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Dublin will beat most teams anywhere, that's not in question at all, Leinster Council have put the fear of god into other counties in the past by saying if they move the Dubs the funding will cave in, I don't believe that and I disagree with O'Rourke, if that's the case we can argue said funding has been disproportionate towards Dublin coaches in recent years. There was just over 40k there last Sunday, that hardly had the Leinster till bursting and I wager the Leinster hurling championship has been more profitable for Leinster Council both last year and so far this year in terms of gate receipts, the GAA thought they were telling Kildare where to play and they got that wrong, I don't believe Leinster Council are getting the financial benefit of Dublin in Croke Park, the football championship in Leinster is now such a non event that the crowds have fallen away, it's from the last 8 on that the Dubs generate the real money not in the Leinster Champiinship. And I don't believe the GAA tell Dublin where to play home league matches, that's Dublin's call and they call Croke Park and pay accordingly as far as I'm aware
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 27/06/2018 22:21:15 2116187 Link 1 |
The "heap of kids running a muck in Croke Park " surely wouldn't be allowed...........wouldn't that be a health and safety issue?? Plus a quarter full stadium with no atmosphere does nothing to promote the game either. The upgrade that is Aughrim, were you advocating your game being played there? As far as Kildare being on the naughty step for a while goes, well we will see but again, we will demand fair treatment in the future and we will be watching for any screw overs. Pretty sad that the largest sporting grassroots organisation in the country is now being labelled as a political organisation, we have enough of those anyone would think. In another post you question where our fans since 98 have gone, well every county, including your own has armchair supporters. I don't see Croke Park sold out for league games, not even the Leinster Final. Where were you all? No war was lost, a huge victory for grassroots everywhere.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 27/06/2018 22:22:36 2116188 Link 1 |
no answer to the question, when is the last time Kildare played a championship match at home? Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 27/06/2018 22:26:47 2116189 Link 1 |
Because Dick Clerkin said last night that it was 1995, which, if true, says that up til now Kildare have had no problem playing their 'home' matches beyond the borders of their own county. This begs the question "Why now?" Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 27/06/2018 22:29:25 2116195 Link 2 |
Why are you asking me? I'm merely responding to remarks that were made complete off topic Ask them. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 22:34:02 2116199 Link 2 |
Dick Clerkin is incorrect. The last time Kildare played in the Championship in Newbridge was in round 3 qualifier in 2013 against Tyrone.
lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2990 - 27/06/2018 23:17:31 2116222 Link 0 |
It's not true at all. We played Tyrone at home in 2013 which was the last time we were drawn to have a home game. So it begs no question at all. KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 27/06/2018 23:23:20 2116224 Link 0 |
You'd think so but I'm genuinely amazed how many hotdogs an under 10 can put away in 75 minutes. ;) I do think it's geuinely sad though that, that can't be accommodated for children, also I'd imagine there will be a few geuine fans that miss out, however Kildare bought the ticket to the raffle and they won, so fair enough. I couldn't have been less bothered if the game was in Aughram or Prot Loaise to be honest, the romantic in me would have said Aughram. I actually brought someone with restricted mobility to the game and I suppose for those fans venue, access, parking etc where real considerations, they were for me in those circumstances. So I do have thoughts for those fans with the uncertainty this week and planning those things, the venue does make a difference in those circumstances and will be a dictating factor I'd imagine for some, hopefully not many. Just my opinion, as I think rules will be clearer and more stringent, will be gains and losses holistically and flexibility will be taken away. Best of luck with that, I genuinely mean it, I don't have an axe to grind with Kildare, but I do believe they may be further then the question for certain things then they were. That's fine, it's like politics is wholly there to serve the people, in its truest for, of course it is, but ultimately it's also a self serving and collective vehicle. Things don't always need to be black and white, generally things can be good and bad. Actions consequences etc. Pick any week in the year, find another fixture were Dublin aren't the highest attendance. I say this not as an insult, but I've