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Replying To Live_Wire: "Hold on here. Don't you support the county you were born in ????? Dublin parents living and having kids born in any other county should be encouraging kids to follow birth county. I'm not from galway but encourage my boys to follow galway. It's keeps the local and county community together. How maby dubs have branched out into surrounding counties? Dubs should gave more respect....." Both my daughters, 2 and 8, were born in Holles Street, live in Meath and wear Mayo jersies for now because Dad is from Mayo.Let kids decide who they want to support. If the Super 8 takes off and the GAA introduced a tiered championship it's a matter of time until kids from so-called weaker counties start supporting Super 8 counties. That'll be mainly all that's on TV and they'll wear the jersies. It'll be a sade state of intercounty affairs but if it keeps them playing sport rather than stuck in front of a telly or i-Pad I won't complain about them. But I will complain about the neglected weaker counties.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 02/06/2018 10:21:35
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Replying To waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/06/2018 11:08:02
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Both my daughters, 2 and 8, were born in Holles Street, live in Meath and wear Mayo jersies for now because Dad is from Mayo.Let kids decide who they want to support. If the Super 8 takes off and the GAA introduced a tiered championship it's a matter of time until kids from so-called weaker counties start supporting Super 8 counties. That'll be mainly all that's on TV and they'll wear the jersies. It'll be a sade state of intercounty affairs but if it keeps them playing sport rather than stuck in front of a telly or i-Pad I won't complain about them. But I will complain about the neglected weaker counties." I live in South Kildare and there's plenty of Dublin flags up all summer in the different houses and that's fair enough, it's where their heart is. Same I'm sure in Wicklow, Louth or Meath I'm sure. The census will count them in the county's population but they mostly are Dublin focused and not so much in my area but definitely in the north of the county, will go back and play their GAA in Dublin because that's their county. They have little interest in local GAA. But as you said, once they are out playing and not stuck in front of a screen, it's still a good thing.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/06/2018 11:17:13
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Replying To kildare73: " Replying To waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 02/06/2018 12:13:40
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Replying To Live_Wire: "Hold on here. Don't you support the county you were born in ????? Dublin parents living and having kids born in any other county should be encouraging kids to follow birth county. I'm not from galway but encourage my boys to follow galway. It's keeps the local and county community together. How maby dubs have branched out into surrounding counties? Dubs should gave more respect....." I'm keeping out of this part of the debate. Wayno, you and me will keep quite just for this part lol.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/06/2018 12:58:07
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Replying To kildare73: "I live in South Kildare and there's plenty of Dublin flags up all summer in the different houses and that's fair enough, it's where their heart is. Same I'm sure in Wicklow, Louth or Meath I'm sure. The census will count them in the county's population but they mostly are Dublin focused and not so much in my area but definitely in the north of the county, will go back and play their GAA in Dublin because that's their county. They have little interest in local GAA. But as you said, once they are out playing and not stuck in front of a screen, it's still a good thing." Disagree here. First we need to explain to our kids what the gaa is about as regards community and why they should support birth county. If we don't do this and let them 'choose ' a county like in soccer, (which is poisoned now) well we might as well write up an obituary for the gaa now.
Thousands of jacks expanding into the bordering counties and having their kids support dublin. Louth Meath Kildare Wicklow and beyond with a small pick. I mean who do the dubs expect to be playing against in 10 or 20 years time ?
Live_Wire (Monaghan) - Posts: 40 - 02/06/2018 14:29:28
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Replying To GreenandRed: " Replying To kildare73: "[quote=waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/06/2018 14:30:21
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Replying To royaldunne: "Donegal got out of navan with a 1 point win last year. So that would say we at their level. Also we will see what happens with Tyrone. Btw Tyrone also got a bit of a hammering last year if dubs" Meath in my opinion are not at Donegals level , I am well aware of the beating Tyrone got last year from Dublin
but I also feel Tyrone are well ahead of Meath .
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/06/2018 14:48:09
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Replying To kildare73: " Replying To GreenandRed: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
My answer to op question is yes
Live_Wire (Monaghan) - Posts: 40 - 02/06/2018 14:52:05
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Replying To Live_Wire: " Replying To kildare73: "[quote=GreenandRed: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
My answer to op question is yes"]The question is asking is Leinster football dead, not is Leinster football uncompetitive because Dublin are so far ahead of the rest.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 02/06/2018 15:02:29
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Replying To GreenandRed: " Replying To Live_Wire: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=GreenandRed: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
My answer to op question is yes"]The question is asking is Leinster football dead, not is Leinster football uncompetitive because Dublin are so far ahead of the rest."]The voice of reason as always Greenandred. Fair play.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 02/06/2018 18:00:46
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Replying To Jackeen: " Replying To GreenandRed: "[quote=Live_Wire: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=GreenandRed: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
My answer to op question is yes"]The question is asking is Leinster football dead, not is Leinster football uncompetitive because Dublin are so far ahead of the rest."]The voice of reason as always Greenandred. Fair play."]Dubs going to get even stronger. Rest weaker in comparison. So leinster is dying. Sorry about that greenandred.
Live_Wire (Monaghan) - Posts: 40 - 02/06/2018 18:29:29
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Is the leinster hurling championship dead and buried....galway miles ahead of everyone??????...
