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What about the 90s jim where Cork Down Donegal Derry Dublin Meath Kerry and Galway all won allirelands? And you mentioned the naughties but our selves Tyrone Armagh and Galway our teams had natural life cycles because none of our teams were being unnaturally pumped with cash from the GAA. But Dublin now have the financial power to sustain them selves at the top for the foreseeable future.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/04/2018 21:31:51 2090449 Link 1 |
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Leinster Royal is the weakest championship by a long stretch now. In Munster Tipp Clare are level if not ahead of cork. 3 teams in the west and 3 in the North. 1 in Leinster. The blame for Meaths failings are not in the system or structure. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 02/04/2018 21:42:21 2090453 Link 2 |
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My point is that if I have got the format right of how they super 8 are selected these are the teams that I imagine will be in that final 8
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 02/04/2018 21:49:15 2090454 Link 0 |
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Highly unlikely, that been said we threw away a 4 point lead with time up in Hyde park. And I'm not having a go at Roscommon (some might say for a change) but in all honesty where is the fairness in the current situation. I love the provincial championship, but since the back door and now the super 8 thing it's lost it's purpose , run them by all means, but let's have a 32 county championship (London for Kilkenny) straight knock out open draw .
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/04/2018 22:03:02 2090464 Link 1 |
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It's not a Meath thing despite people putting it up that way. Let me be clear if Kildare are drawn on same side as Dublin next year or Westmeath they face same thing. And btw Meath hammered Clare this year. But that is irrelevant to the point that Munster and Connaught have a distinct advantage than teams in Leinster (all teams not just Meath) and ulster. The provincial system is not fit for purpose with the introduction of super 8 do you not agree
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/04/2018 22:07:15 2090466 Link 0 |
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Again I'll repeat myself. This is about EVERY COUNTY, not Meath. I'll be quite clear we will not reach super 8 unless something changes dramatically, however if we had to play London to be one win away from super 8 out of two, I guarantee we would make it. But I would also say it is unfair on ulster and Leinster teams. There has to be a better system for ALL counties.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/04/2018 22:10:48 2090468 Link 1 |
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And if Dublin were in another province how competitive would that province be? The best team in the country, arguably the best ever, are in Leinster and that skews the competitiveness. Come championship post Leinster every other county then in turn can't beat them either. Most find out how uncompetitive they are too. After Mayo,Kildare were the team next nearest Dublin in a run that included Dublin playing what were the best two teams in Ulster.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 02/04/2018 22:10:58 2090469 Link 0 |
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That's it. I'll be clear yet again. I doubt very much Meath will make it. But by Christ if we only had to play New York Leitrim Sligo to be one game away from it I'd give us a fair shout. Look at donegal and Cavan. I'd rate both as been top 8 at moment but one will need a miracle to reach it due to the ridiculous way of how this is been run.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/04/2018 22:14:48 2090476 Link 0 |
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And you can add Carlow giving them a tighter game than Tyrone.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/04/2018 22:18:05 2090478 Link 1 |
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many teams came and won all Irelands , but one county totally dominated with 37 all Irelands lol.... yes the natural eco system is indeed disturbed , finally Kerry have a challenge on there hands. superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/04/2018 22:48:30 2090488 Link 1 |
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I would usually have been glued to the National League finals but gave them all a miss this year. It's a formality now and Gaelic football is a in a very poor state BUT hey Dublin are bringing the dollars in for Croke Park, the media are delighted their team is NO. 1 as it sells copy and advertising and the rest are just........ "jealous whingers"... so there you have it. Suck it up folks, you just haven't realised yet that Dublin's annual coronation is good for you. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 02/04/2018 23:01:50 2090492 Link 3 |
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Probably on form that would be the expected choice. However 3 of the top 10 teams in the country will be in the draw for round one of the qualifiers (losers of Mayo/Galway, Tyrone/Monaghan and Donegal/Cavan). Can't see them avoiding each other for 4 rounds of qualifiers in an open draw. Also. New York will be fancying their chances against Leitrim/ What would happen it they did happen to win as only 2 losing teams from Connaught are down to play in the first round of qualifiers. Who is Jamie Clarke playing for this year, is he out in NY? Regarding the topic itself. The chasing pack are getting closer to Dublin, but I think Dublin would have to drop a bit for them to lose this year especially as the the super 8s will only help them. Connolly will be a loss if not returned and I feel ROC loss will be felt more this year than last year. Four times in the last 2 games they lost high balls into the square against K Hughes and Comer. It might be clutching at straws but what can you do, they are that good mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 02/04/2018 23:11:25 2090494 Link 0 |
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Roscommon has 2 games to win to get to a quarter final the same as 2 munster counties but as always you never let facts get in the way.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 02/04/2018 23:18:21 2090497 Link 1 |
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its a formality lol , who won the national league final of 2017 ?
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 02/04/2018 23:35:48 2090500 Link 2 |
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Royal dunne most of the time you get me back up ;-) but I see and agree with the point you are making .. the path of a losing / winning Munster or Connacht semifinalist to the super 8s is a rather handy one and seeing as several counties each year enter at the provincial semis it's hardly balanced fair just even right but it IS very GAA like ! ... and it's nothing got to do with Dublin dominating .. we have to un couple the provincials from the all Ireland series .. nuff said
AnBuachaillGlas (Fermanagh) - Posts: 287 - 03/04/2018 00:52:33 2090510 Link 0 |
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The provincial set up is a joke and must be stopped immediately. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 03/04/2018 01:33:58 2090512 Link 0 |
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One game to get to a Connaught final. And who is that game against?? I also said Munster is the same situation. A joke.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/04/2018 08:35:15 2090523 Link 0 |
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You weren't complaining about the 90's when Kerry were winning titles in the 00's!! Not one poster pointed out that only 4 teams won the All Ireland compared to 6 in the 90's... why? Why have to make such a point now ? Because you're not winning is it? The 90's saw a period that was unusual sin GAA history - so many individual Ulster sides winning multiple titles - it's a poor decade to use as an example as it was an usual decade compared to most. If it wasn't for Tyrone yiz would have won 7 titles in the 00's .. And all would have been rosey for you How about the 80's man.... what happened then aye?? You just keep moving the jumpers to suit your own goal posts chief! The 10's is proven to be a very competitive decade for All Ireland victories Closer finals compared to the 00's... so far :) jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 09:10:08 2090529 Link 3 |
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Ahh Ulsterman How about sticking to slagging off your own county on the main page :) Save your defeatist nonsense for your own county and don't be passing it into other counties who are busting a gut Galway fans would disagree with you as would Monaghan fans and Donegal fans They competed very well indeed as will other top teams in 2018 as has been proven across this decade. Why are you conveniently forgetting how competitive this decade has been? Look at the epic battles that have taken place across this decade. Point me to one cake walk All Ireland victory in this decade? You've got an opinion but it doesn't add up to the black and white results. It's been a hugely competitive decade. Very small margins between the top teams across some of the best games ever witnessed in Croke Park. You have a self serving revisionist opinion compared to the actual reality of how close this decade has been. With the tactics and strategy now deployed in this decade it's never been harder to win titles... and this has been proven with the results Ulster will rise again but it won't be down to a defeatist like you! But like before you'll be all over celebrating their victories... maybe that's what's wrong with you now ? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 09:25:18 2090532 Link 1 |
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Ulsterman's logic: jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/04/2018 09:59:04 2090544 Link 1 |