been to packed Kildare games, when the sun is shining there are no better supporters, when the chips are down, the numbers are terrible, 10's of thousands. With Kildare population Playing a game in Newbridge should be as ridiculous as putting Dublin in Croke Park, it's a bit sad it's not really. If people put as much energy into going to games as posting online about their right to play at home, there wouldn't be an issue, I'm generalizing I know, obv I'm not talking about the few hundred strong who go to everything so this isn't a personalized comment to you. I'm genuinely not trying to insult here, just arguing points. I have a lot of time, interest and have been involved in Kildare football and have s big personal interest in the game on a Saturday and wish Kildare well. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 27/06/2018 23:42:51 2116234 Link 0 |
As I say? I never said "what about the children" in such a manner. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 23:50:46 2116239 Link 0 |
I'll give a little something for hq to think about. Come October and draw time remember this. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2018 23:55:22 2116241 Link 1 |
You're basing a lot on "As far as I'm aware" The Spring series brings in massive TV rights revenue independent from the NFL Div 1 coverage on TG4 and repeat rights on RTÉ BT won a bidding war for the last Spring series rights package. But whatever you say.. sure that huge money coming directly into central coffers playing live games on a Sat night during prime time has nothing to do with Dublin playing their league games in HQ. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 28/06/2018 00:05:08 2116243 Link 0 |
When Kildare last played at home in Leinster is irrelevant, they have had qualifiers in Newbridge in recent years and this game against Mayo is a qualifier for which they were drawn at home. How many counties have had home matches in Leinster? When have Dublin last had a home match in the Leinster Championship? That's a far more pertinent question that needs answering instead of poking holes in Kildare's argument.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 28/06/2018 02:51:43 2116265 Link 2 |
Because Kildare want to maximize their chances of winning this game!
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 28/06/2018 08:17:53 2116279 Link 0 |
So have Kildare only had one home match in the championship since 1995? That's crazy.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 28/06/2018 11:13:16 2116335 Link 0 |
Kildare haven't been drawn at home for any games since 2013? That's a lot of 50/50s they've lost in a row.
Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 28/06/2018 11:14:24 2116337 Link 0 |
I'm not trying to poke holes in their argument. I support the game going ahead in Newbridge. I'm trying to understand the full picture. "Why now?" is a very pertinent question. Similar to "why have Laois, Carlow and Kilkenny got far better stadia than their far more populous neighbour?" Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 28/06/2018 11:17:48 2116340 Link 2 |
Surely there are thousands of genuine Kildare supporters who attend most of their matches who now CANNOT attend the match on Saturday evening. If that is a victory id hate to experience a loss. The Kildare county board are far from heroes in that they have effectively ignored their supporters (their customets) totally in all of this - apart from the fact that theyve sat on their asses for the past 50 years or more and have failed to provide an acceptable venue for such matches lochgarmanabu (Wexford) - Posts: 1020 - 28/06/2018 12:12:06 2116373 Link 3 |
Have you not been in the country the last few days? The Kildare County Board ignored their supporters??? There hasn't been a cause in a long time which has garnered such support either outside or INSIDE a county!! Makes me laugh at people who try to make out Kildare supporters didn't know what the repercussions for themselves if we won the argument. Of course we knew it was going to be incredibly difficult to get a ticket but the team plays at home and a right was defended. A few people now trying to twist the thing to suit their own agenda just makes them look a bit bitter.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 28/06/2018 13:23:59 2116404 Link 1 |
Surely there are thousands of genuine Kildare supporters who attend most of their matches who now CANNOT attend the match on Saturday evening. If that is a victory id hate to experience a loss. The Kildare county board are far from heroes in that they have effectively ignored their supporters (their customets) totally in all of this - apart from the fact that theyve sat on their asses for the past 50 years or more and have failed to provide an acceptable venue for such matches DundalkGael (Louth) - Posts: 892 - 28/06/2018 14:01:11 2116415 Link 0 |
Are you on medication or something ?
KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 28/06/2018 14:13:26 2116417 Link 0 |