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Replying To Kurt_Angle: "You do know that Dublin play in the hurling championship too?" I do gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 18/04/2018 12:35:05 2093782 Link
Amazing the people advising to just go and watch every game we want to see. It would be nice to have the time and money to take the family to all those games but in the grand scheme of things it's far from feasible, especially the rates the GAA charge their 'community' SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/04/2018 14:53:54 2093805 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Its not the 1950's though an the GAA inhabits a space fighting for exposure multi factorialy with other sports, both for finance, support, participation and exposure. It needs to be competitive in that expanse in order to grow and evolve. Even if its just kids in Carlow or Leitrim who cant get to the game for a variety of reasons, who have the oppurtunity to see their county. I really think GAA as a product is under developed." You see that is a reasonable argument, it's not simple emotional argument and calling it a disgrace of the original post. the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 18/04/2018 16:06:52 2093821 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Amazing the people advising to just go and watch every game we want to see. It would be nice to have the time and money to take the family to all those games but in the grand scheme of things it's far from feasible, especially the rates the GAA charge their 'community'" I agree mate, my first thought was for older people who may find it harder to get to games, people with illness in hospital or have limits on their mobility, people with disabilities or young kids through circumstances who dont have anyone to take them to a game. There are many circumstances why some and or former game attenders cant get to a game and a lot of them arent down to choice. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/04/2018 18:20:54 2093844 Link
Thats the same with all sports not just GAA, Munster or Leinster arent live every week, favourite League of Ireland teams arent live every week, we dont have entitlement to see every single game PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 18/04/2018 18:49:49 2093846 Link
How many were on last year does anyone know? OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 673 - 18/04/2018 18:56:29 2093847 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "I agree mate, my first thought was for older people who may find it harder to get to games, people with illness in hospital or have limits on their mobility, people with disabilities or young kids through circumstances who dont have anyone to take them to a game. There are many circumstances why some and or former game attenders cant get to a game and a lot of them arent down to choice." Spot on. Those people shouldnt be cast aside anymore than some already are in other parts of their lives due to unfortunate circumstances. The GAA should have a duty to serve the less fortunate (and not just for the cameras either). The AI championship is also played at a time that doesn't clash with soccer and rugby seasons. TV coverage is vital for the type of viewer who could be influenced to get more involved with their own clubs. I'd also be in favour of allowing free admission into games for anyone under 21. Interest has to be invested in the young generation. Speaking from my own circumstance of coaching an under age team in Belfast it is becoming nearly impossible to convince youngsters who have no affiliation to the GAA to come and play. They are drawn more to soccer and boxing etc and treat the GAA as a fill the gap hobby at best. If the GAA was a bit more welcoming in terms of access whether on tv or at the grounds they might receive more loyality or sense of belonging from youngsters. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/04/2018 19:44:40 2093852 Link
The 2 championships are played in a much shorter calendar this year. From start to finish both will be over in about 15 weeks. If 45 games are broadcast that means each weekend there will be on average 1 Saturday game and 2 Sunday games. In reality many weekends will have 2 Saturday games and 2 Sunday games as there will also be the final weekends which will have only 1 Sunday game. What do people want - championship games played midweek for the tv audience? What needs to happen is the highlights programmes each weekend must be longer with maybe even a return to the Monday game and this is something the GAA should be pushing for with RTE. If RTE don't want to do it then TG4 should be allowed have a highlights programme. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 18/04/2018 20:48:40 2093863 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "Spot on. Those people shouldnt be cast aside anymore than some already are in other parts of their lives due to unfortunate circumstances. The GAA should have a duty to serve the less fortunate (and not just for the cameras either). The AI championship is also played at a time that doesn't clash with soccer and rugby seasons. TV coverage is vital for the type of viewer who could be influenced to get more involved with their own clubs. I'd also be in favour of allowing free admission into games for anyone under 21. Interest has to be invested in the young generation. Speaking from my own circumstance of coaching an under age team in Belfast it is becoming nearly impossible to convince youngsters who have no affiliation to the GAA to come and play. They are drawn more to soccer and boxing etc and treat the GAA as a fill the gap hobby at best. If the GAA was a bit more welcoming in terms of access whether on tv or at the grounds they might receive more loyality or sense of belonging from youngsters." Excellent post mate. Thats a brilliant idea about children attending games for free even just league and provincal games , obviously an adult would accompany and have t buy a ticket and more enterising teachers may bring groups etc. Let's be honest we all hopped the stiles u til we were about 12 anyway. Out of curiosity mate, what is your opinion on the programmer of funding announced by the GAA for Belfast, I hope it's spent right by that I mean structures in attracting kids at grassroots and growing the club game. Would be brilliant if the huge potential could be harvested. I believe the plan will benifit a Down as well as Antrim theoretically. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/04/2018 22:28:30 2093876 Link
