.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 24/07/2018 11:24:46    2125595

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Replying To riverboys:  "If McStay gets a ban he will take it and accept it, if I were a Rossie I'd be more happy that he has so much passion for this team, plenty of managers manage teams but show no passion, who do fans want on the side line robots or people like Davy Fitz, Derek McGrath etc. If I see a manager acting with as much passion as the fans are showing then to me he is a person that cares about his team and can get players fired up for a match"
Passion does not equate to abuse of officials.

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 24/07/2018 11:30:44    2125601

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Kevin should be banned. Simple as that. He was far more angry and aggressive than Diarmuid was and he followed it all up with a ball smack to the head."
Great throw all the same.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 24/07/2018 11:36:40    2125602

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So a 12 week ban so it is so it is.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 24/07/2018 15:18:14    2125752

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3 months he got.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 24/07/2018 15:23:45    2125753

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3 months and rightly so.

I'm glad to see some consistency (or a version of it at least).

McStay can have no complaints although judging by his comments afterwards he may have.

He made a fool of himself.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 24/07/2018 15:45:52    2125772

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well deserved ban..hitting him with the ball alone even ignoring the other stuff looked terrible

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 24/07/2018 15:58:43    2125776

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"Ahhhnooooo"

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/07/2018 16:01:49    2125778

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Kevin McGone

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/07/2018 16:14:15    2125782

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Replying To MillerX:  "Ironic, the linesman involved in the Connolly incident was a certain Mr Brannigan and now he was the "man in the middle" in Hyde Park. Issues seems to follow certain people.
There are three ways this can go now.
1. The referee includes the 'hands on linesman' in his report in which case a suspension is inevitable.
2. The issue is not reported by the referee but the CCCC decide to investigate, as in the Connolly case and a suspension is almost inevitable.
3. The CCCC decide to do nothing, then nothing happens.

If scenario 1 or 2 occur then we enter into the appeal process and this will take up a lot of the autumn and we here on the HS can defend and bash McStay to our hearts content. In reality a suspension will mean nothing as it will at most be 12 weeks and Roscommon will have no game of consequence until 2019. However the anti McStay faction in Roscommon will have a field day."
Should have added another scenario, that he would get 12 weeks and take it on the chin.

Close this thread, witch hunt almost over, now publish the assessment of the referees.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 24/07/2018 16:56:02    2125803

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3 months.
How many games will that involve ?

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 24/07/2018 17:42:00    2125817

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McStay was dead right, some amount of carrying on happening before half time. About time somebody stood up to the paddy powers that be in the game today. He would make a fine NFL quarterback if he tried to smack your man on the head on purpose as well, pin point accuracy

WaitingInTheLongGrass (Roscommon) - Posts: 165 - 26/07/2018 12:07:11    2126361

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Replying To WaitingInTheLongGrass:  "McStay was dead right, some amount of carrying on happening before half time. About time somebody stood up to the paddy powers that be in the game today. He would make a fine NFL quarterback if he tried to smack your man on the head on purpose as well, pin point accuracy"
Go back to the long grass!
Not even Kevin McStay would agree that he was dead right.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 26/07/2018 14:03:56    2126417

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Replying To MesAmis:  "3 months and rightly so.

I'm glad to see some consistency (or a version of it at least).

McStay can have no complaints although judging by his comments afterwards he may have.

He made a fool of himself."
The gaa have been very consistent on incidents of this nature the last few years, just look at the number of suspensions handed out for similar offenses. Andy Moran is the only one where no suspension was handed out where the possibly was one

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 26/07/2018 14:49:58    2126442

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Replying To Westfester:  "Go back to the long grass!
Not even Kevin McStay would agree that he was dead right."
I'm sure he does lad, sure wasn't it a great sight to see a bit of passion in these fabulous 8 games. Brining a bit of life into the mundaneness of it all. Shure what would ya want to see - a ton of deadpan banisteoiri in the dugouts? Wouldn't that be a sight to behold

Twas a foul at end of day that he was pointing out, pity a bit of cop on ruling wasn't observed really, ah well #eastsideisthebestside

WaitingInTheLongGrass (Roscommon) - Posts: 165 - 26/07/2018 16:31:40    2126481

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Ya' know, as soon as the first post appeared here on the Kevin Mc Stay "thing" I said this is going nowhere fast, so, what the hell let it go there.
Keeping in mind I'm not here to defend Kevin Mc Stay,(should he need defending that is) just to say some of the postings here beggars belief, you would think the man did something out of the ordinary, something that makes him different to any one of us, however, he is different to any one of us, in that he is a house hold name for all the right reasons long before last week's so called infamous game, squeaky clean on the field of play all his life, and an out and out gentleman off the field, I'm made aware that he never in his playing career was reprimanded on the field of play, or put off, or suspended, an impeccable record to say the least.
To go from hero to zero is not is not on as far as I'm concerned no matter what the scenario is as what has been outlined, he is however a professional and a passionate gaa man, I wish I had some of his courage and passion.
So lets get real here, there's a huge difference between "passion" and "aggression" Kevin has an abundance of passion, but it's the likes of us here in animosity that has the aggression, apparently.
Kevin McStay has an impecciable playing career, like it or not he is a house hold name, fortunately / unfortunately Kevin's footballing career has been full of passion, am I making an excuse for Kevin's recent misdemeanour, well yes I am, you see Kevin's passion for the game, in this case as Manager of Roscommon senior footballers was much stronger than to show the white flag hankie or whatever you say yourself.
If someone say's his actions were out of order, so too were some of the post's here, before the prosecution sat or the jury delivered it's findings.
The dignified or honourable thing about Kevin is the way he withdrew himself from the game for the second half. No red card needed just self-dismissal, pity some of the posts here were not withdrawn before his sentence was delivered.
Good luck to you Kevin.
No junk mail please.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 27/07/2018 00:20:35    2126597

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McStay, while I have a lot of time for him, had no reason to enter the field of play, let alone act in the manner he did. His previous unblemished record, while note worthy, has no relevance in this instance. He also didn't withdraw himself to allow his "supersub" take his place - he was requested not to patrol the side-line by the match official!!!!

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 27/07/2018 08:27:03    2126627

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