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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 10 Like(s)
Replying To Onion Breath: "Rubbish. The vast majority of people don't recognise that name, unlike the democratically accepted state of Northern Ireland." Northern Ireland was created on a sectarian headcount by the British Government, against the wishes of the majority in Ireland. The 6 counties, contained a Unioinist majority, 9 counties would have a nationalist majority, less than 6 would be unviable. For 50 years unionists practised discrimination, and gerrymandering against the Catholic community, with the UK government oblivious to the practice.
In 1968 it blew out in their faces, and it took 30 years to bring about a society, where all were treated equally. There are a few who oppose any semblance of normality still, try DUP, TUV, UFF etc.
The GAA are a 32 county organisation who ignore the border, and whose members north of it, kept the games alive in the face of opposition, insults, intimidation and death. I have no problem with that.
There are more important things to occupy your mind presently than some linguistic argument over GAA language.
MicktheMiller (National) - 17/04/2021 20:36:19
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Tradition - 8 Like(s)
Replying To MesAmis: "You were drawing a false equivalent though. That's what my post is about.
You implied that the 'Woke and permanently offended' hold the type of power in modern Ireland that the Catholic Church held in Ireland in times past. Which is plainly ridiculous and untrue." Get real. They have a huge influence in the media, and society. Most of them wouldn't know their anus from their elbow.
MicktheMiller (National) - 14/01/2021 14:17:57
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Tradition - 7 Like(s)
Replying To skillet: "You disagree with me, that's fine but I think you're in complete denial about the reality of Irish society now.
In my experience, the intolerance in this country is breathtaking.. Its a lot more subtle than the Catholic Church in its heyday but equally as vindictive..its just at the opposite end of the spectrum now.
Look at the vitriol the likes of Ronan Mullen gets,
In fact Ask anyone whose voiced an opinion that doesn't fit the all encompassing Liberal ideology..
There's an agenda at work, that if you disagree with it you suffer.
In essence one form of intolerance has replaced another.." The so called liberal agenda don't allow for any opposition. We have them on here.
MicktheMiller (National) - 14/01/2021 16:57:10
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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 6 Like(s)
Replying To bloodyban: "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!" Nice revisionist line, always knew you were a partitionist.
MicktheMiller (National) - 25/08/2020 17:26:57
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Railway Cup- Revamp - 5 Like(s)
That train has left the station, The Railway Cups are a thing of the past, Gaelic games are televised nowadays, the stars are there on telly on big match days. I can't see any desire to restore them.
The days when players from the smaller counties, got a chance to play in Croke Park, with players from the stronger teams were the highlight of the Railway Cups. Society has moved on too, a lot more choices for people to spend their leisure time.
I note some of the posters on this topic, are from outside Ireland, have you seen the Railway Cup games in their heyday?
MicktheMiller (National) - 18/09/2021 19:09:37
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Dublin Cute Hoorism - 5 Like(s)
Replying To AfricanGael: "If Kerry had the population of Dublin, no other team would ever win the All-Ireland, so the pressure is all on Dublin to keep winning and prove to everyone that they never actually bought success, needed any particular ref, had to engage in cynical play or have to use Croke Park as their home to achieve their goals. That in itself is a motivator." Kerry didn't buy success, they were in a mainly hurling province, which helped their provincial championship, compared to the other provinces. They had some very good players over the years. Dublin did not buy success, they developed their underage structures, producing excellent players, and are now the dominant team in Leinster, not ideal for the provincial championship, and possibly Ireland. Other counties are striving to reach Dublin's level, and overcome them.
MicktheMiller (National) - 23/04/2021 14:29:10
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GAA on TV - 4 Like(s)
Replying To GreenandRed: "Fair point, there are many decent people within the Catholic clergy though their numbers are diminishing. And there are many decent devout Catholic lay people. They had, and still have plenty of money to provide health and education. They used their influence in education to abuse children and some of them still lie about what they saw. So it's not just an anti-church brigade that are critical of the Catholic Church. There are reasons to be critical. They're not the only religious organisation to have commuted dodgy deals either, far from it." Not every religious person abused someone in their care, teaching or whatever. There are cases of lay teachers abusing pupils, just as lay persons abused children, sometimes family members.
The big problem with the church was those in authority ignored the problem, until it exploded in their faces.
There is a plan to deal with incidents in each diocese now, and so there should be.
The bad eggs ruined things for the majority who did no wrong.
MicktheMiller (National) - 12/10/2020 22:47:52
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GAA on TV - 4 Like(s)
Replying To MesAmis: "The Catholic Church had control and power over Ireland long before Dev to be fair.
The British understood that one parish priest could do a better job than 1,000 redcoats in keeping the peasants and savages in their rightful place.
