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Money Grabbing Gareth Brooks

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Replying To Square_B:  "Stick to the GAA Barney... we don't need xenophobia round here."
Indeed we do not.

which again is why your really ought to book a weekend in St. Denis or one of those Yorkshire cities where you can experience the melting pot in all its glory.

They hate one another, never mid the indigenous peoples!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2517 - 06/12/2021 11:41:36    2391827

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@KillingFields:-
Croke Park isnt empty for large parts of the year though. Its used year round with the meetings and events and then the museum every day getting loads in the doors making money.

Croke Park is primarily a stadium to hold crowds of up to 80,000 people. Its primary assets are the stands and terracing to accommodate such crowds. With the new condensed inter-county calendar, there will be several months of the year when its primary assets aren't being used for gaelic games, and therefore the potential is there to use them for other events such as concerts.

Hope that's specific enough for you now. :)

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2226 - 06/12/2021 13:05:29    2391847

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Indeed we do not.

which again is why your really ought to book a weekend in St. Denis or one of those Yorkshire cities where you can experience the melting pot in all its glory.

They hate one another, never mid the indigenous peoples!"
Why bring it up so Barney? As I've said we don't need the xenophobia round here.... nor do we need 'Dog whistling' either for that matter.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 06/12/2021 15:36:33    2391875

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "@KillingFields:-
Croke Park isnt empty for large parts of the year though. Its used year round with the meetings and events and then the museum every day getting loads in the doors making money.

Croke Park is primarily a stadium to hold crowds of up to 80,000 people. Its primary assets are the stands and terracing to accommodate such crowds. With the new condensed inter-county calendar, there will be several months of the year when its primary assets aren't being used for gaelic games, and therefore the potential is there to use them for other events such as concerts.

Hope that's specific enough for you now. :)"
Its main focus is on the matches but theres is a very substantial meetings, conferences/events as well as tours business and theyre used every day/week. Saying Croke Park is empty is simply false. Croke Park is a multi use events venue used extensively year round
meetings, conferences make money year round be it the corporate boxes etc or premium rooms as theyre used on non match days the assets of stands and terracing dont make any money when no crowds to full them

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 07/12/2021 09:54:44    2391940

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@KillingFields:

I don't know why you're arguing with me when you actually agree with me -you write "the assets of stands and terracing dont make any money when no crowds to full them" (sic)

So, let me re-phrase my own bit one more time: The stands and terraces at Croke Park are empty for long periods throughout the year.

Hopefully we can move on now. :)

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2226 - 07/12/2021 10:52:31    2391952

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "@KillingFields:

I don't know why you're arguing with me when you actually agree with me -you write "the assets of stands and terracing dont make any money when no crowds to full them" (sic)

So, let me re-phrase my own bit one more time: The stands and terraces at Croke Park are empty for long periods throughout the year.

Hopefully we can move on now. :)"
you keep saying the seats are empty for large parts of year as if its an issue. it isnt as financially croke park will make more than enough with its meeting rooms, spaces, conference rooms etc

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 07/12/2021 14:25:25    2391995

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Replying To KillingFields:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "@KillingFields:

I don't know why you're arguing with me when you actually agree with me -you write "the assets of stands and terracing dont make any money when no crowds to full them" (sic)

So, let me re-phrase my own bit one more time: The stands and terraces at Croke Park are empty for long periods throughout the year.

Hopefully we can move on now. :)"
you keep saying the seats are empty for large parts of year as if its an issue. it isnt as financially croke park will make more than enough with its meeting rooms, spaces, conference rooms etc"
Well, you're partly correct, in that I've had to point out more than once (and explain in greater detail than I would have thought necessary) that the stands and terracing are empty for large parts of the year.

However, I never claimed that's an issue. My original point was simply to say that as the condensed inter-county calendar means that the stands & terracing will no longer be used to host large match crowds during August and September, there will be more opportunities to host concerts there instead, as an additional income stream.

I never suggested that Croke Park will have to hold concerts in order to make up a financial shortfall, and nor did I ever suggest that there are no other income streams there.

Hopefully THIS time we can move on. :)

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2226 - 07/12/2021 15:42:42    2392003

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "@KillingFields:

I don't know why you're arguing with me when you actually agree with me -you write "the assets of stands and terracing dont make any money when no crowds to full them" (sic)

So, let me re-phrase my own bit one more time: The stands and terraces at Croke Park are empty for long periods throughout the year.

Hopefully we can move on now. :)"
you keep saying the seats are empty for large parts of year as if its an issue. it isnt as financially croke park will make more than enough with its meeting rooms, spaces, conference rooms etc"
Well, you're partly correct, in that I've had to point out more than once (and explain in greater detail than I would have thought necessary) that the stands and terracing are empty for large parts of the year.

However, I never claimed that's an issue. My original point was simply to say that as the condensed inter-county calendar means that the stands & terracing will no longer be used to host large match crowds during August and September, there will be more opportunities to host concerts there instead, as an additional income stream.

