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Replying To eoinog: "The stands of football in Leinster is very poor. Definitely the weakest province. Only one team in Division 1 so that tells it's own story. A lot more would need to retire before Dublin would fall to the standard of the chasing pack." They are at the same standard of the chasing pack already. Wide open next year again.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 20/11/2024 11:00:31
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Replying To Fionn: "I think the travelling will give him a well earned rest, and who knows..... when he returns, he might re-consider.... ;o)
10 years is some commitment for any player to Inter County, and his decision was a hell of a lot easier, having already achieved so much." Is he leaving country? DCB statement mentions him staying on with Raheny.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3120 - 20/11/2024 12:39:14
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Replying To eoinog: "The stands of football in Leinster is very poor. Definitely the weakest province. Only one team in Division 1 so that tells it's own story. A lot more would need to retire before Dublin would fall to the standard of the chasing pack." Only for Louths injury's last year I think we could have beat Donegal last year in the 1/4 final. We have a 2 or 3 lads back who were travelling last year who probably will start and 1 who missed the whole of last season who has been playing excellent for his club who are still going in Leinster.
I don't think we will beat the Dubs but bar Dublin and Kerry, I think we will be able to beat any time in Ireland next season
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Replying To DundalkGael: "Only for Louths injury's last year I think we could have beat Donegal last year in the 1/4 final. We have a 2 or 3 lads back who were travelling last year who probably will start and 1 who missed the whole of last season who has been playing excellent for his club who are still going in Leinster.
I don't think we will beat the Dubs but bar Dublin and Kerry, I think we will be able to beat any time in Ireland next season" You are definitely doing very well and on an upward trajectory, however don't let your enthusiasm run away with ye. Throwing out a statement that you can beat anyone bar Dublin and Kerry is fairly putting yourselves under a lot of pressure before a ball is kicked.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 20/11/2024 16:55:25
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Replying To DundalkGael: "Only for Louths injury's last year I think we could have beat Donegal last year in the 1/4 final. We have a 2 or 3 lads back who were travelling last year who probably will start and 1 who missed the whole of last season who has been playing excellent for his club who are still going in Leinster.
I don't think we will beat the Dubs but bar Dublin and Kerry, I think we will be able to beat any time in Ireland next season" Dream on…..
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 20/11/2024 17:03:45
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Replying To DundalkGael: "Only for Louths injury's last year I think we could have beat Donegal last year in the 1/4 final. We have a 2 or 3 lads back who were travelling last year who probably will start and 1 who missed the whole of last season who has been playing excellent for his club who are still going in Leinster.
I don't think we will beat the Dubs but bar Dublin and Kerry, I think we will be able to beat any time in Ireland next season" Realistically Donegal were in 3rd gear that day.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1036 - 20/11/2024 17:36:38
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Will be a very interesting year for us, two colossal figures gone in Fento and Jimmy Mc. If half the rumours are true then it'll either be all of the following or some of the below to follow:
1. Cluxton
2. Fitzy
3. J. Small
4. Jack Mc
5. Mannion
6. McCarthy - Confirmed
7. Fenton - Confirmed
That is an aaaawful amount of experience and quality to head out the door at the same time. Any suggestions on what a potential starting XV would be without the above? Something along these lines? That midfield gives me the horrors though so I'd say some moving around will have to happen to get some mobility in there. Saying that if my doomsday scenario of all 7 of the above is not true then there would be a splash of quality to add in there especially with a Mannion or Small which then means we can get Howard to midfield. I actually don't think we'd be too far away even still if we had Con, Mannion in full forward with the new rules and we could get the ball to them!
O'Hanlon
McMahon/Murphy
Clancy
Byrne
Murch
Howard
Gannon
POCB
Lahiff
Scully
KK
Bugler
Small
Con
Basquel
TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 213 - 22/11/2024 10:54:33
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Replying To TrueBlue35: "Will be a very interesting year for us, two colossal figures gone in Fento and Jimmy Mc. If half the rumours are true then it'll either be all of the following or some of the below to follow:
1. Cluxton
2. Fitzy
3. J. Small
4. Jack Mc
5. Mannion
6. McCarthy - Confirmed
7. Fenton - Confirmed
That is an aaaawful amount of experience and quality to head out the door at the same time. Any suggestions on what a potential starting XV would be without the above? Something along these lines? That midfield gives me the horrors though so I'd say some moving around will have to happen to get some mobility in there. Saying that if my doomsday scenario of all 7 of the above is not true then there would be a splash of quality to add in there especially with a Mannion or Small which then means we can get Howard to midfield. I actually don't think we'd be too far away even still if we had Con, Mannion in full forward with the new rules and we could get the ball to them!
