surely if the rules are applied right he has to get some kind of ban. and after seeing that he threw a ball at the linesman aswell he should get more than a 12 week ban considering what diarmuid got. have to say the ref made a few dubious calls (on both sides) but that kind of a reaction is totally unacceptable.

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 22/07/2018 23:39:19    2124944

I think it is fairly obvious what should happen, man-handling a match official and worse throwing a ball at him - really childish stuff. Will anything happen? we will see he is no Connolly nor ever was, but if a book was ever to be thrown at someone this is surely it.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 23/07/2018 10:50:52    2125039

-- Crucify Him, Crucify Him...

-- No, that would be too good for him, burn him at the stake.....

-- Ok we will compromise, Crucify Him then burn him at the stake?

-- But what about the children?

-- Ok, Crucify, burn at stake, then tie him to a tree and use him as a swing.

-- Excellent.....

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/07/2018 11:04:24    2125055

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/07/2018 11:05:55    2125058

What about the kids?

Isn't that what you's were all so worried about last year ?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 23/07/2018 11:11:40    2125063

Ironic, the linesman involved in the Connolly incident was a certain Mr Brannigan and now he was the "man in the middle" in Hyde Park. Issues seems to follow certain people.
There are three ways this can go now.
1. The referee includes the 'hands on linesman' in his report in which case a suspension is inevitable.
2. The issue is not reported by the referee but the CCCC decide to investigate, as in the Connolly case and a suspension is almost inevitable.
3. The CCCC decide to do nothing, then nothing happens.

If scenario 1 or 2 occur then we enter into the appeal process and this will take up a lot of the autumn and we here on the HS can defend and bash McStay to our hearts content. In reality a suspension will mean nothing as it will at most be 12 weeks and Roscommon will have no game of consequence until 2019. However the anti McStay faction in Roscommon will have a field day.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 23/07/2018 11:16:22    2125068

I really dont want to turn this into a Dublin thing, But IF this was a Dublin player, Hoganstand would be in meltdown with people not being able to get to their smartphones and keyboards quick enough to quote the rule book and how player x y or z should get such n such a ban. We saw the hysteria post Connolly/branagan-gate. At the time of writing this, its about 41 or 42 hours since the incident happened and only now has a thread been set up. The disadvantages of being the big boys i guess.

Look simply put, rules are rules. Connolly broke them, got the ban. McStay most likely will get a ban. The issue is Moran and one or two others didnt. This rule needs to be clarified and then consistently implemented so that incidents like this, when they happen, cant be debated or appealed afterward. Ban is a ban is a ban in these circumstances. No complaints. McStay should have taken charge of his last Roscommon game last saturday evening. end of story.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/07/2018 11:20:21    2125074

The witch-hunt against Connolly was unwarranted for what he actually did, and the 12-weeks was quite over the top. Had McStay's actions been limited to the initial heat-of-the-moment interaction I would have said there was little in it and we should move on; if it was wrong with Connolly then it's wrong with McStay. The part that tips McStay over the edge into punishment territory, for me, is when he starts throwing footballs at the officials. He's had time to cool down at that stage, but has in fact upped his protestations. Regardless of errors an official may or may not have made, it's irresponsible and sends out a very bad message.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 23/07/2018 11:46:27    2125095

Look simply put, rules are rules. Connolly broke them, got the ban. McStay most likely will get a ban. The issue is Moran and one or two others didnt. This rule needs to be clarified and then consistently implemented so that incidents like this, when they happen, cant be debated or appealed afterward.

The very crux of the problem waynoi. There is no consistency at all in how rules are applied at all levels within the GAA from within Counties and their Executives all the way up to National level. Instead of applying rules as set out in the Official Guide it is always a case of who is involved, who they know in what position or how favourably looked on an individual/club/county or whatever is. This however is not something new and not something I ever see as changing to be honest. People will rightly point out the inequalities, the unfairness etc but it will get brushed off and die down until the next incident when it will rev up again for a few days/weeks and so it continues.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 23/07/2018 11:54:43    2125103

Disrespect towards our match officials is a real scourge on the game.

There should be a zero tolerance approach and McStay, like Connolly before him, should be held accountable.

It'll be interesting to see whether or not McStay is dealt with as there seems to be very little furore over this incident as of yet, and as is a well established fact we all know that how the media etc react to these incidents usually dictates whether or not they'll be dealt with.

It is an unfortunate fact but a fact nonetheless that McStay will likely escape sanction because there has been little or no outrage shown about this incident. It's wrong and every incident like this should be punished but we all know the GAA are a complete joke when it comes to disciplinary proceedings.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 23/07/2018 12:02:33    2125110

There should be zero debate, he should be banned.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 23/07/2018 12:17:16    2125122

Didn't a player get 3 months for hitting an umpire with a ball. Madness.
Mc Stay will of course get some sort of a ban which will be ineffective. It's just the mad mad mad mad world of the GAA.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 23/07/2018 12:49:24    2125140

He will get banned and correctly so even though there is the usual amount of silly comments being made. What about the linesman who is also supposed to be Ref- he should be banned, or maybe set him up with a visit to spec savers- how could anyone a few metres away not see such a very obvious foul?. Its unfortunate that some Refs are good at getting the small calls correct and most of the game changing ones incorrect. In fairness to Refs, rules are being added to the game which makes it very difficult for them-not sure what the other 6 officials are do during a match except occasionaly acting to get someone the line.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/07/2018 12:52:02    2125144

Absolutely has to be a ban for McStay. You just can't be putting hands on officials and throwing a football at them afterwards. Given the Connolly thing, there has to be consistency. He should have known much better.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 23/07/2018 12:56:53    2125147

This fella was very critical of the people who jostled with referee Martin Sludden at the end of the 2010 Leinster final between Louth and Meath if my memory serves me right.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 23/07/2018 13:00:38    2125149

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 23/07/2018 13:04:59    2125156

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 23/07/2018 13:13:45    2125163

NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 23/07/2018 13:14:51    2125166

He should be sanctioned.Justice must not only be done but it must be seen to be done.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 23/07/2018 13:22:59    2125177

The ball throw was an absolute peach of a delivery. Pity somebody wouldn't repeat the trick with McQuillan some day!

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 23/07/2018 13:33:13    2125189