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GAA Athletes For A NO Vote

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Well I'll be voting Yes but completely respect the decision of someone voting No.

If more people vote no or more people vote yes - regardless of the outcome it should be respected.

This is going to get quite nasty before it's all over and even afterwards there will unfortunately be a lot of bitterness

Ireland doesn't do Yes or No very well... as our history has so sadly proven.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/04/2018 17:56:04    2094345

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Well I'll be voting Yes but completely respect the decision of someone voting No.

If more people vote no or more people vote yes - regardless of the outcome it should be respected.

This is going to get quite nasty before it's all over and even afterwards there will unfortunately be a lot of bitterness

Ireland doesn't do Yes or No very well... as our history has so sadly proven."
Normally I would totally agree - a democratic decision should be respected.

But given some of the claims made by the No side, I have to say I'd find it hard to accept a NO outcome if it comes to that. If they were to honestly present the facts of their argument to the general public then fair enough.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 22/04/2018 18:18:54    2094349

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Well I'll be voting Yes but completely respect the decision of someone voting No.

If more people vote no or more people vote yes - regardless of the outcome it should be respected.

This is going to get quite nasty before it's all over and even afterwards there will unfortunately be a lot of bitterness

Ireland doesn't do Yes or No very well... as our history has so sadly proven."
You say you respect those voting no, yet you come on here outraged at those Gaa figures voting No, where you have put up six posts on the issue, stated you are voting Yes & failed to dismiss with the same outrage those Gaa figures that came out this week stating they were supporting the Yes campaign. Rose tinted glasses, you are far from impartial or respectful of others, you have driven one agenda. I believe the GAA should never be politicised but it has been for decades & I am totally against it. Anyone coming on here claiming to be respectful yet expressing the way their going to vote is only driving their agenda.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 22/04/2018 18:22:15    2094353

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Replying To moc.dna:  "You say you respect those voting no, yet you come on here outraged at those Gaa figures voting No, where you have put up six posts on the issue, stated you are voting Yes & failed to dismiss with the same outrage those Gaa figures that came out this week stating they were supporting the Yes campaign. Rose tinted glasses, you are far from impartial or respectful of others, you have driven one agenda. I believe the GAA should never be politicised but it has been for decades & I am totally against it. Anyone coming on here claiming to be respectful yet expressing the way their going to vote is only driving their agenda."
Outraged that they are using the GAA in their no campaign . Not that they are voting no. Completely different . To be fair he did say he respected those who were voting a different way to himself

But I do agree people shouldn't be saying which way they are voting and why on here. Not the place .

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 22/04/2018 18:39:50    2094360

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I'm a GAA player, and I'll be voting no, but the title of this group is wrong and should not be associated with the GAA in any form for either the yes side or the no side.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 22/04/2018 18:51:50    2094364

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There should be no place for politics or religion in the GAA , vote whatever way you want but leave the GAA out of it.

culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 22/04/2018 19:33:34    2094374

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Replying To moc.dna:  "You say you respect those voting no, yet you come on here outraged at those Gaa figures voting No, where you have put up six posts on the issue, stated you are voting Yes & failed to dismiss with the same outrage those Gaa figures that came out this week stating they were supporting the Yes campaign. Rose tinted glasses, you are far from impartial or respectful of others, you have driven one agenda. I believe the GAA should never be politicised but it has been for decades & I am totally against it. Anyone coming on here claiming to be respectful yet expressing the way their going to vote is only driving their agenda."
I did denounce it. I absolute did. Read it.

No way either side should use the GAA to peddle their wears. It's completely wrong to use the GAA in this way.

I'll be honest I wasn't aware of the other side. I condemn the Yes side for the exact same reasons.

Unreservedly condemn the Yes campaign.

Also I actually said both sides have very valid points and deserve to be respected.

Did you actually read my posts ?

You shouldn't use the GAA to peddle your political wears. It's wrong.

Both sides views should without question be respected and if a no vote wins I'll 100% respect it as the wish of the Irish people. I'll get on with my life because it doesn't really impact directly on me.. now Irish women though.. that's a different matter. It very much impacts them.

I was honest, I didn't have to say how I was voting and sit on the fence. I have my own reasons for voting yes but can absolutely see and respect the reasons why people would want to vote no.

Now it's down to how many vote Yes or vote no..

Ill be voting Yes. I've thought about it and that's my decision.

I would respect anyone else doing the same thing on either side.

I just hope it doesn't get nasty.

Please read my posts before directly attacking me in the future.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/04/2018 20:01:36    2094377

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Replying To culmore:  "There should be no place for politics or religion in the GAA , vote whatever way you want but leave the GAA out of it."
Completely agree

Unfortunately though you're going to have a situation where respect goes out the window regardless of which way the vote goes.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/04/2018 20:05:02    2094378

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Micky Harte has every right to his opinion and every right to state it publicly if he so wishes.

