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Replying To jimbodub: "Stop over reacting" Two posters one with tongue firmly in cheek.. You obviously missed all the posts from southern posters not agreeing with Liam... But sure mission completed for Liam. :) jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2018 11:58:50 2094716 Link
The GAA had no problems with prominent members and the GPA campaigning in the marriage referendum. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 24/04/2018 12:57:17 2094735 Link
Replying To LooseCannon: "It's Gaelic Athletes For Life, And yes, there's been a mass error in reporting standards across the entirety of the Irish media spectrum." Right interesting. Editorial standards must be seriously dropping. It is odd how corrections aren't being sought after and the Independent is still using the incorrect name in an article yesterday. Very strange Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 24/04/2018 13:23:50 2094740 Link
Replying To salvador: "The GAA had no problems with prominent members and the GPA campaigning in the marriage referendum." Yeah but that was just common sense.. Landslide victory.. well in most places jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2018 15:14:59 2094761 Link
Replying To neverright: "I think GAA people are objecting to the use of the title; ' GAA athletes' and the rather devious manner in which they hijacked a club's young players. The fact that they stayed off the club's ground but put on the skills session on vacant ground beside shows how acutely aware they were of what they were doing. I don't see posters castigating anyone for holding or expressing an opinion" Don't agree with you often but I do on this. I shouldn't be probably writing this. But I too will be voting no, for personal reasons (much of you might know I have a v premature baby) so that has made my mind up. Not any religious values , I voted yes to divorce, I voted yes to marriage referendum. But I will vote no in this one. That all been said Mickey and even a man I have huge respect for (joe Sheridan) should not have used the premises they did. Please keep referenda and politics and religion out of sport. In that we are all the same regardless if you vote ff fg lab sf or whoever, look at Meath Tobin (sf td) is a huge Meath supporter , noel Dempsey (former ff minister) is on county board , Andy McEntee (manager) is from a renowned fg family , late brother a former td and his niece is a current one. All pulling together for Meath gaa. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/04/2018 15:53:47 2094778 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Yeah but that was just common sense.. Landslide victory.. well in most places" Lol. I see what you did there. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/04/2018 15:55:57 2094780 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Yeah but that was just common sense.. Landslide victory.. well in most places" Heehee MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13709 - 24/04/2018 16:02:55 2094781 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "If their name is 'Gaelic players for life' why has every media outlet quoted the name of the group as being 'GAA athletes for a no vote'. Has there been a mass error in reporting standards across the entirety of the Irish media spectrum?" The Irish media have a long history of getting things especially in relation to sport. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 24/04/2018 16:10:19 2094784 Link
Replying To salvador: "The GAA had no problems with prominent members and the GPA campaigning in the marriage referendum." The gaa stayed neutral in that. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 24/04/2018 16:12:45 2094785 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Mickey and any other Gaa member can comment and campaign on this issue if they so please. They are not claiming to represent the whole Gaa family,no more than Eamonn mc gee did when he campaigned for a yes vote on the gay marriage issue. It's funny how some people get so angry at certain individuals when they disagree with them on these very sensitive issues. No doubt the people angry at Mickey are against the death penalty also." Did Eamonn attend some events where he was giving skills training to kids while also launching a Yes campaign? Has he done anything of the sort this time around? No. He has always emphasised his own opinions and he's never used Gaoth Dobhair, Donegal, or the wider GAA to further that in any way. Mickey Harte has launched a No campaign (which he is entitled to do) in a way in which confuses people about the GAA's stance. You can't compare the two. I have a lot of issues with Mickey Harte but he is welcome to campaign on this issue, as are all people in Northern Ireland. This vote impacts women north of the border just as much as those in the Republic. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 24/04/2018 16:55:42 2094794 Link
Replying To salvador: "The GAA had no problems with prominent members and the GPA campaigning in the marriage referendum." And what? Ger Brennan was very vocal about voting No in that one. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 24/04/2018 16:56:59 2094795 Link
We have become such a weak nation,bending before every wind that blows. Even in 'pagan' England every cup final begins with a christian hymn.They put us to shame. worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 339 - 24/04/2018 18:00:55 2094805 Link
Replying To worple: "We have become such a weak nation,bending before every wind that blows. Even in 'pagan' England every cup final begins with a christian hymn.They put us to shame." Yeah nothing like being under the thumb of an elite cult to make us strong and bend over to their rules for the best part of 80-90 years Sure it was great laugh wasn't it.. if you ignore the horrific crimes that is. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2018 18:40:00 2094807 Link
Replying To worple: "We have become such a weak nation,bending before every wind that blows. Even in 'pagan' England every cup final begins with a christian hymn.They put us to shame." Well if it helps you can still have the country music Late Late show.. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2018 18:44:41 2094808 Link
