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Replying To s goldrick:  "unbelievable ! . We beat a poor Monaghan side and suddenly we can dismiss Armagh. Armagh will beat us if we start thinking like that (they will probably beat us anyway). 1.13 will not beat Armagh. We need to be scoring more.
Conroy needs to be on and taking frees from the left."
Ohhhhhh! Fredflint will be along any minute now to throw names at you for your negativity.

C'mon Fred, the forum needs policing, where are you?

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 342 - 22/05/2019 09:39:21    2186528

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It's hard to know how good we were against Monaghan or how bad they were. Looking back at the highlights again we won comfortable enough. We looked nervy with the big lead but when they got within 3 points of us we upped a gear. I expected a lot more from them but in fairness they seem to be struggling badly since the opening day of the league. McManus looked off as well. Again was it us that shackled him or is he in a dip of form?
It's all immaterial and we'll find out soon enough where we're at. But we have played higher division football than Armagh and have beaten a more illustrious opponent so we should definitely be favourites. That's not something that should worry us or cause us to go in over confident. It is what it is. It's the managers job to have the team in the right frame of mind, prepared properly and to hit the ground running the next match. And they have to be targeting a win. What Armagh do is their business and if they get a run on us early we will need to react accordingly. And some of our fans getting over excited shouldn't have any effect on the team either.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 22/05/2019 12:26:11    2186588

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Still buzzing off Saturday, yes its just one game but was a massive monkey off the back beating one of the top 6 at last.
A lot of credit must go to Graham who had them extremely well set up, every player seemed confident in what their role was, a lot of the plaudits rightly going to Martin Reilly, Faulkner and Jason.

Anyways, time to turn attention to Armagh, the key now is to display some consistency and put back to back performances together, both teams will fancy their chances of getting to an ulster final.
They present a different challenge to Monaghan, they possess 4 top class scoring forwards in Clarke, Rian O'Neill, Campbell and Murnin. There arent many counties with that level of talent in the forwards, however they are very poor in defence and in goals.

Those posters advising Graham to start planning for Tyrone must be on the wind-up, Cavan must give all their attention to Armagh, we are in no position to be looking past any opposition.
Aside from that i for one think that Donegal are going to beat Tyrone in the other semi-final anyway so planning now for Tyrone could be a waste anyway

Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 57 - 22/05/2019 12:28:33    2186589

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Just had a look at the highlights of the game and one photo shot that stood out for me was the shot of Mickey Graham on the line near the end of the game and the sheer passion in his eyes.
Something that's been missing for some time.
Well done Mickey brought some pride back into Cavan football.

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 84 - 22/05/2019 12:35:06    2186591

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The Monaghan page is hilarious. Someone believes Cavan put the dog on the field on purpose.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1459 - 23/05/2019 11:20:55    2186824

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Tactics in the first half were spot on, every player did what they are asked to, some brilliant passing and movement and then some fantastic scores to top it all off. We were by far the better team in the first half, and we stopped Monaghan from playing. It was like the managers work over the last few months finally clicked into place. Having said that, Monaghan were not at the races, Darren Hughes was a big loss to them and some of their stars didnt perform, maybe they had an off day or maybe Cavan just nullified them.

The 2nd half was a different game, we let Monaghan back into it, some of our first half performers faded and was concerning at the time, but we managed to get a few scores to keep us ahead. Had the penalty been disallowed, we may have been looking at a totally different ball game.

Next up is Armagh, and whilst we should treat them with the utmost of respect, we should be going into this game with confidence and belief that an Ulster Final is certainly possible. Havent seen much of Armagh, they have a decent midfield and forward line, suspect in defence, but its a Championship game and they will be as confident as us.

If we do reach an Ulster Final, it will be some achievement, but if we want to win it, we need to perform for 70 minutes. Donegal or Tyrone wont start sluggishly and will punish us if we slack off at any stage.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 23/05/2019 11:25:43    2186826

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "The Monaghan page is hilarious. Someone believes Cavan put the dog on the field on purpose."
A few complaints about some of the donkeys Malachy O'Rourke sent onto the field too!!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3620 - 23/05/2019 13:13:43    2186867

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The Armagh game has a lot of importance. Cavan needs to be in the Ulster final , Cavan needs to follow a win with a win , to show that beating Monaghan wasn't a waste. The excuse of there young is gone , this is the lads time to shine

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 261 - 24/05/2019 22:35:42    2187214

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Replying To cavanman47:  "A few complaints about some of the donkeys Malachy O'Rourke sent onto the field too!!"
No need for derogatory comments about players, who, if you have any appreciation of the game & the commitment required, you wouldn't come out with such a disparaging statement. Respect for the game should equal respect for the players & their families who give of their time to entertain you & I. Shame on you.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 668 - 24/05/2019 22:38:42    2187215

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Replying To Pullhard1985:  "Still buzzing off Saturday, yes its just one game but was a massive monkey off the back beating one of the top 6 at last.
A lot of credit must go to Graham who had them extremely well set up, every player seemed confident in what their role was, a lot of the plaudits rightly going to Martin Reilly, Faulkner and Jason.

Anyways, time to turn attention to Armagh, the key now is to display some consistency and put back to back performances together, both teams will fancy their chances of getting to an ulster final.
They present a different challenge to Monaghan, they possess 4 top class scoring forwards in Clarke, Rian O'Neill, Campbell and Murnin. There arent many counties with that level of talent in the forwards, however they are very poor in defence and in goals.

