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so clare v limerick was decided using a 65-metre free competion.....and there is a clamour from people like ger loughnane,anthony daly,etc to get it changed to a penalty shoot out. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 21/03/2018 12:52:31 2086599 Link 6 |
The biggest problem with the GAA right now is that everyone knows what they're against but no one knows what they are for. Everything is terrible and awful and getting worse by the hour, and players are leaving in their droves. Doom merchants proclaim the death of the association unless those in up there in Croke Park repent for their multitude of sins. Club players are essentially being flogged to death on pitches the length and breath of the country and then being kept under lock and key in jail cells lest they sneak out for a bit of social interaction between games or training. Whilst hyperbole rules, nothing will get done or changed. Until someone makes coherent sense about what is needed to be done, nothing will be done. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 21/03/2018 13:59:37 2086624 Link 5 |
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 21/03/2018 15:45:45 2086660 Link 0 |
You've described normality for anyone who's ever been involved with a club committee or training a team. Hell, maybe you described Ireland in general! Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 21/03/2018 15:47:56 2086661 Link 1 |
Cant make everyone happy, its the aspects of all walk of life PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 21/03/2018 15:50:32 2086662 Link 0 |
It was never as bad as it is now, that is for sure. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 21/03/2018 15:51:28 2086663 Link 0 |
Good point on Loughnane, would he be complaining had they won?! It's like the disciplinary system. We all know it is joke how players get off through loopholes and technicalities. We all agree it is wrong, until it is one of our players! I've probably done it myself sure but it is frustrating. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 21/03/2018 16:04:55 2086672 Link 1 |
Sometimes the problem is to do with who is driving the change or where the idea for the change originated. Our new President says that his main aim is to have a two tier 'All-Ireland' c'ship in place by the end of his presidency, this despite practically all of the weaker counties being totally opposed to it. We had the same approach taken by P. Duffy regarding the 'Super 8' and TV rights. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 21/03/2018 16:47:36 2086691 Link 0 |
I think it was the Clare manager who said the game should have been replayed rather than settled with 65s because with the other quarter finals cancelled there was no rush to have the tie settled. Imagine the complaining about the money hungry GAA if that was agreed, never mind the stupidity of changing the rules of a competition the morning of the game. It's no wonder it's almost impossible to fill positions on club committees with the same lads doing 2 or 3 different jobs to try and keep the show on the road. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/03/2018 08:29:38 2086859 Link 0 |
Lot of it comes from ''hurling people''. But then again when are they ever happy with anything why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 22/03/2018 12:26:13 2086927 Link 0 |
Totally agree, Soma.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/03/2018 14:21:50 2086973 Link 0 |
Spoken like a true football man.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/03/2018 14:23:12 2086974 Link 0 |
and that statement sums up what is wrong.sure should they decide on the day if they want a replay?
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 22/03/2018 14:35:04 2086983 Link 1 |
There are loads of examples to be fair. Lads complaining because games are called off just 6 hours before throw-in due to snow - I have been walking to the ground for a premier league soccer game over here when it was announced it was postponed due to the weather. Iv also had friends book tickets and flights for a premier league game only for it to be cancelled due to a fa cup replay. These things happen in sport despite everyone's best efforts. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/03/2018 15:21:17 2087003 Link 1 |
Good thread and very true. I thought the free taking was exciting and novel. carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 22/03/2018 19:20:10 2087084 Link 1 |
There will always be problems and that is life as we all have different opinions on many things. Too many rule changes resulting in all types of cards which makes the game more difficult to Ref. The game has become very difficult to watch-maybe if we went back to football it would become more interesting. Players having to train 6 nights a week for county (and also in some clubs) is a problem for amateur sport- this restricts the job development of young adults. And! more and more guys at the top getting larger and larger pay packets. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 22/03/2018 19:43:58 2087095 Link 1 |
TBF Loughnane does think about what he writes and he may have a point re penalties. But the Clare mangement saying that a replay the following weekend could have worked seemed to lack any real thought . Would it have been fair to Galway and Wexford if they draw this weekend and ended on 65's? What would happen if Clare and Limerick ended in a draw again after a replay? Totally agree though that its impossible to please everyone or anyone sometimes in the GAA and its getting worse. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 22/03/2018 21:11:29 2087124 Link 0 |
Yes, and quite funny actually considering "football people" are the quintessence of unhappiness with their never- ending desire to tinker with the rules of football and carry it to a stage where they want to introduce football only rules into hurling!! (eg the black card rule). For the most part "hurling people are quite happy with their sport and the rules that apply to it but would be even happier if " football people" would just keep their meddling to football!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 23/03/2018 02:26:13 2087156 Link 0 |
I think 65s and frees to settle a drawn game is exciting and a good test of skill and nerve. You can't have similar in soccer as the chances of scoring a goal from distance against an alert keeper would be low. So this allows GAA to showcase a skill. I'm all for it and agree the moaners need a custard pie in the face every time they start essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 23/03/2018 07:07:55 2087161 Link 0 |
There's a little bit of truth in both posts, IMO. Yes, hurling people are generally happier with the state of their game, and you can see this in the night and day attitudes of hurling and football analysts. There is a lovely absence of negativity from the hurling lads that unfortunately is not replicated among football analysts. HOWEVER: for all the pride that hurling people have in their game, there is also an insecurity there, probably grounded in the fact that football is (and probably always will be) the more popular game. Thus, there is always a bit of anxiety there that hurling won't get the prominence it deserves (or will decline in playing numbers), hence the outcry over the Super 8s and how they'd overshadow the hurling championship. I've heard hurling people make comments about bursting every football in the parish etc. which you'd seldom hear the other way around. DISCLAIMER: I play and enjoy both games. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 23/03/2018 09:08:55 2087171 Link 1 |