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The Leinster Council is where to go with this, they arent to happy with Dublin playing any games outside Croke Park, but have made efforts in the past three years to give in to public opinion inside and outside of Dublin. Aughrim would be a great day out. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/05/2018 10:54:22 2100420 Link 0 |
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Is it in Portlaoise just because the season ticket includes free entry to the 1st championship game and Dublin have more season ticket holders than the capacity of Aughrim? Is the explanation as simple as that? Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/05/2018 11:01:14 2100427 Link 0 |
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I'd say so alright. Between football season tickets (Dublin and Wicklow) and Parnell Passes (which guarantees a ticket) there isn't the space in Aughrim I don't think. Could be wrong but I'd imagine that's the issue. It's a pity they couldn't just play in Aughrim in anyways. Maybe give the season ticket holders their free ticket for the next round (Leinster Semi/Qualifier) and give the Parnell Pass holders a free ticket for the next round as well to make up for losing the guarantee for Aughrim. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 14/05/2018 11:16:02 2100445 Link 1 |
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You are right, it appears that only three venues outside of Croke Park being Nowlan Park, O'Moore Park and O'Connor Park are deemed capable of holding a Dublin match, or at least one involving the footballers, which to me is nonsense. If teams like Wicklow, Carlow, Westmeath, Longford can't ever expect to play the Dubs at home in Leinster then you may as well leave them in Croker, I hope that the redeveloped Pairc Tailteann with a 22'000 capacity would be considered appropriate for a future Meath/Dublin match but I wouldn't bank on that either. If season tickets are a factor then it's time to change the rules as fairness and equality to these counties should not be superseded by the importance of season ticket holders bums on seats
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/05/2018 11:37:41 2100460 Link 1 |
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What happens if Dublin end up in the early rounds of the qualifiers (won't happen any time soon), if they were drawn away to Wicklow or Louth in that what would happen with season ticket holders and venues, it's been a good number of years since it happened and Dublin did play away to longford but that couldn't happen now days in Leinster?
tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 14/05/2018 12:54:46 2100516 Link 0 |
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The season ticket is the GAA way of trying to improve league attendances and attendances at early rounds of the championship. The fact its a contract means they have to honour it, if they didn't the complaining from season ticket holders who couldn't attend a game would be equally deafening. Maybe it's time to scrap the entitlement to a championship ticket with one though as this whinging is an annual thing now.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/05/2018 13:21:55 2100538 Link 1 |
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The season ticket is great in my view and I've had one the past three years, mine clearly states that for the Longford match I'm not guaranteed a seat and it's a first come first serve basis. In cases like this I see no reason why season ticket holders in Dublin couldn't apply for a ticket but understand that availability is not always guaranteed due to capacity and if a season ticket holder applies, and fails, to get a ticket to a ground like Aughrim then they get priority for the next game, remember the Dubs didn't sell out Nowlan Park two years ago and fell well short of selling out O'Moore Park last year so it doesn't appear that all these season ticket holders travel in the first place.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/05/2018 13:38:26 2100545 Link 2 |
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I think it might rear its head again in the Super 8's as well mate, whatever about a Leinster first round draw a quarter final is going to draw a huge Dublin crowd, not all county grounds can facilitate that i wouldn't be surprised if we see the Dublin quarterfinal moved to the big provincial ground as opposed to the county ground depending on the opposition. Health and Safety and town infrastructure, traffic etc will all come into play. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/05/2018 13:50:42 2100554 Link 0 |
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Does it say you are not guaranteed a seat or not guaranteed a ticket? I'd have no problem with the rules around season tickets being changed but as long as the current arrangement is in place it seems sensible to pick venues that can accommodate everyone that has bought the right to a ticket. The only other county that must have a similar problem is Mayo, would Leitrim be able host a 1st round game against them I wonder?