I never suggested that Croke Park will have to hold concerts in order to make up a financial shortfall, and nor did I ever suggest that there are no other income streams there.

Hopefully THIS time we can move on. :)"]They will be used enough at other times though and the condensed inter county season will still see games in August..
and still doesnt mean that there will be more opportunities to host concerts considering there is concerns of people living nearby and the mens inter county games are not the last finals/games to be played in croke park any year.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 07/12/2021 16:22:54    2392008

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Ah look, boss. You can argue that black is white if you want to. Fact of the matter is that both senior All-Ireland finals are to be played in July next year. Only way there'll be a men's match in Croke Park in August is if the football final goes to a replay.

Under the old way, August/September would bring possibly a football quarter final (or Super 8s) match or two, and definitely two hurling semi-finals, two football semi-finals, the hurling final, and the football final. That gives at least six and possibly as many as eight possible dates where you could hold a concert or other event now, but where you couldn't in the past because the ground would have been in use for a match instead.

The fact that there'll still be camogie and ladies football there in August & September makes no difference to what I'm saying, because you couldn't have held a concert on those days in the past anyway.

Likewise, the fact that local residents may have concerns or that there may be other associated issues make no difference either to the bare simple calendar-based fact that there will now be more dates with the potential to host a concert, since there won't be as many matches being played there at that time of year.

Let me emphasise even more for you: I'm not saying that there should or will be more concerts. I'm simply pointing out there will be more dates with potential to host a concert, if anybody wishes to consider staging one, despite all that entails.

Hopefully you understand now. Either way, I'm done with this discussion. None so blind as those who won't see, and none so deaf as those who won't hear.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2226 - 07/12/2021 16:46:17    2392016

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Haven't read all the posts so may have already been printed out- it GARTH Brooks not Gareth!!

FiorDunach (Down) - Posts: 72 - 07/12/2021 16:55:14    2392018

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Holding 5 concerts in a row can hardly be good for the pitch regardless of the covers over it or not.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 07/12/2021 19:03:29    2392031

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Replying To Square_B:  "Why bring it up so Barney? As I've said we don't need the xenophobia round here.... nor do we need 'Dog whistling' either for that matter."
The only one trained like a whipped pup is yourself.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2517 - 07/12/2021 21:32:19    2392039

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "The only one trained like a whipped pup is yourself."
Deflection is all you know about isn't Barney? We definatly know what you are anyhow... you should be ashamed of yourself. Thank God relics like yourself are a dying breed. Now... don't bother me again with your xenophobic nonsense.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 08/12/2021 12:17:57    2392075

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Replying To Square_B:  "Deflection is all you know about isn't Barney? We definatly know what you are anyhow... you should be ashamed of yourself. Thank God relics like yourself are a dying breed. Now... don't bother me again with your xenophobic nonsense."
Lol, sure, 50 years from now we'll all be holding hands dancing around a rainbow

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1697 - 08/12/2021 12:48:55    2392081

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Lol, sure, 50 years from now we'll all be holding hands dancing around a rainbow"
What are you scuttering about? Jog on like a good fellow.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 08/12/2021 13:34:40    2392091

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Replying To Square_B:  "Deflection is all you know about isn't Barney? We definatly know what you are anyhow... you should be ashamed of yourself. Thank God relics like yourself are a dying breed. Now... don't bother me again with your xenophobic nonsense."
Methinks you protest too much. A bit like the Victorian missionaries who thought that other races are all innocent children to be patronised and looked after. They are laughing all the way to the bank at the likes of yourself.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2517 - 08/12/2021 20:59:31    2392135

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Replying To Bon:  "Holding 5 concerts in a row can hardly be good for the pitch regardless of the covers over it or not."
The Munster semifinal between Cork and Kerry was supposed to be played in PUC in May but itll have to be moved to another venue now because Ed sherran is playing there and they have to dig up the pitch.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 09/12/2021 10:48:51    2392161

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Methinks you protest too much. A bit like the Victorian missionaries who thought that other races are all innocent children to be patronised and looked after. They are laughing all the way to the bank at the likes of yourself."
You can deflect all you like but we all know what you are. Shame on you. I hope you're not a member of any GAA club or involved with any juvenile teams for that matter. We don't need gombeens like you at any level in the GAA.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 09/12/2021 12:32:48    2392183

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "The Munster semifinal between Cork and Kerry was supposed to be played in PUC in May but itll have to be moved to another venue now because Ed sherran is playing there and they have to dig up the pitch."
That says it all. Generations did not voluntarily build up our association for this sort of nonsense.

Let's hope final doesn't clash with some "cultural" event :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2517 - 10/12/2021 08:40:07    2392257

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Peter Aiken and Croke Park are the money grabbers not Garth Brooks, that said the objections are mounting up to Brook's and Sheerings gig's, it's being put out there now that there are a couple more in the pipe line, it's said Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band are being lined up for a Croke Park date next summer..

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 16/12/2021 10:08:18    2392986

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