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Kevin McStay Incident With Linesman

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Replying To browncows:  "But the action did merit a card-go back to your rule book again!-one of the points I made was that the lineman needs a visit to spec-savers"
A card for what exactly?

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 23/07/2018 14:21:05    2125223

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Replying To THE_SNAPPER:  "This fella was very critical of the people who jostled with referee Martin Sludden at the end of the 2010 Leinster final between Louth and Meath if my memory serves me right."
McStay was indeed very critical of the lads who jostled Sludden after the full time whistle. The keyword here is jostled as all that happened is that they grabbed his arm and verbally abused him and ended up in court for it. They didn't throw something at his head. Also Ryan Burns got 12 weeks for hitting an umpire (not intentionally IMO) with a ball. He was kicking it back for a goal kick. I would be very annoyed if McStay gets away with this. He'd be the very one on the Sunday game shouting for blood. Let there be blood.

ged (Louth) - Posts: 296 - 23/07/2018 16:49:46    2125307

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He shouldn't have been on the pitch, shouldn't touched a match official, and shouldn't have threw a ball in the direction of the linesman whether he meant to hit him or not.

He hasn't a leg to stand on here and should get a suspension, but a fair one, not something stupid like 6 months or a year.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 23/07/2018 17:08:26    2125314

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I don't want him suspended but is he looking at a year suspension?


On the field of play automatic 3 months

Continual aggression towards the linesman surely that's more than 3 months?


Throwing the ball at the official automatic 3 months


It will be very interesting to see what he gets

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/07/2018 19:54:08    2125377

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Throw the book at him . When he was a pundit he always spoke about discipline and respect. As a manager he showed a complete lack of it . no fan of connolly but mcstay incident was way worse as connolly was in the thick of play while mcstay ran on to the field to get involved. Davy fits was lambasted for entering the field a while back. Also mcstay hit the official with the ball no accident in my book.

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 23/07/2018 20:03:34    2125383

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Can understand his frustration with the officials but cannot condone his actions. However, you have to question why a man who lives on the Fermanagh/Donegal border should be officiating as a linesman at a championship game involving Donegal.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 23/07/2018 20:23:49    2125393

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I don't want him suspended but is he looking at a year suspension?


On the field of play automatic 3 months

Continual aggression towards the linesman surely that's more than 3 months?


Throwing the ball at the official automatic 3 months


It will be very interesting to see what he gets"
Get real.
For a start it was all one incident so any disciplinary committee will not be breaking it down in to different infringements.
Also Kevin McStay's disciplinary record over the last 30 years as player, mentor and manager will be taken into account. Just because you have a chip on your shoulder about how one of "your own" was dealt with, don't be calling for ridiculous sanctions for someone else. No amount of wrongs make a right in any situation.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 23/07/2018 20:29:38    2125396

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What suspension did Brian Coady get for a similar incident. Not justifying the incident but when Coady done it they saod it was as a result of his passion for the game.

reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 23/07/2018 20:43:01    2125402

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Replying To reffingmad:  "What suspension did Brian Coady get for a similar incident. Not justifying the incident but when Coady done it they saod it was as a result of his passion for the game."
he is a mayo man reffingmad, dont forget now...

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1058 - 23/07/2018 20:47:27    2125405

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Replying To Westfester:  "Get real.
For a start it was all one incident so any disciplinary committee will not be breaking it down in to different infringements.
Also Kevin McStay's disciplinary record over the last 30 years as player, mentor and manager will be taken into account. Just because you have a chip on your shoulder about how one of "your own" was dealt with, don't be calling for ridiculous sanctions for someone else. No amount of wrongs make a right in any situation."
Man do you really think I give a rats what a manager of Roscommon gets? I just threw out the question that's all nothing to do with Connolly I'm just interested to see what happens.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/07/2018 21:00:37    2125411

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McStay is a great sportsman and he will take any sanction thrown at him, I was impressed with his ball throwing skills I must say.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 23/07/2018 21:18:23    2125422

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Man do you really think I give a rats what a manager of Roscommon gets? I just threw out the question that's all nothing to do with Connolly I'm just interested to see what happens."
Nothing to do with Connolly??
Just threw out a question??

