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Londonderry - will they ever learn?

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Replying To Htaem: "Ye.....first world problems." Went to college in jordanstown for a year in late 90'sand by god what a culture shock! We down south should keep our big mouths shout as we know nothing about what our fellow gaels have to go through and listen too day on day out tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 30/01/2018 20:52:21 2072566 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Again your naivety, ignorance and detachment prove you and many in the 26 counties know absolutely NOTHING about the North. Then again you have never had to face gun attacks, bombs, glass on pitches, RUC/British Army harassment etc on the way to games and training. When you have walked behind the coffin of a club member murdered by Loyalists then you will have the right to an opinion on the North, until then say nothing." Ye....not really the same thing though. Anyway chin up lad, tis great to be alive. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/01/2018 20:52:55 2072567 Link
Replying To Wally: "Well I was born and raised in the north Ulsterman so by your rationale I have enough authority to make a comment? And as far as I can see you have one serious chip on your shoulder. People like you literally don't want to get over the past. The troubles victims have absolutely nothing to do with this topic. One lady simply said Londonderry instead of Derry. And you still have not answered my question. If the shoe was on the other foot and you were commentating on a unionist sport addressed to unionist people would you use the term Londonderry or Derry?" Nor will we. He's the type who thinks everything that happened in the North was only to one side why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 30/01/2018 20:58:10 2072570 Link
Replying To Offside_Rule: ""I am responding to your complaint about our 1800 radio bulletin on Sunday 28th January. I can confirm that our newsreader accidentally misnamed Derry GAA. Although the title Derry was in the script, due to human error our newsreader made an on air adjustment as she read the name. We fully accept that the correct title of the county board is Derry and apologise for the mistake." That enough for you Thomas? Also, I am not ranting nor offended. I posted two posts each 1 sentence on the topic. Everything else, and this one included, are in response to people making foolish assertions about me. What was it Mark Twain said again about arguing with fools? Though have to say I enjoy it." You very much are ranting. Then again you're more than likely just Ulsterman using a different usermane why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 30/01/2018 21:01:00 2072571 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "My god you are a sad person.." Thanks for the feedback. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/01/2018 21:01:16 2072572 Link
Replying To why: "You very much are ranting. Then again you're more than likely just Ulsterman using a different usermane" Ok Thomas. Do me the courtesy of telling me what I have ranted about? Did you actually read my posts or are you another Wally who jumps to his own conclusions and makes yourself look foolish in doing so. In your own time - I'm going nowhere. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/01/2018 21:07:03 2072576 Link
Replying To why: "You very much are ranting. Then again you're more than likely just Ulsterman using a different usermane" Oh - and are you GaryMc under a different username? Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/01/2018 21:10:45 2072577 Link
Replying To Offside_Rule: "Why exactly do I need to grow up Wally or what brought you to that conclusion. Look again at what I said - don't give out - pity her. I didn't take any offence. You need to think before posting otherwise you will be leading people to think you are as you're moniker suggests!" Why do we need to pity this woman? Why is a slip of the tongue being naive? Why are you assuming she is narrow minded? Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 30/01/2018 21:55:41 2072599 Link
Replying To Offside_Rule: "Why exactly do I need to grow up Wally or what brought you to that conclusion. Look again at what I said - don't give out - pity her. I didn't take any offence. You need to think before posting otherwise you will be leading people to think you are as you're moniker suggests!" Can you answer my question below please. Can you honestly say that if you were a news commentator and you were commentating on a unionist sport that you wouldn't refer to the county as Derry? Would you use the term Londonderry just so that you wouldn't offend your unionist neighbours? If you did refer to Londonderry as Derry should the unionist community pity you? Should we assume that you are narrow minded? Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 30/01/2018 21:57:52 2072600 Link
I'm very much me lol. Those around me tell me,often, that when they made me they broke the mould. My ego couldn't stand sharing the limelight with any other, real or not. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 30/01/2018 21:58:15 2072601 Link
Replying To why: "Have you actually ever experienced any of that? Of course you're going to say you did because you know you wont have to back it up" Sadly yes. North Belfast, South Antrim and South Derry bore the brunt of the sectarian attacks against the GAA in the North. Ardoyne, St. Enda's, Bellaghy all had members murdered by Loyalists, pipe bombs hung on their gates, pitches studded with glass and countless attacks threats from UVF/UDA, RUC and British Army. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 30/01/2018 22:05:48 2072602 Link
Replying To Wally: "Why do we need to pity this woman? Why is a slip of the tongue being naive? Why are you assuming she is narrow minded?" Well as a presenter I would have thought reading is a basic requirement would you not have thought? Not fit for purpose whatever her motives were or weren't. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/01/2018 22:21:11 2072613 Link
