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Monaghan v Tyrone - Ulster SFC

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "I'd (naturally) disagree with this assessment. Monaghan were never flat out in the league. The body language at the end of the Dublin game was evidence of this. This is one of the lessons learned from last year when we went flat to the mat (with a party hat:-)) from the first league game and ended up bowing out tamely in the Championship. Only 3 Monaghan players played every minute of every game in this years league and of those 3 only Rory Beggan was an established player. I think we have far more attacking options than Tyrone and crucially we have far more players who can score points from further out the field.
Adding to that, Beggan is on a different planet to Morgan when it comes to reliability on scoring placed balls. Morgan is still living off one superb kicking diplay v Dublin about 5 years ago.
McCann and Brennan would be big boosts for Tyrone but Colm Cavanagh is a huge loss. There is no one on the Tyrone team who could do his job at the same level.
Lastly, it still could be Tyrone or it could be Monaghan but its a kick of ball, no more. One thing is for certain - whoever wins in Omagh, wins Ulster."
Agree with that, good analysis. We do depend a lot on C Cav, and he's not getting any younger

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 484 - 10/05/2018 19:47:30    2097963

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Replying To greysoil:  "Absolutely familiar with Tyrone's form in Croke Park - Sean Cavanagh 2013 & the L'Oréal kid McCann in 2015 - hardly inspiring"
You can say what you like greysoil, Tyrone's form in Croker was inspiring enough to beat Monaghan on both occasions. A trend I expect to continue on Sunday week in Healy Park

Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 90 - 10/05/2018 23:20:09    2097995

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Replying To Dergforeeva:  "You can say what you like greysoil, Tyrone's form in Croker was inspiring enough to beat Monaghan on both occasions. A trend I expect to continue on Sunday week in Healy Park"
I can guess the trend that is going to continue in the game and it will have nothing to do with football.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 11/05/2018 19:24:34    2099727

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Replying To Dergforeeva:  "You can say what you like greysoil, Tyrone's form in Croker was inspiring enough to beat Monaghan on both occasions. A trend I expect to continue on Sunday week in Healy Park"
Good man. Let's hope it is a good, sporting game. And the better team will win on the day.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 284 - 11/05/2018 20:01:26    2099731

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Replying To mon07:  "I can guess the trend that is going to continue in the game and it will have nothing to do with football."
Catch yourself on man and stop firing out tired oul chestnuts, there's no team squeaky clean and you'd be foolish to think otherwise. Agree with greysoil 100% a good sporting contest and may the best team won

Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 90 - 11/05/2018 20:28:38    2099734

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Replying To Dergforeeva:  "Catch yourself on man and stop firing out tired oul chestnuts, there's no team squeaky clean and you'd be foolish to think otherwise. Agree with greysoil 100% a good sporting contest and may the best team won"
I think we have touched on a very sore spot or are you just very nervous about the game.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 11/05/2018 21:16:10    2099736

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Replying To mon07:  "I think we have touched on a very sore spot or are you just very nervous about the game."
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/fury-over-tyrone-gaa-teams-testicle-tugging-dirty-tricks-28706532.html.

Have a read. This is club level.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 11/05/2018 21:40:42    2099740

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Replying To mon07:  "https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/fury-over-tyrone-gaa-teams-testicle-tugging-dirty-tricks-28706532.html.

Have a read. This is club level."
If you have anything constructive to say about the game in question that would be nice.
Anyway looking forward to it. Someone said it's going to be a wet weekend which could leave it a low scoring game.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1362 - 15/05/2018 22:01:21    2101187

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Really looking forward to this contest. I think it will be tight, tactical with both teams cancelling each other out for long spells. Monaghan' s discipline in the league let them down a few times but they'll need to be very disciplined on Sunday.
League form will mean nothing in the championship and I feel Tyrone will get by with a few to spare.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1435 - 15/05/2018 22:14:06    2101192

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Looking forward to this one, pity it's not on live tv, I have a feeling Monaghan will win it.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 513 - 15/05/2018 22:33:14    2101198

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "If you have anything constructive to say about the game in question that would be nice.
Anyway looking forward to it. Someone said it's going to be a wet weekend which could leave it a low scoring game."
It'll be low scoring either way I fear!