The Catholic Church has been a cancerous parasite in Ireland for hundreds of years. It may have contributed positively at times but any positive contribution made is outweighed by the bad and evil that it was its stock and trade.
Wealth, power and control were their real trinity." I don't agree with that extremist populist view, but you won't change it. What about the penal laws, the Catholic Church and people were persecuted, just for being Catholic. How can you say they had power for hundreds of years?.
MicktheMiller (National) - 14/10/2020 10:48:56
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All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo - 4 Like(s)
Replying To JayP: "Lets address a few issues here....
On the "gall" comment.....I respect every volunteer. I gave the example of Paddy Christie with Ballymun, brought two underage teams through the club from u10's to minor. 6 of the current Dublin team played under him coaching. He didn't get paid to do that. He is one of the thousands of volunteers have mentored/continue to mentor teams in Dublin. I never said volunteers weren't doing a good job anywhere else. I just said its through their hard work they've produced good players. Same as Kerry in the noughties etc etc. But these things are cyclic.
Many of the underage teams are coached by people that moved to Dublin for work etc. They settled here, and are playing a huge role in the development of underage players for their adopted clubs. They county reaps the rewards for this good coaching.
Development Grants are spent on developing things. Game Promotion Grants are spent on promoting things. Yes its true the GAA have pumped money into these things. But they are not a guarantee of success. Games promotion doesn't necessarily equal success on the pitch. As Dublin has expanded its population outwards in the county the GAA have had to spend money promoting the games in these new population centres. I don't know what people expect the GAA to do. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Actually, I would argue with anybody that unless money is spent promoting sport (any sport) and community projects by every sporting organisation and community group, we could see ghettoization in Dublin. So I would urge the GAA to spend more and develop more infrastructure in West Dublin and North County Dublin to promote the games in areas where the GAA is not a strong presence as it could be.
The trends in the GAA reflect whats going on in society. Why are so many people in Dublin? The GAA will have to react to the trends going on in society and plan accordingly.
On, Dublin fans go quiet on the funding. I never have. I argue with all the disciples of Ewan MacKenna. But I also work from 7 to 5, so I'm not available to answer instantly!!!
As you probably are aware of by now, I wouldn't be a fan of Dublin giving up any funding. Its needed for the above reasons and more. Should other counties get funded better....yeah definitely.
The top county teams are funded well enough to compete with each other. Dublin just have better players at the moment. If Dublin had lost 3 All Ireland finals this wouldn't even be an issue. Look at Kerrys 8 All Irelands in 11 years. Check out their average winning margin! It was higher than Dublins current average winning margin since 2011.
Relax, we'll get beaten lads. You'll all be happy again. But the incessant whining.....PLEASE STOP IT." Good piece JayP, lots of truth there. Maybe 2021 will see a changing of the guard. All empires, and champions, fall eventually, as we can see from history. Enjoy the success.
MicktheMiller (National) - 21/12/2020 18:28:11
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2021 Hurling Championship - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Oldtourman: "Bloodyban. Laois and Offaly were respectively called Queens and Kings County with Portleix called Maryborough and Birr called Philipborough. Both Philip and Mary were Catholic Monarchs. There was also a Catholic Plantation in North Wexford and Mrs OTMs maiden name is one of a few common there that are English names to this day." Birr was called Parsonstown, the family name of the Earls of Roses. Daingean was formerly called Philipstown, after King Philip. It was the capital of Offaly until the assizes was transferred to Tullamore in the 1820's. Tullamore is now the capital town.
Plantations involved replacing local families with foreign settlers from England, Scotland, and Wales. Not much joy for the original landowners.
MicktheMiller (National) - 04/08/2021 20:42:41
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What Can Be Done To Save Offaly Hurling - 3 Like(s)
Lots of opinions on Offaly hurling there.
Offaly had two teams in the 80's and 90's, who won national champions in all grades, except u21 hurling.
Those sides were mostly based in South Offaly, and a lot of them were students at Presentation Brothers in Birr, where they were coached by the great Br. Denis, a Corkman. 3 minor all Ireland's were won in the 80's, and provided the nucleus of the team who won 2 Senior All Irelands in 1994 and 1998.
I think the closure of the Birr school was a loss to Offaly hurling, Offaly schools have not generally been successful in recent years.
Neighbouring counties developed underage hurling and were ahead of Offaly for a number of years, good luck to those counties, the more the better for the good of hurling.
Hurling is also played in North Offaly, mostly around the greater Tullamore area, but the base needs to expand beyond South Offaly.
We have declined, due to the failure to develop underage hurling properly, when the county was successful. Offaly minor hurlers have qualified for the Leinster Final, so there are signs of progress, after the barren years.