Replying To Wally: "Can you answer my question below please. Can you honestly say that if you were a news commentator and you were commentating on a unionist sport that you wouldn't refer to the county as Derry? Would you use the term Londonderry just so that you wouldn't offend your unionist neighbours? If you did refer to Londonderry as Derry should the unionist community pity you? Should we assume that you are narrow minded?" I would honestly read what was put in front of me if that was my job. I would be professional enough to leave my personal thoughts or opinions at the door on the way in. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/01/2018 22:22:38 2072615 Link
The ignorance, shown in many of the comments here, of the problems faced by Northern nationalists and Gaels in trying to achieve parity of esteem is breathtaking. You have a situation, where on a supposedly neutral broadcaster that knows the sensitivities and political connotations of the use of certain language, a presenter gets a written script and deviates from it to use a term that is clearly provocative. Remember Jerome Quinn, the BBC GAA sports presenter who was sacked because he had supposedly "compromised his impartiality" by criticising the BBC online for being biased (all subsequent evidence indicates that he was dead right). It's very hard to believe that this presenter wasn't equally compromising her impartiality and, as such, should be appropriately reprimanded. CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 104 - 30/01/2018 22:52:28 2072633 Link
If the sports presenter deviated from a prepared written script that originally said Derry and changed it to Londonderry then that was a deliberate act intended to put forward a certain political point of view. That changes the dynamic and goes against the so called neutrality ethos the BBC so often quotes. The GAA should seek clarity on this. As an aside what happened to Jerome Quinn for speaking the truth was scandalous. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 30/01/2018 23:03:37 2072640 Link
Replying To CeachtPeile: "The ignorance, shown in many of the comments here, of the problems faced by Northern nationalists and Gaels in trying to achieve parity of esteem is breathtaking. You have a situation, where on a supposedly neutral broadcaster that knows the sensitivities and political connotations of the use of certain language, a presenter gets a written script and deviates from it to use a term that is clearly provocative. Remember Jerome Quinn, the BBC GAA sports presenter who was sacked because he had supposedly "compromised his impartiality" by criticising the BBC online for being biased (all subsequent evidence indicates that he was dead right). It's very hard to believe that this presenter wasn't equally compromising her impartiality and, as such, should be appropriately reprimanded." Spot on. People are happier throwing madey-uppey stuff than just dealing with what is plain to see for any rational thinking person. But sure it's us who are narrow minded, bigoted insular heurs so it is so it is...... now, where's me prodding boots? Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/01/2018 23:09:19 2072641 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "If the sports presenter deviated from a prepared written script that originally said Derry and changed it to Londonderry then that was a deliberate act intended to put forward a certain political point of view. That changes the dynamic and goes against the so called neutrality ethos the BBC so often quotes. The GAA should seek clarity on this. As an aside what happened to Jerome Quinn for speaking the truth was scandalous." I don't think she needs to be brought to task on it to be honest - apart from a quiet word about deviating from script. I wouldn't be that precious about something that was down to an individual's choice as opposed to the Corporation. It was the nativity on here got me to be honest. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 30/01/2018 23:14:26 2072644 Link
Yes well many people "down South" here get worked up when the English media call Katie Taylor or other successful Irish sports stars British so that's something to keep in mind. If that BBC reporter deliberately called the team Londonderry (as I have no doubt that she did) she should be reprimanded. But on a wider note, nationalists in the north need to look in the mirror too with their ridiculous insistence on an Irish language act. I am in favour of the Irish language and speak it (not very well) whenever I get a chance but there is definitely a fair degree of rubbing the unionists noses in it with this demand. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 31/01/2018 07:45:46 2072671 Link
Replying To Offside_Rule: "I don't think she needs to be brought to task on it to be honest - apart from a quiet word about deviating from script. I wouldn't be that precious about something that was down to an individual's choice as opposed to the Corporation. It was the nativity on here got me to be honest." Ah come on everyone loves Christmas. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 31/01/2018 09:20:19 2072689 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Yes well many people "down South" here get worked up when the English media call Katie Taylor or other successful Irish sports stars British so that's something to keep in mind. If that BBC reporter deliberately called the team Londonderry (as I have no doubt that she did) she should be reprimanded. But on a wider note, nationalists in the north need to look in the mirror too with their ridiculous insistence on an Irish language act. I am in favour of the Irish language and speak it (not very well) whenever I get a chance but there is definitely a fair degree of rubbing the unionists noses in it with this demand." You should really stop getting your information from RTE and the Indo. If you really knew about the North you would realise that the Irish Language Act issue is more to do with equality than anything else. It is about implementing the Good Friday and St. Andrew's Agreements and no NEW demands or issues. Furthermore Scotland has a Scottish Language Act, Wales has one. If Unionists claim they are British and want to be treated as other British people they would should have on opposition to an Irish Language Act for the North of Ireland. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 31/01/2018 09:25:58 2072693 Link