"Ahead of the start of last season, an agreement was struck whereby a total of 45 championship matches would be screened live - 31 by RTE and 14 by Sky Sports. New director-general Tom Ryan has confirmed that this arrangement will remain in place for the next three seasons" The new director general uses two words to describe the live coverage of the forthcoming championship, agreement and arrangement, he doesn't use the word contract, but imo if RTE were to get an extra couple of games so too would sky look for the same couple of games. It would be back to sq. one, I think. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 18/04/2018 22:48:51 2093877 Link
Jesus the GAA has a responsilbity to everything and everyone in Ireland if you follow this thread and many others. Lads they cannot do everything. More games on TV = money grabbers More games not on TV they are victimising the old and the weak of the country. I am sure somehow they are responsible for the fodder crisis as well! witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 19/04/2018 08:15:31 2093894 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "I do" Touché Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 19/04/2018 10:55:20 2093917 Link
Spot on. Those people shouldnt be cast aside anymore than some already are in other parts of their lives due to unfortunate circumstances. The GAA should have a duty to serve the less fortunate (and not just for the cameras either). The AI championship is also played at a time that doesn't clash with soccer and rugby seasons. TV coverage is vital for the type of viewer who could be influenced to get more involved with their own clubs. I'd also be in favour of allowing free admission into games for anyone under 21. Interest has to be invested in the young generation. Speaking from my own circumstance of coaching an under age team in Belfast it is becoming nearly impossible to convince youngsters who have no affiliation to the GAA to come and play. They are drawn more to soccer and boxing etc and treat the GAA as a fill the gap hobby at best. If the GAA was a bit more welcoming in terms of access whether on tv or at the grounds they might receive more loyality or sense of belonging from youngsters. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1589 - 18/04/2018 19:44:40The GAA would be crazy to allow anyone under age of 21 in for free. Allowing under16s in for free is crazy enough for some games at times. Interest has to be invested in younger people but not simply just getting them in to games for free. Just letting kids in for free doesnt make the sport/organisation more welcoming. You need to do more to keep people in the sport/get them to follow the sport more. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 19/04/2018 11:20:37 2093922 Link
45 live matches over a 4 month period is a lot of matches. I dont think we are going to be stuck for viewing. Any more matches may put off people attending live matches themselves. Lets bring on a great summer. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 19/04/2018 11:24:10 2093925 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Excellent post mate. Thats a brilliant idea about children attending games for free even just league and provincal games , obviously an adult would accompany and have t buy a ticket and more enterising teachers may bring groups etc. Let's be honest we all hopped the stiles u til we were about 12 anyway. Out of curiosity mate, what is your opinion on the programmer of funding announced by the GAA for Belfast, I hope it's spent right by that I mean structures in attracting kids at grassroots and growing the club game. Would be brilliant if the huge potential could be harvested. I believe the plan will benifit a Down as well as Antrim theoretically." I'm still a bit sceptical if I'm honest Username. Obviously, it's nice to hear that there will be investment in the Belfast GAA scene but id be a lot more assured if the investment came in the form of x, y and z plan as opposed to just an investment of 'money'. If the investment goes to the right places then I think it could mean a lot to the local scene. Schools has to be the number one priority though. The amount of participation at schools level in Belfast is abysmal and this is why a lot of youngsters take a bigger interest in other sports when not at school. If school kids were introduced to the game from a young age and coaching was maintained throughout their school years then I believe the local area would be thriving with young GAA talents. Some of the best underage players I've seen have been lost to soccer in particular because those lads have a lot of their best mates playing for soccer teams through school and local clubs. Your right in what you say about it benefiting Down clubs as well. South Belfast has seen a huge increase in the nationalist population in recent years and the numbers joining the two Belfast based Down clubs have been increasing year on year. Those teams have gone from being small time to highly competative at the top level in Down in a few short years and that investment will hopefully help that to continue as the appetite for GAA seems to be there. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/04/2018 14:08:22 2093963 Link
Replying To DonaldDuck: "Spot on. Those people shouldnt be cast aside anymore than some already are in other parts of their lives due to unfortunate circumstances. The GAA should have a duty to serve the less fortunate (and not just for the cameras either). The AI championship is also played at a time that doesn't clash with soccer and rugby seasons. TV coverage is vital for the type of viewer who could be influenced to get more involved with their own clubs. I'd also be in favour of allowing free admission into games for anyone under 21. Interest has to be invested in the young generation. Speaking from my own circumstance of coaching an under age team in Belfast it is becoming nearly impossible to convince youngsters who have no affiliation to the GAA to come and play. They are drawn more to soccer and boxing etc and treat the GAA as a fill the gap hobby at best. If the GAA was a bit more welcoming in terms of access whether on tv or at the grounds they might receive more loyality or sense of belonging from youngsters. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1589 - 18/04/2018 19:44:40The GAA would be crazy to allow anyone under age of 21 in for free. Allowing under16s in for free is crazy enough for some games at times. Interest has to be invested in younger people but not simply just getting them in to games for free. Just letting kids in for free doesnt make the sport/organisation more welcoming. You need to do more to keep people in the sport/get them to follow the sport more." Letting kids in for free isn't more welcoming? I think it absolutely is. I do agree that it's not the only thing that needs to be done, but it would help maintain the interest levels amongst youngsters and give them a feeling of belonging. Paying fees only means that the GAA wants to be no different to soccer or rugby. Treat it's followers as customers and it loses its uniqueness and community. The GAA can't compete with the popularity of soccer as a brand so it needs to have it's own approach towards the younger generation and not just try to mimic others. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/04/2018 14:21:44 2093970 Link
