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Inequality in County Funding

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The simple fact is professional sports in the USA are fairer to the smaller market teams by using a draft system and salary cap.
In our great "Amateur" organisation the GAA pumps the most money into the cities and counties that have the biggest resources. This should be the opposite in our organisation. We should be supporting the weak to try to make a fair competition.

Our championships should be designed to keep all counties playing in the summer.
Smaller counties should have the big stadia and host the big matches.
Funding should be greater in those counties that are weaker.
All sponshorship should be pooled and spread out evenly.

In what other sport in the world does the biggest population centre have only one team? Get to play all their matches at home in a stadium funded by the other counties? Get the biggest amount of funds and grants from the organising body? Free centre of excellence?

Everything is tilted in dublins favour at present. The fact is they should be winning everything every year because the whole thing is designed for Dublin to succeed."
Your argument is idealistic but fatally flawed I'm afraid. What motivation would a county have to raise sponsorhip if they had to give a large chunk of it way to the competition? There'd be less money in the GAA. By your rationale countries with the biggest population should be dominating soccer (I use soccer as it is the biggest sport in the world) and Dublin would be picking up AI Hurling titles on a regular basis (Kilkenny pop: 95,000). Of the top 10 countries by population in the world only Brazil have ever even competed in a WC Final

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 22/07/2017 11:08:05    2020826

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Although funding does need to be spread out more, the reality is that many counties problems are that they have incompetent county boards. Most counties don't even have a set way of playing football at all grades. I know in my own county, the amount of mistakes made, could fill a book. The top counties may have far more money available, but they are also doing things the right way, which cant be said for many of the weaker counties.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1655 - 22/07/2017 12:24:27    2020855

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Replying To WW9:  "I seen a picture of a list of funding giving to counties, doing the rounds on facebook.

It's no wonder Dublin are miles ahead of the pack will the money they've received, 13,850,817 between 2007-2015, last year they recived 1.46 million, 14% of gaa development fund, Dublin also has 4 million sponsorship with AIG, along with 12 other official partners, In 2015 Dublin spent 1,556,075 on running it's senior football and hurling teams, the footballers have 25 man strong backroom team (probably more then some counties have at training), to be fair to the hurlers they've a average backroom team of around 6 or 7.

On the other end of the scale is wicklow, many now claiming it's the worst county team in the country, they didn't even make it onto the list of funding, In 2016 Wicklow revived 164,000 the 11th heighest but to be be split amongst two senior teams and improving underage teams it wouldn't go to far, Between both sponsorships, Joule and W.H Scott, probably receive about 40,000 if even that much, I'm not 100% on that info,im just going on what I heard, In 2015 Wicklow spent 277,000 on its senior teams,

It's no wonder the gap keeps growing how can counties ever catch up, when there is that much inequality.

The GAA needs have a serious look at its allocation of funding and also providing weaker counties with additional funding to help bridge the gap, which is ruining the game both nationally, as the championship is almost predictable at this stage but also within the county as more and more kids loose interest due to poor structure, treatment or because let's face it children will go where they will be successful.

This is not a hate against the dubs post, it was just to show the inequality in funds available to counties."
For the love of God.......please make it stop!

Yeah...... its all Dublins fault!

Anybody with a brain will know Dublin is underfunded. But sadly these boards are agenda driven. So lets all blame Dublin. If Dublin withdrew teams from the Leinster and All Ireland series for a decade, 3 trends would emerge. 1......less money for EVERYBODY. 2......Kerry and Kilkenny would hoover up All Irelands. 3.......the smaller counties, without money, would have less money and still cant compete.

But......sure its all Dublins fault.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 22/07/2017 12:35:30    2020861

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Replying To JayP:  "For the love of God.......please make it stop!

Yeah...... its all Dublins fault!

Anybody with a brain will know Dublin is underfunded. But sadly these boards are agenda driven. So lets all blame Dublin. If Dublin withdrew teams from the Leinster and All Ireland series for a decade, 3 trends would emerge. 1......less money for EVERYBODY. 2......Kerry and Kilkenny would hoover up All Irelands. 3.......the smaller counties, without money, would have less money and still cant compete.

But......sure its all Dublins fault."
The truth is obviously hurting there.
It's not dublins fault it's the fault of the GAA that has pumped money in to Dublin to spread the game but forgot to plan for the day when Gaelic football would become the biggest sport in Dublin.
Here are a few facts for you:
Dublin has bigger playing numbers (both under age and adult than the province of Connaught.
It gets the same funding from central funds as the entire province of Connaught.
It has a significantly larger population than Connaught and this will continue for the foreseeable future.
Their 16 senior clubs are stronger than the top 16 senior clubs in Connaught.

Face the reality - if the GAA were to operate as other sports do - Dublin would be treated the same as a province, never mind split in two.

They could easily field 5 county teams (like Connaught) and have 5 county championships of a standard 50% of counties would struggle to match.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 22/07/2017 14:29:41    2020919

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"money doesn't kick the ball over the Bar"

No problem lads. If you don't mind just send the 13m you'll spend for the next 10 years over to meath. And that's only the money the gaa gives you.

"look at Dublin hurlers"

they are in a far far better position now then 10 years ago. Their current team is in a lull but that's not helped by some top hurlers not committing to the squad. You won the all Ireland club this year and continue to do alright at underage. Dublin hurling has a bright future thanks to the funding. Let's not kid ourselves.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 22/07/2017 23:07:36    2021295

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