However I disagree with his, and others, use of the GAA to promote their agenda.

If others on the Yes side have done or do similar I would condemn them also.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 22/04/2018 20:24:44    2094383

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Replying To moc.dna:  "You say you respect those voting no, yet you come on here outraged at those Gaa figures voting No, where you have put up six posts on the issue, stated you are voting Yes & failed to dismiss with the same outrage those Gaa figures that came out this week stating they were supporting the Yes campaign. Rose tinted glasses, you are far from impartial or respectful of others, you have driven one agenda. I believe the GAA should never be politicised but it has been for decades & I am totally against it. Anyone coming on here claiming to be respectful yet expressing the way their going to vote is only driving their agenda."
You really couldn't have got that more wrong. What I truly said is in black and white.

I'm voting yes for my own reasons

If people vote No for their own reasons

I 100% respect that

People shouldn't be afraid to express their democratic wish. It's about respecting another persons opinions. I gave mine. It's up to others how they want to take it.

Yes/No.. it should be respected but using an institution that encompasses all backgrounds and opinions to peddle one agenda is wrong and I'm glad to see the GAA taking early action on this.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/04/2018 20:37:18    2094384

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Micky Harte has every right to his opinion and every right to state it publicly if he so wishes.

However I disagree with his, and others, use of the GAA to promote their agenda.

If others on the Yes side have done or do similar I would condemn them also."
Absolutely. He has every right to state as much publicly without fear of backlash. His views should be respected and I'd applaud him for his honestly.

However using the GAA in order to do it.. absolutely not.

Regardless of stance.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/04/2018 20:52:12    2094388

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MH should keep his opinion to himself or if he wants to voice it he should do it through other means like joining a political party and not using the gaa.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 22/04/2018 21:35:58    2094395

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Yep

It's going to get nasty

greenflag2000 (Kildare) - Posts: 11 - 22/04/2018 21:46:18    2094398

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I did denounce it. I absolute did. Read it.

No way either side should use the GAA to peddle their wears. It's completely wrong to use the GAA in this way.

I'll be honest I wasn't aware of the other side. I condemn the Yes side for the exact same reasons.

Unreservedly condemn the Yes campaign.

Also I actually said both sides have very valid points and deserve to be respected.

Did you actually read my posts ?

You shouldn't use the GAA to peddle your political wears. It's wrong.

Both sides views should without question be respected and if a no vote wins I'll 100% respect it as the wish of the Irish people. I'll get on with my life because it doesn't really impact directly on me.. now Irish women though.. that's a different matter. It very much impacts them.

I was honest, I didn't have to say how I was voting and sit on the fence. I have my own reasons for voting yes but can absolutely see and respect the reasons why people would want to vote no.

Now it's down to how many vote Yes or vote no..

Ill be voting Yes. I've thought about it and that's my decision.

I would respect anyone else doing the same thing on either side.

I just hope it doesn't get nasty.

Please read my posts before directly attacking me in the future."
Attacking you, give us a break. Yes I read your posts, you have now condemned the yes side of the Gaa members who went public so I acknowledge that. I didn't use the Gaa to peddle my wares, I gave no opinion or took any side, in fact I specifically stated that I was against any politicisation of the Gaa & have been very vocal on here on other issues in relation to that. What I highlighted from your posts was you promoting your stance & your number of posts in relation to those who were highlighting the No campaign. A lot of people on here, a Gaa forum advocating one side or the other are no different to the Yes & No Gaa sides who went public, it's hypocritical to condemn those using the Gaa platform for yes/no & then use a Gaa forum to give your own voting preference. The hypocrisy seems lost on some.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 22/04/2018 22:28:43    2094401

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Do all the the campaigning you want..but dont use the gaa's name to go about it.bad decision by these people

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 23/04/2018 06:44:43    2094411

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I believe they actually used the term ' gaelic athletes' and didn't use the term gaa, I'm open to correction on this. It is an important distinction to make if correct.

A Another (None) - Posts: 193 - 23/04/2018 08:27:10    2094417

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Replying To AHP:  "As for the red thumbs, I got two, so far, for simply asking the question. I didn't offer an opinion one way or the other. Perhaps it was too difficult a question to understand or might it be reflective of some peoples attitude to free speech on certain subjects."
I'd say it's more to do with the county youre from. The usual suspects at play.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 23/04/2018 08:37:06    2094420

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Glad this has been stamped out regardless of opinions.

Harte would be better off working out how to negate Conor McManus next month than pontificating on social matters.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 23/04/2018 11:07:34    2094448

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I thought the rulebook referred only to 'party political '.

worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 339 - 23/04/2018 11:12:18    2094449

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Replying To worple:  "I thought the rulebook referred only to 'party political '."
As a matter of interest, do you think the Gaa should offically endorse either side in this referendum? Or do you think it's best that they remain neutral?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 23/04/2018 11:49:13    2094459

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