Those posters advising Graham to start planning for Tyrone must be on the wind-up, Cavan must give all their attention to Armagh, we are in no position to be looking past any opposition.
Aside from that i for one think that Donegal are going to beat Tyrone in the other semi-final anyway so planning now for Tyrone could be a waste anyway"
Are you watching BBC2 this evening?
Antrim are hopeless but the scale of the challenge we face in an Ulster Final is clear. Start planni nhg now

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 427 - 25/05/2019 18:40:30    2187321

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Sorry ' possible Ulster final'
Freudian error there

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 427 - 25/05/2019 19:07:31    2187325

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Replying To greysoil:  "No need for derogatory comments about players, who, if you have any appreciation of the game & the commitment required, you wouldn't come out with such a disparaging statement. Respect for the game should equal respect for the players & their families who give of their time to entertain you & I. Shame on you."
100% agree
All slagging aside, to describe players in that way is crass and ignorant.
Monaghan and the manager have delivered, Monaghan and Cavan players are dedicated players and we should respect their efforts.

Setantawatchl (Cavan) - Posts: 108 - 27/05/2019 02:39:03    2187933

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Replying To greysoil:  "No need for derogatory comments about players, who, if you have any appreciation of the game & the commitment required, you wouldn't come out with such a disparaging statement. Respect for the game should equal respect for the players & their families who give of their time to entertain you & I. Shame on you."
Must apologise for some of the derogatory remarks made.
Monaghan are a good team and it's taken us over 30 years to beat them.
If we can reach an Ulster Final and prove that beating Monaghan wasn't a flash in the pan that'll do me.

Virginia (Cavan) - Posts: 84 - 28/05/2019 07:03:48    2188387

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Replying To Virginia:  "Must apologise for some of the derogatory remarks made.
Monaghan are a good team and it's taken us over 30 years to beat them.
If we can reach an Ulster Final and prove that beating Monaghan wasn't a flash in the pan that'll do me."
It definitely hasnt taken us over 30 years to beat them!!

Breffni81 (Cavan) - Posts: 163 - 28/05/2019 09:37:51    2188406

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Replying To Virginia:  "Must apologise for some of the derogatory remarks made.
Monaghan are a good team and it's taken us over 30 years to beat them.
If we can reach an Ulster Final and prove that beating Monaghan wasn't a flash in the pan that'll do me."
Beat them at home in 30 years that is, not in all Championship games. We beat them in 2001 I believe

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 938 - 28/05/2019 10:27:33    2188427

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Thoughts on the Armagh game.

A bit nervy about the extra firepower they have over us. Again we are probably relying on Gearoid, McVeety and Niall chipping in with 2 or 3 each, and maybe Martin Reilly creating a goal with an ambitious foot pass.

I think what is certain is that their inside forwards and scoring forwards will outscore us. But what is different to the Monaghan game is that Armagh's defence is definitely worse than ours, and also that we know at least some of them like Faulkner, can shut out classy operators like McManus who was better than any of Armagh's forwards.

The unknown is that they look like they have 3 or 4 classy forwards and can we keep them all relatively quiet or quiet enough to outscore them? I'm not sure of that..

The other is just how bad Armagh's defence will be or can it improve much past the relative anarchy they let unfold for periods against Down. They will also have better midfield competitors for long kickouts than Monaghan had as well. Although we are not weak there..

While I now have faith in our lads producing a c'ship performance, and in producing another performance similar to the last day (which will definitely put us right in the game), I would still be a small bit wary of Armagh's attack.

Prediction: Cavan 2-12 Armagh 1-15

And into another extra time lottery.. I think it's ET if it's a draw anyway..?

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 173 - 28/05/2019 14:48:40    2188527

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Im finding this game too close to call, if you had asked me any others time in the last few years i would have confidently picked Cavan over Armagh but for the first time in a long time they have all their attacking aces back at once.

Clarke, Murnin, Grugan, Campbell, Rian O'Neill is a formidable attack, unreal scoring power and the fact they are all so good means you probably cant do a double marking job on somebody like clarke.

Having said that, they remain shambolic at the back, we should be looking to plunder 2 or 3 goals against them, would like to see Mackey or Caoimhin in for the goal threat early

Cavan have a more solid look to them so im picking them to take it by 2 points in a high scoring one.

Cavan 2-14 Armagh 1-15

Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 57 - 29/05/2019 09:25:06    2188727

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Im finding this game too close to call, if you had asked me any others time in the last few years i would have confidently picked Cavan over Armagh but for the first time in a long time they have all their attacking aces back at once.

Clarke, Murnin, Grugan, Campbell, Rian O'Neill is a formidable attack, unreal scoring power and the fact they are all so good means you probably cant do a double marking job on somebody like clarke.

Having said that, they remain shambolic at the back, we should be looking to plunder 2 or 3 goals against them, would like to see Mackey or Caoimhin in for the goal threat early

Cavan have a more solid look to them so im picking them to take it by 2 points in a high scoring one.

Cavan 2-14 Armagh 1-15

Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 57 - 29/05/2019 09:36:57    2188735

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Think some of you may be hyping up Armagh way too much. If these forwards were so good, then why are they a division 3/2 team these past number of years? Our defence is quite good, I can't see the Armagh forwards getting much change out of Faulkner, McLoughlin and Brady.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 342 - 29/05/2019 10:04:26    2188742

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Replying To Cavan_Shambles:  "Think some of you may be hyping up Armagh way too much. If these forwards were so good, then why are they a division 3/2 team these past number of years? Our defence is quite good, I can't see the Armagh forwards getting much change out of Faulkner, McLoughlin and Brady."
Well Armagh look okay but hard to judge them as they a division 3 team played Down and Down put up a good show with 14 men BUT off course championship is a different story. I had a chat with an Armagh man yesterday and he feels they are underdogs but having said that he was happy with their midfield and their forward line, his prediction a 4 point win for Armagh, you would expect that off course being from Armagh.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4495 - 29/05/2019 13:48:13    2188827

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