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 726 - 15/05/2018 22:37:35    2101201

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It be 12 to 09 to monaghan kieran hughes and mansy will make the different monaghan better quality players and tryone have loss sean cavanagh

Decfarneyarmy (Monaghan) - Posts: 37 - 16/05/2018 03:52:22    2101234

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Both teams could be happy with their league form but I'm going on Tyrone's form in the Ulster Championship over the last two years. Mickey Harte has spread the scoring throughout the team and the addition of Lee Brennan should correct one of the weak points over the last few years (free taking). Tyrone to win by four points.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1503 - 16/05/2018 09:33:30    2101260

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Replying To Byanthon:  "Both teams could be happy with their league form but I'm going on Tyrone's form in the Ulster Championship over the last two years. Mickey Harte has spread the scoring throughout the team and the addition of Lee Brennan should correct one of the weak points over the last few years (free taking). Tyrone to win by four points."
Agree, given to the fact that it's in Healy Park and that I think this Tyrone team will be keen to lay down an early marker that we are Ulster champions for a reason I think Tyrone will won. Won't be easy, Monaghan are a tough battle hardened side and deserve big respect but I just think Tyrone are a better side and will show it on Sunday

Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 90 - 16/05/2018 17:53:05    2101464

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "If you have anything constructive to say about the game in question that would be nice.
Anyway looking forward to it. Someone said it's going to be a wet weekend which could leave it a low scoring game."
Good to see SC getting in the excuses early while still tipping Tyrone to win. Blaming the field and the ground in general. Apart from that I think Monaghan have brought in better players than Tyrone over the league. All hopes of a win are been pined on the young LB lad. Should Monaghan hold their discipline he won't have much of an impact on the game and if there is no CC or mc cann then two of the best players you have for tracking back and breaking out of defence will be irreplaceable. Therefore Monaghan by 3 or 4.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 16/05/2018 19:37:41    2101482

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Replying To mon07:  "Good to see SC getting in the excuses early while still tipping Tyrone to win. Blaming the field and the ground in general. Apart from that I think Monaghan have brought in better players than Tyrone over the league. All hopes of a win are been pined on the young LB lad. Should Monaghan hold their discipline he won't have much of an impact on the game and if there is no CC or mc cann then two of the best players you have for tracking back and breaking out of defence will be irreplaceable. Therefore Monaghan by 3 or 4."
Indeed, all hopes of a victory for the back-to-back defending Ulster champions are being pinned on Lee Brennan, a lad who didn't kick a ball in either our 2016 or 2017 Ulster championship wins....

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 972 - 16/05/2018 20:23:28    2101497

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Replying To Thomas Clarke:  "Indeed, all hopes of a victory for the back-to-back defending Ulster champions are being pinned on Lee Brennan, a lad who didn't kick a ball in either our 2016 or 2017 Ulster championship wins...."
Good to see we are bit by bit getting under your skin. Looking forward to a very hostile Tyrone crowd trying to intimidate our players and the ref who will need to have a good game. Well done you 2 in a row such a pity there won't be 3 in a row.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 16/05/2018 22:57:23    2101546

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Replying To mon07:  "Good to see we are bit by bit getting under your skin. Looking forward to a very hostile Tyrone crowd trying to intimidate our players and the ref who will need to have a good game. Well done you 2 in a row such a pity there won't be 3 in a row."
Nice to be going for it though

Dergforeeva (Tyrone) - Posts: 90 - 16/05/2018 23:40:34    2101555

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Replying To mon07:  "Good to see SC getting in the excuses early while still tipping Tyrone to win. Blaming the field and the ground in general. Apart from that I think Monaghan have brought in better players than Tyrone over the league. All hopes of a win are been pined on the young LB lad. Should Monaghan hold their discipline he won't have much of an impact on the game and if there is no CC or mc cann then two of the best players you have for tracking back and breaking out of defence will be irreplaceable. Therefore Monaghan by 3 or 4."
Don't be such a sour dose man. Anybody can win on the day and whoever it is will be the likely ulster champions,and the loser on the day will still have plenty to play for. Lighten up a bit it's the first game for both our teams.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4044 - 17/05/2018 07:22:28    2101579

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I'm obviously hoping Donegal will reach the Ulster final from the other side. The ideal scenario for us would be for Monaghan and Tyrone to play out an epic 4 game saga like Dublin Meath in 1991!

All joking aside, as good as Monaghan have been, and God knows they've proved it against us enough times, Tyrone seem to have the knack of upsetting them in Championship football. I'd give them the nod to win this by 2 or 3 points.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6039 - 17/05/2018 10:15:34    2101612

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