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I don't even know why Donegal have an issue with something that has been fixed for months and voted on. And sure it's the 3rd game that should be moved against either Roscommon/Armagh from Croke Park, with the first game with the 4 Provincial winners still going ahead as scheduled? Are Donegal unhappy with them having to play us in Croker or with Roscommon/Armagh having to play us there? Move the 3rd game and they will be happy, Yeah?? Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 04/07/2018 09:17:23 2118316 Link 0 |
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Which match do Donegal want moved out of Croker So? The third game is the one that should be moved.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 04/07/2018 09:18:58 2118319 Link 2 |
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Isn't that what Donegal are asking for!?? Don't let the misleading headline mislead you. DONEGAL ARE NOT OBJECTING TO PLAYING DUBLIN IN CROKE PARK. They are objecting to Dublin (their main rival in this group - and remember score difference could come into play) getting to play their "home" game in this supposed neutral venue. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 04/07/2018 09:19:09 2118320 Link 0 |
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It was never supposed to be a neutral venue though. It was always gonna be Croke Park is my understanding?
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 04/07/2018 09:26:32 2118324 Link 1 |
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Has anyone read the statement? It says Donegal are seeking clarification as to how a county could have a neutral and home match fixed for Croke Park. But as I said in the other thread I am a little surprised by the amount of noise from ourselves here. Roscommon or Armagh definitely have a case for playing the Dubs in Parnell rather than Croker. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 04/07/2018 09:45:17 2118328 Link 1 |
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Read my post again. Yes, the ulster champions v the Leinster champions was always going to be croke park. Donegal are not disputing this. There are Dublin posters on here pushing that line despite the fact that Donegal are not disputing it. It's a deflection tactic. The game against Armagh or Roscommon should be in parnell park. It's very simple, I don't see how anyone can disagree with Donegal here!? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 04/07/2018 10:15:27 2118338 Link 1 |
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Very well balanced post. I know most Dublin and Donegal fans would travel anywhere for a game. Donegal fans travel in big numbers to Croker and love to play the dubs give us a tough game there in the summer, which you have done on the last few games. The only issue I would have with the game fixed in Croker is the throw in time isn't great for Donegal fans doing a day trip down and back.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 04/07/2018 10:22:14 2118344 Link 0 |
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But then Why are Donegal claiming they have 2 away games when every body does bar Dublin? Am I missing something? I'm not disagreeing with them at all I'm just confused.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 04/07/2018 10:50:33 2118360 Link 2 |
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Are the Donegal county board speaking on behalf of their Roscommon/Armagh counterparts then? I would love it to be Parnell, mind.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 04/07/2018 10:56:27 2118365 Link 0 |
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A neutral venue game isn't an away game, have never seen this claim before the last week or so
joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 217 - 04/07/2018 10:56:46 2118366 Link 0 |
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To be fair to Donegal if Dublin played two games in Croke Park so would another team in the group, Roscommon or Armagh would have two games in Corke Park two. Thats two teams in one group who would be playing twice in the same venue. While two teams have to play in three different venues. I also agree on the throw in time its an utter disgrace should be two and four throw in times. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/07/2018 11:02:18 2118369 Link 1 |
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DONEGAL ARE NOT OBJECTING TO PLAYING DUBLIN IN CROKE PARK. Then why is the headline to the linked article: "Donegal object to playing Dublin in Croke Park"? link Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 04/07/2018 11:11:01 2118371 Link 0 |
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I'm so confused. Ok so Donegal have Dublin in "neutral" Croke Park. Then they have an away game then a home game right? Apart from Dublin, does this not apply to the other teams in the group too? They each play in Croke Park, away and home?
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 04/07/2018 11:12:37 2118373 Link 0 |
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The throw in time is ludicrous. Still not understanding the issue about Donegal having to play away twice however. Must be the heat!!
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 04/07/2018 11:14:05 2118374 Link 0 |
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The difference is playing Roscommon/Armagh in Croke Park and playing Dublin there who play more games in Croke Park per year than any other county in any other ground.
joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 217 - 04/07/2018 11:28:53 2118384 Link 0 |
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The fact that Dublin play all their home league games in Croke Park removes this venue as a neutral one. That's a fact. Dublin should have one home game as well as everyone else, the neutral game for Dublin is not a home game. However they'll still wipe the floor with any team they play so makes little difference really, although Donegal are being a bit petty they will need to improve immensely and without the services of Chesty McBearty they'll struggle home, away or in a neutral venue against a top table team. cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 04/07/2018 11:44:20 2118392 Link 1 |
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The GAA should be building a 40-50,000 capacity stadium in Athlone, central for everyone, good road, rail and even water links! This would solve a lot of venue issues and would comfortably hold any Dublin travelling support for neutral games spiritofeslin (Leitrim) - Posts: 136 - 04/07/2018 11:54:21 2118398 Link 0 |
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100% and I think a lot of Donegal fans are happy to be playing Dublin in Croke Park for the good of our squad too. I think we'll give it a rattle but without Paddy McBrearty we won't pull of the shock. But if we stay within 5 points and have a similar second half as we had in the league then we can build on that for the second match. Agreed on the throw-in time, it's a disgrace again from the CCCC. There are plenty of Donegal people working and living in Dublin but there are a lot of those with families who will probably have to think twice about making the trip for the match now, which is a real pity. Nothing beats seeing a packed Croker against the Dubs with a significant lump of green and yellow trying to spoil the party! Again I am a little confused by the amount of noise from Donegal on this one, this line about 2 away games is a load of nonsense I never see a match in Croke Park as an away match. Likewise I don't see playing Monaghan in Clones on Ulster final day as an "away match". Some of the posts here are getting a bit embarrassing. The Dubs spent years being beaten in Croke Park and there was talk that the big crowd brought too much pressure on them. Now it's a big help to them. Of course when the crowd get behind them it can have a massive impact but likewise if you hit goals at the right time you can quiet down that crowd and that too has an impact, just look at 2014 when we get the 3rd goal. We are at a disadvantage in terms of our home game being last in my opinion but all the provincial winners are in the same boat there. And I do think Roscommon/Armagh would have a case for having their match v Dublin in Parnell but would they want that? I think this has highlighted a wider problem with county boards though. Nobody bats an eyelid til it's your own being impacted. It's about time county boards and the general GAA public started passing motions and using the structures within the GAA to effect real change and communicate what we all want for our sports. It's not good enough to just wait until your own senior men's squad is impacted by something you see as unjust. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 04/07/2018 12:07:00 2118405 Link 3 |
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The GAA's administration and scheduling is an utter farce at this stage. I really think it has reached the point where they should just outsource their games administration to a professional services firm like pwc. pwc are one of their big sponsors so it would make sense. They have proper project management consultants to are used to sitting down, considering all the stakeholders and the ramifications of any decisions made. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 04/07/2018 12:17:19 2118414 Link 1 |
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Going by what Declan Bonner just said it doesn't sound like Donegal are talking about the Dublin v Roscommon/Armagh being moved but rather they don't want their game against Dublin being played in Croker....
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 04/07/2018 12:20:55 2118415 Link 0 |