In regard to Butterfly's comments that Offaly approached the Down game with the wrong attitude, like myself he wasn't there, so he has no idea that Offaly were arrogant beforehand. Down won, as Offaly didn't take their chances on the day. We will learn and approach each game this year with a determination to win. Offaly clubs reached two All Ireland Finals in the last decade. Offaly will compete in the Senior club championship for the foreseeable future.
I am confident that current Offaly hurling management can over the years make Offaly competitive again, but no game will be easy. Our current Chairperson, and Executive are committed to develop Offaly GAA in the future. All they can do is their best, with the backing of Offaly Gaels.
It is good to see progress in Kildare, Meath, and other counties, as hurling needs more teams.
MicktheMiller (National) - 12/02/2021 10:51:07
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Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final - 3 Like(s)
Should Mayo defender, O'Hora have been black carded for pull down on Tyrone player?
MicktheMiller (National) - 11/09/2021 17:50:50
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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 3 Like(s)
Replying To arock: "In the UK it is different to the Republic how deaths are recorded as a Covid death. My mother died of heart failure , she had Covid previously and had made a full recovery, death is heart failure, that is the way it is recorded here." Sorry to hear your mother died recently. My sympathy to your family.
MicktheMiller (National) - 30/03/2021 11:50:11
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U20 Football Final - 3 Like(s)
Replying To philip3: "This should be a good match. Dublin seem to be strong and Galway seem to have a very strong panel after the performance against Kerry and winning the Connacht title. All the talk of Dublin underage there probably be only one winner but we seem to be quietly confident here in Galway." Always liked Galway football, entertaining to watch, apart from the defensive stuff in the recent past. Galway have as big a chance as Dublin. Best wishes to the maroon brigade.
MicktheMiller (National) - 16/12/2020 11:47:58
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Crazy Decision Regarding Under 20 Football Final - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Marooning: "Only one game left. Surely they could go ahead with the match and get the competition finished. Very unfair on Dublin and Galway." Agree with you there. Play the final on Saturday as scheduled, and finish the competition. There is a lot of criticism in the media about playing the GAA championship, and completing the final round of league games.
I haven't heard anyone condemn the playing of rugby matches, or completing the remaining LOI games.
MicktheMiller (National) - 21/10/2020 19:32:55
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GAA Journalism - 3 Like(s)
Replying To sligo joe: "What has Mass got to do with it?" Should be meas, Irish for respect, or regard.
MicktheMiller (National) - 10/06/2020 21:19:04
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Bloody Sunday - 3 Like(s)
Replying To bloodyban: "I think 'unnecessary' is the right word. Northern Ireland has developed as a separate entity. Its natural political development is in its own space. I dont think Northern Ireland coming into a United Ireland is going to help anybody. Its better off getting on with things the way they are or striking g out on its own with Help from us and the rest of the UK." That's your partitionist view. Northern Ireland was created on a sectarian headcount in 1921. It suited the Bits to look after their Unionist pals, who proceeded to make an absolute mess of the place, until the civil rights movement and diplomacy by successive Irish Governments achieved an equality of treatment for all citizens there. It took a lot of effort, and the unionists resisted, some by arms, but the more far seeing ones saw the situation could not continue.
A United Ireland is a legitimate aspiration, but it will not be done by force of arms, rather force of persuasion. The Brexit fiasco could bring about unity sooner than some people think.
MicktheMiller (National) - 11/11/2020 11:35:12
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The GAA And "Northern Ireland" - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Galway9801: "100%. Very good post.
Many people on here don't seem to realise that a 32 county Ireland, and a United Ireland, are not necessarily one and the same." I think most of us do. Sorry to burst your bubble.
MicktheMiller (National) - 26/05/2021 15:30:52
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2020 Might Get Worse Yet.. - 3 Like(s)
Replying To jimbodub: "It might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back if Ireland has to watch Dublin winning 6 in a row and given the possible timing of it all, with it just before Christmas too..
You could say it would be the nightmare before Christmas for the majority!
As such I'd be willing to put my absolute selfishness aside and I'd be happy to see a team other than Dublin lift the title in 2020, so yiz can at least enjoy the build up to Christmas in what has been a bad aul year indeed
The needs of the many and all that..
So to Cork, Meath, Mayo, Galway, Donegal etc.
It's up to you to save Christmas for your rural brethren
I'm just happy it wasn't Kerry.
Best of luck" If it happens so be it. As you say, it is up to the remaining counties to try and stop Dublin. I will continue the matches during the lockdown, regardless of the eventual winners.
MicktheMiller (National) - 15/11/2020 12:40:54
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Galway V Tipperary (Gaillimh In Aghaidh Tiobraid Arann). - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Trump2020: "I hate this kind of thing as it puts a cloud over what should be a great win. Sigh." Good win by Galway. They were 6 down in the second half, but put over the points. Aidan Harte's goal clinched it. Repeat of 2018 final the next day.
MicktheMiller (National) - 21/11/2020 19:46:55
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