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Look at kildare hardly a hard route to a leinster final
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 03/04/2018 10:03:26 2090547 Link 0 |
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that's two wins needed
reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 03/04/2018 10:18:18 2090554 Link 0 |
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Ahh I get most people back up at some stage lol :). But there is a few times when I take my Meath hat off and I want to discuss the problems within the gaa. Look some out west and down south may take offense to this, I actually don't mean to offend anyone on this matter. The path to the super 8 is not a level playing field for any county in either Leinster or ulster, if we want as a organization to go down this road then we must even it out, how to do that is the problem, but we cannot use the provincial championship as it stands as a means of at what stage you come in at, if we are to then to have a level playing field the losers of both Munster and Connaught finals must come in a round earlier than Leinster and ulster. Same with semi finalist of both province royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 10:22:38 2090555 Link 0 |
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royaldunne, can you explain to me how Roscommon only need to win one game, you have being going on about this for an age now. Roscommon need to win two games to get there, Connacht semi final and final, or semi final and one qualifier. that's two games in any mans language.
reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 03/04/2018 10:23:39 2090556 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't say that. Let's assume they meet Westmeath in semi final, the team that knocked them out at that stage couple years ago and did the same to Meath previous year. Westmeath have been in more Leinster finals than either Meath or Kildare over last few years
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 10:26:13 2090558 Link 0 |
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Look keep the provincial championship but run them separate to championship. And don't have them as a barometer for where you enter championship proper.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 10:30:26 2090564 Link 0 |
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That actually works very nicely. Round 1 qualifiers same as now Round 2 qualifiers 8 round 1 winners plus 4 Connacht and Munster losing semi finalists Round 3 6 round 2 winners plus 4 Leinster and Ulster losing semi finalists plus 2 Munster and Connacht losing finalists. Round 4 6 round 3 winners plus Leinster and Ulster losing finalists Super 8 4 Provincial champions plus 4 round 4 winners Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 03/04/2018 10:58:26 2090576 Link 1 |
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It was a bloody competitive game and Galway are a strong contender this year. You would be better looking and at least have a bit of knowledge about what you're commenting on.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 03/04/2018 11:00:39 2090578 Link 1 |
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New York or Leitrim might as well be an rtc side. So Ross have more or less a bye into a provincial final. Sorry if this upsets Roscommon fans but this is the reality the way seedlings and draws work within the GAA. For sure, a Connaught final v either Mayo or Galway is a big, big game, but any other opposition is not worth watching. Even the pundits on tv find it difficult to sell the matches or analyse the highlights, as there are none after about the first 15 minutes. Rosscommon are a fairly good team, but will not have to shift a gear at all until the provincial final. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 03/04/2018 11:12:53 2090583 Link 3 |
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Maybe you didn't read my post correctly. I said one REAL game. As in do you actually expect first game to be anything more than a formality, so effectively ONE game.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 11:44:31 2090591 Link 2 |
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Yep. Look if we can figure out a reasonable situation why can't gaa bigwigs? At the moment it's a farce
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 12:07:41 2090603 Link 0 |
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That's exactly my point, the first game is a joke. And is effectively a bye into provincial final. Meaning they have to win one game out of two to get into super 8s. That's not Roscommon fault and I don't want this turned into a Roscommon thing, but facts are facts. I am sure many many Roscommon fans would be annoyed if tables were turned say with donegal . It's about seeking a level playing field for all. Nothing against Roscommon at all. Or Kerry , it is the gaa bigwigs I have a problem with , for not sorting this out
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 12:12:27 2090607 Link 0 |
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To think there was even posters that actually gave green thumbs to his comment.. But that's the cut of some... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 12:16:36 2090611 Link 1 |
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It's funny how this same topic comes up year after year. No resolution to it. Super 8s is a championship restructure that has no link whatsoever to the lop-sided nature of May, June and even July in the calendar. Like last year, and too many years previously; there will be almost no competitiveness to speak of until August. The odd evenly matched game here or there, probably in Ulster. It's ridiculous that Cavan or Donegal have to win 4 pretty tough or very tough contests to win Ulster whereas the draw has Roscommon effectively in a Connaught final. No harm to Roscommon, they're a fine team and making great strides. It's not about picking in a county. This is about a structural problem in the GAA championship structure. But we are saying this in droves for years now at this stage. Nothing changes and we are treated to the same non-events in the majority of games in May, June and July. With certain counties in certain provinces getting effectively warm-up games until August. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 03/04/2018 12:18:21 2090612 Link 1 |
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Teams that won All Ireland's between from 1974 to 1986 Kerry 8 Dublin 4 Offally 1 .No complaints from Kerry boys then was there it seems to me a lot of them feel it's their God given right to win Sam every yr
dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 03/04/2018 13:45:04 2090661 Link 5 |
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Teams that won All Ireland's between from 1974 to 1986 Kerry 8 Dublin 4 Offally 1 .No complaints from Kerry boys then was there it seems to me a lot of them feel it's their God given right to win Sam every yr
dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 03/04/2018 13:45:24 2090662 Link 2 |
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I wouldn't go that far as to say we or Cavan have tough games to get to the final. Both teams have a hard 1st round match. If either team is worthy of their salt at all, there would be a 2 match run that would mean the pressure is off a bit. Derry are the quarter final opposition and are probably at their lowest footballing ebb ever. The semis are the winners of division 2 demotes Down or division 4 Antrim. That is not tough especially seeing as it is in a neutral venue- for a team that means business that is. Mayo/Galway and Monaghan/Tyrone face the very same dilemmas. The fact remains, if you are off the bridle 5 or 6 weeks before most other teams, and then off it again in a provincial final, you are not facing the same challenges of other teams such as Roscommon. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 03/04/2018 14:11:10 2090667 Link 0 |
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A lot has to do with the luck of the draw. My own county could have gotten mayo followed by galway or vise versa which would be the hardest possible draw of any province. There is also a argument that if we do get to a provincial final we will go in cold against a team who has two tough games under there belts kildare are on the right side of the draw in leinster. Westmeath arent great at the moment. Donegal and others have gotten kind draws in the past to get to ulster finals. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 03/04/2018 14:52:04 2090684 Link 0 |
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Gas isn't it.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 14:59:03 2090688 Link 0 |
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Tough draw for Monaghan this year but its swings and roundabouts - In 2015 we qualified for an Ulster Final by beating Cavan and Fermanagh. Donegal had to qualify by beating Tyrone, Armagh and Derry. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 03/04/2018 15:24:54 2090700 Link 0 |