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/05/2018 14:06:32 2100562 Link 0 |
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Its the holders choice of the ticket to use it or not. If the holders do or don't get theirs scanned, that's up to them, but the GAA have to give them the opportunity to use it. No guarantee of a seat but if the GAA are going to sell such a product they have to insure that they have the facility to accomodate it. Why would anyone buy a season ticket if there was no guarantee of admission? Isn't that the whole point of a season ticket? keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 14/05/2018 14:13:50 2100566 Link 0 |
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Nothing to do with it being played in Aughrim but whys the match at 4.00, very unusual that it's at 4.00 and there's not even a game on before it WW9 (Wicklow) - Posts: 109 - 14/05/2018 14:19:10 2100568 Link 0 |
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Ive no doubt it will however the Leinster Championship is a different case, the thing is a lot of grounds like Aughrim, Pearse Park, Dr Cullen etc have spent money in recent years upgrading their facilities and other places like St Conleths and Pairc Tailteann are planning big improvements in the near future and their efforts and spending should be acknowledged by fixing of big games, as I said before people love seeing the Dubs come to town in any competition and the Dubs love travelling so it should be a win win situation, we can't develop every ground to a 20'000 plus capacity so it seems an alteration to the season ticket schemes is the only way around this, Dublin v Kilkenny in the hurling was comfortably held in Parnell Park at the weekend and the venue added greatly to the atmosphere and championship feeling, I think it's more of that we need in the provincials and if a round robin ever comes into Leinster football, which is not beyond the realms of possibility at all, then the issue of venues will become even more important. The Wicklow/Offaly game should have also been a home game for one of those counties instead of being lumped into a double header at Portlaoise as should Carlow/Louth although I know Louth have long standing issues with a home venue. Dublin themselves need a venue to call home that could hold 30'000 plus and they deserve that and all the help needed to develop it. I can see the football championship most likely changing format in the not too distant future where home and away fixtures will be the norm, Waterford were caught on the hop with it this year due to years of inactivity in properly developing Walsh Park and that leaves then with a big disadvantage in Munster in that they will have no home games but one could argue that lack of intent by their hierarchy caused that issue, Wicklow have had far far less success and crowds than Waterford yet they went about improving Aughrim with a new stand, it's a pity it won't be full in two weeks time. Come the Super 8's capacity at grounds may be an issue depending on the pairings but for games in Leinster I think allowances for the supposed "weaker counties" should be made to help promote the game and give them a financial boost they rarely get
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/05/2018 14:49:22 2100588 Link 1 |
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Not guaranteed a seat, not that I've always wanted one, on a good day I prefer the terraces and often head there, last year for Meath/Louth match I did arrive early as I wanted a seat as my back was crocked and I arrived early as the email I got said seats were on a first come first serve basis
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/05/2018 14:53:15 2100592 Link 1 |
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Gives the Dubs a chance to get in for 4.20 !!
carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 14/05/2018 15:03:52 2100595 Link 0 |
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tv maybe
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2840 - 14/05/2018 15:31:40 2100611 Link 0 |
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Leitrim are at home in the semi final against Roscommon in Carrick in Shannon which would suggest its open to hold any potential Connacht game
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/05/2018 15:33:12 2100612 Link 1 |
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It holds 15000 which is a good bit more than the total number of season ticket holders in Roscommon and Leitrim I'd imagine. I wonder how many season tickets Mayo have? Probably would still be less than the capacity in Leitrim alright so Dublin, due to smaller grounds in some Leinster counties, are the only ones that present a problem.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/05/2018 15:52:01 2100623 Link 0 |
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I hope to god someone thought of that when they came up with the super 8 concept. Wouldn't surprise in if they didn't, there will be uproar.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 14/05/2018 15:58:42 2100633 Link 0 |
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Very true
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 14/05/2018 16:02:03 2100638 Link 0 |
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Would have thought Wicklow and Carlow should have got home advantage against Dublin and Kildare. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 14/05/2018 16:04:54 2100639 Link 0 |