Replying To witnof: "Jesus the GAA has a responsilbity to everything and everyone in Ireland if you follow this thread and many others. Lads they cannot do everything. More games on TV = money grabbers More games not on TV they are victimising the old and the weak of the country. I am sure somehow they are responsible for the fodder crisis as well!" I think you might be reading a lot of people's opinions and combining them as though one person said all of them. Relax, wouldn't it be boring if everyone had the same view? SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/04/2018 15:02:59 2093980 Link
Letting kids in for free isn't more welcoming? I think it absolutely is. I do agree that it's not the only thing that needs to be done, but it would help maintain the interest levels amongst youngsters and give them a feeling of belonging. Paying fees only means that the GAA wants to be no different to soccer or rugby. Treat it's followers as customers and it loses its uniqueness and community. The GAA can't compete with the popularity of soccer as a brand so it needs to have it's own approach towards the younger generation and not just try to mimic others. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1592 - 19/04/2018 14:21:44 Allowing kids in for free wont make them more or as interested. If going to games generally kids will be paid in by their parents and often they have to go whther they like it or not. Paying for tickets doesnt mean GAA is the same as any other sport. Ticket income goes directly back into the sport and you dont lose uniqueness or community by charging people in. DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 19/04/2018 17:00:50 2094001 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "I'm still a bit sceptical if I'm honest Username. Obviously, it's nice to hear that there will be investment in the Belfast GAA scene but id be a lot more assured if the investment came in the form of x, y and z plan as opposed to just an investment of 'money'. If the investment goes to the right places then I think it could mean a lot to the local scene. Schools has to be the number one priority though. The amount of participation at schools level in Belfast is abysmal and this is why a lot of youngsters take a bigger interest in other sports when not at school. If school kids were introduced to the game from a young age and coaching was maintained throughout their school years then I believe the local area would be thriving with young GAA talents. Some of the best underage players I've seen have been lost to soccer in particular because those lads have a lot of their best mates playing for soccer teams through school and local clubs. Your right in what you say about it benefiting Down clubs as well. South Belfast has seen a huge increase in the nationalist population in recent years and the numbers joining the two Belfast based Down clubs have been increasing year on year. Those teams have gone from being small time to highly competative at the top level in Down in a few short years and that investment will hopefully help that to continue as the appetite for GAA seems to be there." I believe the money is being ear marked to improve our presence in the schools. This is badly needed. We have had little to no representation in A colleges over the years. Schools football is a great way for good players to get games at a higher level than their club. I don't want to be negative but I do think it'll be much harder work in Antrim than the initiatives were in Dublin. We don't have a legacy in football in the way that Dublin had. There isn't much for our best young players to aspire to. Dublin were winning Leinster for a number of years before their AI breakthrough. The best young players could dream of big days in Croker at the business end of things. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 19/04/2018 19:19:21 2094015 Link
Replying To DonaldDuck: "Letting kids in for free isn't more welcoming? I think it absolutely is. I do agree that it's not the only thing that needs to be done, but it would help maintain the interest levels amongst youngsters and give them a feeling of belonging. Paying fees only means that the GAA wants to be no different to soccer or rugby. Treat it's followers as customers and it loses its uniqueness and community. The GAA can't compete with the popularity of soccer as a brand so it needs to have it's own approach towards the younger generation and not just try to mimic others. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 1592 - 19/04/2018 14:21:44 Allowing kids in for free wont make them more or as interested. If going to games generally kids will be paid in by their parents and often they have to go whther they like it or not. Paying for tickets doesnt mean GAA is the same as any other sport. Ticket income goes directly back into the sport and you dont lose uniqueness or community by charging people in." It gives kids easier access to watch games which in turn allows them to build a bond with the games that they might not do if everything had a price tag. Your description of kids being paid in by their parents is not really a general example. Maybe for big matches at Croker or on the road somewhere but my experience of local matches is of kids going along with their school or club mates and generally through their own choice, after a certain age anyway. Some of the money from the GAA goes back into the games. But there are also a lot of question marks about where exactly the money goes. Clubs are the heart beat of the association, or so we are told, yet clubs are struggling all over the country. Yet there is enough money to buy state of the art stadiums and facilities for county purpose only. Not exactly getting to the source is it. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/04/2018 19:35:39 2094017 Link