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Why cant there just be two grades for inter county football.....2 up and 2 down....its all gone beyond a joke....nothing matters until August....

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 11/05/2018 14:52:55    2098970

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Replying To sportsfan14:  "Why cant there just be two grades for inter county football.....2 up and 2 down....its all gone beyond a joke....nothing matters until August...."
Great idea ..

Then we can also do transfers for a certain amount of time, let's say, November and December and call it something like..... A transfer window

We can take down the big tacky poles and just play with goals.

Make the pitch smaller and half duration longer by maybe, 10 mins per half

And segregate the fans and when a team losing comes from behind and wins the winning fans can sing with with glee .. 1-nil and you ....messed.... It up

Where do I sign, you've sold it to me :)

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 12958 - 11/05/2018 17:14:57    2099380

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I think its a good idea, too many mismatches in the current system

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 226 - 11/05/2018 19:41:44    2099729

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The League guys is where it's at. Teams there are in divisions based on their past performances. There is promotion and relegation and it works quite well. The Championship on the other hand is supposed to be a knockout competition where inevitably mis-matches will occur. For some reason the "knockout" competition has become the blue Riband event or the holy grail or whatever you like. Now people want to make this "knockout" competition fairer so poor teams can win it. It is never going to happen and shouldn't happen under the current format. However if it was a true open-draw Knockout competition with no seeding then you would see some excitement

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5086 - 11/05/2018 22:21:32    2099749

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Replying To PyatPree:  "I think its a good idea, too many mismatches in the current system"
There is less of a gap between 10 and 20 then there is 20 and 30 or 1 and 10. Would do nothing to stop mismatches and would only make the strong stronger and the weak weaker.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1149 - 11/05/2018 23:19:20    2099760

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So it would be division 1 & 2 lumped together in Premiership and 3 & 4 the championship realistically.

Im not sure there would be great appetite for that beyond the current structure if im honest and really devalues the NFL as its very similar.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 1834 - 12/05/2018 08:44:01    2099781

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Replying To TheUsername:  "So it would be division 1 & 2 lumped together in Premiership and 3 & 4 the championship realistically.

Im not sure there would be great appetite for that beyond the current structure if im honest and really devalues the NFL as its very similar."
I think he means getting rid of the NFL.

Running a top tier single round robin and bottom tier single round robin.

I've thought of this also as a potential solution.

It makes fixture scheduling much easier for the club game.

I'd finish with a playoff system myself.

Top 6 to playoffs.

I'd have 3 up 3 down.

I'd have 6 teams play off in the second tier.

Finalists plus best ranked losing semi finalist from the league go up.

It would be an easily followed competition. You would still have a lot of mismatchs. You would be providing All Intercounty players with a strong program of games.

Hurling you'd have 3 tiers of 12/11 depending on number of teams participating. 2 up 2 down. 4 teams go to the playoffs in each of those divisions.

You'd play the regular seasons off over a 24 week period with each county getting 3 blocks of games off to play club games in both codes.

The main drawback to it is that there will be a lot of dead rubber fixtures at the back end of the season.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 2129 - 12/05/2018 10:42:16    2099791

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For solidarity, I'd have 2 equal strength Conferences of 16 - say, initially half of each NFL Div assigned to Conference A, with the other 4 halves to Conf B.
Each team plays 12 of 16 teams (avoiding the other 4) in the other Conf - say, Div 1 avoids Div 4 (too one sided) and Divs 2/3 avoids 4 of other Conf Divs 2/3 (reduces match count).
I'd also have Top 6 in a Conf forming one half of the AI Sam KO 12 schedule - A QFs are 1st in A v 4th or 5th and 2nd in A v 3rd or 6th in A.
A QF winners meet in one AI SF, and the 6 B teams play a similar other half of the KO schedule.
AI Final is an AvB Final, in the only repeat matchup (unless otherwise unexpectedly, the Final is non repeat as well).
Similarly, 7th to 14th could form separate halves to a Rd of 16 for the POSe Cup.
Confs reset for following year fixture variety - say, prior year even placed teams switch Confs.
Prov Championships played separately.
Works ?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1356 - 14/05/2018 05:31:51    2100320

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