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Replying To Longfordbaz: "Is the leinster hurling championship dead and buried....galway miles ahead of everyone??????..." No
Live_Wire (Monaghan) - Posts: 40 - 02/06/2018 21:17:04
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Replying To Longfordbaz: "Is the leinster hurling championship dead and buried....galway miles ahead of everyone??????..." No not at all comparable to the leinster football championship.
KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 02/06/2018 23:23:02
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Replying To Live_Wire: " Replying To Jackeen: "[quote=GreenandRed: "[quote=Live_Wire: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=GreenandRed: "[quote=kildare73: "[quote=waynoI: "Your point on Lux, Malta etc is totally irrelevant to my response to you and in turn your response to me. What people in the media and people on fora like these say has nothing to do with
A) The point you made at first RE why players bother when they haven't a chance of winning
or
B) What ex players/pundits say in the media.
Your point and my response was about success and my argument was that if you where to judge success based purely on winning trophies and medals then there will and has been, an awful, awful lot of sportspeople who have ended their sporting careers as failure.
My issue with that is success is relative. What you feel is success is clearly winning, What others feel success could be a number of different things but again as I said in my original response, A Waterford footballer doesn't need all that many brain cells in order to know that, they likely wont win a championship game in their careers, and so they obviously bother for other reasons. cause realistically they will win nothing. Leitrim the same, Louth the same, London the same, Wicklow et al.
If people come on here and think football is dead and buried that's their right to do so, I agree these threads are a pain in the arse and I cant remember seeing a munster football is dead despite kerrys huge dominance .. I can only assume lazy journalism and people jumping on the anti leinster football campaign to suit their anti Dublin, poor *insert leinster county here* agenda.
but that's straying completely off of the point I was making," The point I was making about Lux or Malta or whoever along with the so called weaker GAA counties is that their supporters or the media in general set different bars for success. The recent report that was published on county spending put Kildare at 17th on the list. In the bottom half of the teams in the country. We were slotting in behind Down. Yet you have posters on fora like this telling everyone we are a wealthy county, maybe we are, I don't know, but that money whoever has it, isn't being made available to support GAA. If anything, going on the spending list, we might even be punching above our weight. But the players who put in all that effort and sacrifice still have to put up with being shredded on tv or social media or wherever. It's naive to think it doesn't have an impact on them. Personally I don't judge success on winning medals, never have. But others on places like here will do that for you and threads like this are launched to tell you how much is expected of you and how you are failing. The best team to ever play the game resides in this province, they are hard to get past. Last year Kildare supporters would have said promotion to div 1, a Leinster Final appearance and making the quarter finals would be a successful season. We fell short of the last goal by one game. This year has been awful but everything is cyclical and at some point it will turn. Munster is and always has been a basket case for competitiveness, up to a couple of years ago people were saying the same things being said about Connacht and Tyrone cruised Ulster but then themselves and Monaghan came down to play Dublin in Croke Park and were duly hammered so is Ulster competitive but just at a lower level? There's a lot of people throwing stones in glass houses on here."
My answer to op question is yes"]The question is asking is Leinster football dead, not is Leinster football uncompetitive because Dublin are so far ahead of the rest."]The voice of reason as always Greenandred. Fair play."]Dubs going to get even stronger. Rest weaker in comparison. So leinster is dying. Sorry about that greenandred."]If you are using Dublin getting stronger as your yardstick then there's more provinces than just Leinster dying.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 00:08:41
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yes would have to agree its dead and buried..Meath are currently the second best team leinster and yet they are ranked 13 in the country.
Kildare are next ranked at 16.
Carlow have risen through Leinster mainly because they have got their act together and have been able to pick off a lot of poor teams along the way. Their national ranking is 19 and yet i'd say they will pip laois for a place in the leinster final, where no doubt they will in turn be crushed by dublin.
Everyone tried to hype up kildare's performance in last years Leinster final trying to make out they were highly competitive...they lost by 7 points!!..there is something ill in the province of Leinster!
mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 03/06/2018 13:07:01
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Replying To mayotyroneman: "yes would have to agree its dead and buried..Meath are currently the second best team leinster and yet they are ranked 13 in the country.
Kildare are next ranked at 16.
Carlow have risen through Leinster mainly because they have got their act together and have been able to pick off a lot of poor teams along the way. Their national ranking is 19 and yet i'd say they will pip laois for a place in the leinster final, where no doubt they will in turn be crushed by dublin.
Everyone tried to hype up kildare's performance in last years Leinster final trying to make out they were highly competitive...they lost by 7 points!!..there is something ill in the province of Leinster!" Actually we lost the Leinster Final by 9 points.........shortly after Dublin beat Monaghan by 11 and Tyrone by 14. Yet you guys think you are in rude health!
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 14:25:56
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If Dublin was in Ulster this thread would have a slightly different title.
The wide open ultra competitive Leinster championship, with at least a half dozen teams capable of winning it, would be lauded in a separate threat.
Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 03/06/2018 16:25:05
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Replying To Onion Breath: "If Dublin was in Ulster this thread would have a slightly different title.
The wide open ultra competitive Leinster championship, with at least a half dozen teams capable of winning it, would be lauded in a separate threat." Totally agree.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 17:01:19
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