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Read the Pat Spillane headline and wondered what thripe this would be, but after a couple of lines it actually makes sense. Just wondering what other peoples opinions are on it i think it would work as long as stronger counties cannot poach the best players from the weaker counties and the same with clubs. Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 20/02/2018 13:09:33 2078712 Link 1 |
The idea is total nonsense. Unworkable. To name one issue, Players would be going to the highest bidder same as managers currently are. Even if it was workable, why would we want it to work? Would people really be interested in going to see mercenaries playing in their county Jersey? There are rules there at the minute which allow players to move clubs and counties for valid reasons.. work, family connections. If there is bottleneck of players in Dublin (which I'm sure our Dublin friends will tell us is not an issue..."once in a generation group of players" argument etc) do we really take away one of the fundamental aspects of the association (representing your local area) just to solve it? Cupotay (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 20/02/2018 14:38:00 2078747 Link 1 |
This post has been incorporated here as it is the same subject matter. Administrator (None) - Posts: 2274 - 20/02/2018 14:59:11 2078752 Link 0 |
Only a matter of time but it won't happen soon and the club scene is equally disproportioned and in need of an injection of transfer and/or player cross-over. GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 336 - 20/02/2018 15:36:09 2078765 Link 0 |
Would make you wonder about all the great Kerry players that never got a sniff of county action in the 70s and 80s. If only some of the weaker counties had access to them, the unbridgeable chasm would never have opened up. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12125 - 20/02/2018 15:44:16 2078766 Link 3 |
I dont think you understand what spillane means he says from bigger to smaller counties such as the unwanted in your dublins, kerry, mayo all the players who are not making the grade there would be able to move to the likes of your Leitrims, Carlow, limerick. It would be great for smaller counties to compete. He doesnt mean Dublin get Murphy from Donegal or the likes. I think it would be a good idea.
Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 20/02/2018 15:50:53 2078770 Link 0 |
Its an alternative to the split Dublin one that does the rounds every year but this would be completely unworkable. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 20/02/2018 15:56:54 2078772 Link 0 |
I know it's probably unworkable and a completely different sport and professional set up but I have great admiration for the American football model whereby every team has the same wage cap for players and staff and each team can only spend the same amount each year in running the team. leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 645 - 20/02/2018 16:15:11 2078777 Link 0 |
yerra kerry give us a lend of some of the 4 in a row minor team. Just think all the lads they that wont get into senior panel of 30? Clare,Limerick and Tipperary be delighted to get them lads too BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 20/02/2018 16:25:36 2078778 Link 0 |
I think it's a good idea but as Cupotay suggests it would need to policed to stop some players being incentivised to go to some counties. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7373 - 20/02/2018 16:44:04 2078780 Link 1 |
the 2 Dublin solution would be much simpler, not that I like it but the rest of Leinster is so lame maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 20/02/2018 17:01:14 2078786 Link 0 |
Your county is and not half of it. Would probably end up with two very strong teams in Dublin without improving overall standards in Leinster. GAA revenue might suffer as Dublin supporters don't enjoy the rivalry with us culchies as much. I think the atmosphere at Dublin North v Dublin South games would be artificial and woeful compared to Dublin v country teams, especially championship games in Croke Park. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7373 - 20/02/2018 17:22:19 2078793 Link 2 |
look I love the Dubs and I would leave everything as is but I was thinking a split in Dublin might be better than the Spillane solution which would have unintended consequences. The revenue point you make is correct, I wonder what is the best solution? The goal is to get more lads playing inter- county.
maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 20/02/2018 17:42:32 2078803 Link 0 |
Pat must have given up all hope of Kerry being able to beat Dublin for another decade if he's suggesting this. greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 20/02/2018 18:05:09 2078807 Link 1 |
The partition of Dublin would be a massive long term and risky step for the GAA. It might work but it would take decades to get it to the support and buy in levels that Dublin GAA currently has across the city and county. You'd start off at a very low base where almost no one who currently supports the Dubs, from those at Walsh/O'Byrne Cup games to those that show up come sunny summer days, would come out and support their new made up partitioned "county". MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 20/02/2018 18:30:51 2078815 Link 1 |
Unworkable. Cannot see some good dublin footballer heading to longford etc. Could see A good county player from sligo etc going to dublin
Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 597 - 20/02/2018 19:47:53 2078835 Link 0 |
I can't see it working. There are way to many issues with it to even go into detail on it. Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1596 - 21/02/2018 13:24:27 2078975 Link 0 |
Problem is as soon as a regional team becomes successful the calls will start to break them up again. A good starting point might be to balance resources a bit better and see where teams are then. Teams like Leitrim having to manage on 15k sponsorship are on the back foot from the beginning. Spillane's plan would turn the whole GAA as it was always meant to be on its head. Pride in your county and pride in the jersey is at the heart of the GAA.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 21/02/2018 13:47:25 2078983 Link 1 |
was there no ta version of this tried in hurling in recent years where a limited no of players from a McCarthy county who weren't making their own squad could play for a county that didn't play at McCarthy Cup level. I seem to recall the recent and relative improvements in Kildare and Kerry hurling (possibly others) being underpinned by Tipp and Clare based players playing under this rule. It wasn't a great success as geography seemed to be a natural limitation as to how far these players would venture from their home/base county downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 21/02/2018 14:13:16 2078987 Link 0 |
Unworkable and unwanted in my County. Gaelic football comes 4th after Hurling, rugby and soccer. The small crowd that follows Gaelic football would get even smaller if some of the team were outsiders coming into a county of 200,000 people. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 21/02/2018 14:19:28 2078990 Link 0 |