Replying To JoeSoap: "Did Eamonn attend some events where he was giving skills training to kids while also launching a Yes campaign? Has he done anything of the sort this time around? No. He has always emphasised his own opinions and he's never used Gaoth Dobhair, Donegal, or the wider GAA to further that in any way. Mickey Harte has launched a No campaign (which he is entitled to do) in a way in which confuses people about the GAA's stance. You can't compare the two. I have a lot of issues with Mickey Harte but he is welcome to campaign on this issue, as are all people in Northern Ireland. This vote impacts women north of the border just as much as those in the Republic." So what's the problem then? As others have pointed out the media are only too willing to report the Gaa association with this anti abortion group so it is clearly the media's desire to ramp up emotions. I find it astounding to be honest that Gaa people are shocked that members of the Gaa are being politically active. Maybe it's the northerner in me,where we have had members killed,imprisoned or die for that very action.Gaa members have been involved in politics since the founding of the organization and to pretend otherwise is complete nonsense. The people complaining about this are people who are in the "yes" camp for the most part and like so called "progressives" everywhere they are outraged that some people disagree with their perfectly sensible point of view that if you don't want the unborn child then you should be entitled to kill the child before it is born. In a few years time the same crowd will be extolling the benefits of euthanizing the old that are ravaged by dementia. But sure it's grand we'll be so modern and hip like all the progressive nations. You'll hardly know if you're in Iceland,on target to completely eradicate Down's syndrome by way of abortion,or Ireland. Won't we have done well for ourselves when that time arrives? seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/04/2018 18:45:06 2094809 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Yeah nothing like being under the thumb of an elite cult to make us strong and bend over to their rules for the best part of 80-90 years Sure it was great laugh wasn't it.. if you ignore the horrific crimes that is." Again here is an example of only one side of the story. Off course very many wrongs were done. But great good was also done and to try to paint all members of religious orders as bad people is completely disgraceful in fairness to them. They educated,clothed and fed many of us all and what's more plenty of you know it but don't like to acknowledge it as it doesn't suit the anti church narrative off recent years. Or maybe most of you on here were lucky and didn't need their help. I know people who did need them,or otherwise they would have had fairly bleak times at Christmases and other times also.If you want to rightfully acknowledge the wrongs done well at least be fair and balanced and acknowledge the decent things done also. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/04/2018 18:55:10 2094810 Link
Separate Church from State No issue what you want to do on a Sunday But in no way should your church be making social policies with its sickening track record jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 24/04/2018 19:47:35 2094818 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "So what's the problem then? As others have pointed out the media are only too willing to report the Gaa association with this anti abortion group so it is clearly the media's desire to ramp up emotions. I find it astounding to be honest that Gaa people are shocked that members of the Gaa are being politically active. Maybe it's the northerner in me,where we have had members killed,imprisoned or die for that very action.Gaa members have been involved in politics since the founding of the organization and to pretend otherwise is complete nonsense. The people complaining about this are people who are in the "yes" camp for the most part and like so called "progressives" everywhere they are outraged that some people disagree with their perfectly sensible point of view that if you don't want the unborn child then you should be entitled to kill the child before it is born. In a few years time the same crowd will be extolling the benefits of euthanizing the old that are ravaged by dementia. But sure it's grand we'll be so modern and hip like all the progressive nations. You'll hardly know if you're in Iceland,on target to completely eradicate Down's syndrome by way of abortion,or Ireland. Won't we have done well for ourselves when that time arrives?" This is not about yes or no. It's about people using the association for a political agenda. I'd encourage everyone to join the debate on this. It's healthy to us as a country making an informed decision on this. I'm not going to state my preference. What I'll say is that my stance on this issue has come full circle within the last 2 years. It's not a simple issue. I hope we get a high turnout and that the country can move forward from this whatever the result. On the media coverage of this, I'm pretty sure this group invited the media to this launch. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 24/04/2018 20:14:44 2094822 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Separate Church from State No issue what you want to do on a Sunday But in no way should your church be making social policies with its sickening track record" I rarely attend church so I wouldn't say it's my church. I'm a lapsed Catholic at best. I do have some faith though for sure and the message from Jesus was good.Again you and those like you are attempting to totally negate the good work of the church and religious orders while choosing to only highlight the wrongs they did. They educated many,fed and clothed many and did many other good deeds in our country's history. That's the facts. The fact I am lapsed probably has something to do with the wrongs committed too so I am fully aware of that side of the story and as it has all unfolded over the last number of years it does not sit well with me personally if Ye wanted to be sure of that. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/04/2018 20:15:53 2094823 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "So what's the problem then? As others have pointed out the media are only too willing to report the Gaa association with this anti abortion group so it is clearly the media's desire to ramp up emotions. I find it astounding to be honest that Gaa people are shocked that members of the Gaa are being politically active. Maybe it's the northerner in me,where we have had members killed,imprisoned or die for that very action.Gaa members have been involved in politics since the founding of the organization and to pretend otherwise is complete nonsense. The people complaining about this are people who are in the "yes" camp for the most part and like so called "progressives" everywhere they are outraged that some people disagree with their perfectly sensible point of view that if you don't want the unborn child then you should be entitled to kill the child before it is born. In a few years time the same crowd will be extolling the benefits of euthanizing the old that are ravaged by dementia. But sure it's grand we'll be so modern and hip like all the progressive nations. You'll hardly know if you're in Iceland,on target to completely eradicate Down's syndrome by way of abortion,or Ireland. Won't we have done well for ourselves when that time arrives?" Nobody on here is saying that GAA members can't be politically active, or can't hold political opinions. What's not ok is for people to use the name of the GAA, or their positions within the GAA, to campaign actively for a political cause. Mickey is doing this in the LoveBoth video, and he's bang out of order for doing so. Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 24/04/2018 20:16:42 2094824 Link