"All you have to is look at the public reaction to what Andy Moran and now Kevin Mcstay have done to officials and compare it to the reaction Connolly got and you can understand why he's sick of it all. Mcstay was a disgrace yesterday but cause he's a nice guy and let's be honest not a Dub no one cares."

Your quote from another thread. At least be straight about your agenda.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 23/07/2018 21:24:58    2125427

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Deserves a punishment. Mcstay was wrong.
Nothing though for the referee and linesman who were the only two lads in the Hyde who missed the most obvious free in one is ever likely to see in a match.

Would have lost anyway to a good Donegal team but it would have been a big boost right before half time to a team struggling badly. McStay knew as much and completely lost the head.

Poor referees should be dropped no different to player's as they can often be the difference in a tight match.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 23/07/2018 21:26:42    2125429

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Was Andy Moran ever sanctioned for pushing the referee in the Mayo v (was it Roscommon?) League game last year

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 23/07/2018 21:50:37    2125443

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Not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that's there is an anti Dub agenda on here. Didn't young Jayo do a bit of manhandling himself a while back and I can't remember much calling for his head and I always thought he was a Dub. There were plenty calling for our Andys head on a plate after that incident in Castlebar which was just a little gentle remonstration according to Maurice. Diarmuid left himself wide open to sanction by clearly pushing the linesman even though it was harmless enough, but the 12 week ban was still on the harsh side. The ban on the lad with the water bottle was a joke. McStay will get his twelve week ban and deservedly so, as loathe and all as I am to defend officials, if that conduct were to go unpunished their job would become impossible. Not sure what the suggestion of McStay being from Mayo has to do with anything as we have been f***** over too many times in the past for that to make a difference. Although come to think of it that probably means he's rightly screwed!

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 23/07/2018 21:55:26    2125449

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Replying To Westfester:  "Nothing to do with Connolly??
Just threw out a question??

"All you have to is look at the public reaction to what Andy Moran and now Kevin Mcstay have done to officials and compare it to the reaction Connolly got and you can understand why he's sick of it all. Mcstay was a disgrace yesterday but cause he's a nice guy and let's be honest not a Dub no one cares."

Your quote from another thread. At least be straight about your agenda."
Completely different thread about why Connolly is sick of it all.

I just asked what he's looking at with what he did that's it. Now keep going on about what you think my agenda is I don't really care I've told you the truth and that's it.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/07/2018 22:12:00    2125456

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Completely different thread about why Connolly is sick of it all.

I just asked what he's looking at with what he did that's it. Now keep going on about what you think my agenda is I don't really care I've told you the truth and that's it."
No need. Point made.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 944 - 23/07/2018 22:21:25    2125459

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Replying To salvador:  "Deserves a punishment. Mcstay was wrong.
Nothing though for the referee and linesman who were the only two lads in the Hyde who missed the most obvious free in one is ever likely to see in a match.

Would have lost anyway to a good Donegal team but it would have been a big boost right before half time to a team struggling badly. McStay knew as much and completely lost the head.

Poor referees should be dropped no different to player's as they can often be the difference in a tight match."
But a bit of irony isn't it. I recall Roscommon people saying how disrespectful it was for Meath management to give verbal to a rossie ref after a pure biased performance v Tyrone, and now they have same problem over McStay, although Andy never layed a hand on ref and certainly didn't throw a ball at anyone.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/07/2018 22:25:38    2125462

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Completely unacceptable & should receive appropriate sanction.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 23/07/2018 23:17:40    2125497

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The rule is ridiculous it's impossible to have one blacked rule because slearly these incidents are all different and deserve somewhere in a range of punishment.

There should be a minimum game ban, as opposed to weeks, which is a bit of farce, lads can miss the championship while if you boot a ref in the All Ireland final you would be back for the league. Minimum should be three games for player or manager and titrated up on the severity of the incident. Or whatever minimum to make it a deterrent.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 23/07/2018 23:23:44    2125503

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