O'Hanlon
McMahon/Murphy
Clancy
Byrne
Murch
Howard
Gannon
POCB
Lahiff
Scully
KK
Bugler
Small
Con
Basquel" James Madden back from Oz, possible midfield option?
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 795 - 22/11/2024 11:52:27
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Replying To TrueBlue35: "Will be a very interesting year for us, two colossal figures gone in Fento and Jimmy Mc. If half the rumours are true then it'll either be all of the following or some of the below to follow:
1. Cluxton
2. Fitzy
3. J. Small
4. Jack Mc
5. Mannion
6. McCarthy - Confirmed
7. Fenton - Confirmed
That is an aaaawful amount of experience and quality to head out the door at the same time. Any suggestions on what a potential starting XV would be without the above? Something along these lines? That midfield gives me the horrors though so I'd say some moving around will have to happen to get some mobility in there. Saying that if my doomsday scenario of all 7 of the above is not true then there would be a splash of quality to add in there especially with a Mannion or Small which then means we can get Howard to midfield. I actually don't think we'd be too far away even still if we had Con, Mannion in full forward with the new rules and we could get the ball to them!
O'Hanlon
McMahon/Murphy
Clancy
Byrne
Murch
Howard
Gannon
POCB
Lahiff
Scully
KK
Bugler
Small
Con
Basquel" I heard the same names along with one other also. Massive amount of players in one go, if it happens....
The one that surprised me was JS tbh.
I think Paul will hang on though.
From your list below, that midfield would be miles off being competitive.
O'Hanlon
McMahon/Murphy Clancy Byrne
Murch Howard Gannon
POCB Lahiff
Scully KK Bugler
Small Con Basquel
CK would be worth a shot in midfield instead of POCB.
Another massive issue now would be, no impact from the bench. A lot of newbies will be involved more.
New team, new start, new objectives....
It really is the End of an Era...
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3981 - 22/11/2024 11:59:39
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Replying To Fionn: "I heard the same names along with one other also. Massive amount of players in one go, if it happens....
The one that surprised me was JS tbh.
I think Paul will hang on though.
From your list below, that midfield would be miles off being competitive.
O'Hanlon
McMahon/Murphy Clancy Byrne
Murch Howard Gannon
POCB Lahiff
Scully KK Bugler
Small Con Basquel
CK would be worth a shot in midfield instead of POCB.
Another massive issue now would be, no impact from the bench. A lot of newbies will be involved more.
New team, new start, new objectives....
It really is the End of an Era..." At 32 years of age you are going starting Kilkenny in midfield ..
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 22/11/2024 13:12:05
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We got to watch it all and then some lads,
All good things
There's plenty of talent still in Dublin GAA
Time now to build a new team, lots of fresh players with the mix of top end experience
Time to carve out a new identity and purpose.
I'd be happy if they managed another Sam or two this decade.
There is still plenty there to build again, great foundations.
It won't happen next year though,
Look to stay up in Div 1, introducing several players
Look to retain Leinster
Look to be as competitive as possible in the Championship, but its very even now, go as far as possible,
We got to see the lads achieve #9, the 6 in a row
Time now to enjoy a different time, when it's back to being in the pack
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Replying To sligo joe: "James Madden back from Oz, possible midfield option?" Is he back?
That would be a top option and certainly worth a serious look at, if he is up for it
Good call
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20689 - 22/11/2024 13:21:59
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Replying To eoinog: "At 32 years of age you are going starting Kilkenny in midfield .." Needs must and he is a lot better than the other player mentioned.
Not ideal but that is where we are now unfortunately.
BH can play there also of course.
Oh and I forgot to mention EOG will now be playing Football.
Madden will come back in eventually, but it will take a bit of time for him, I suspect.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3981 - 22/11/2024 13:42:30
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Replying To jimbodub: "We got to watch it all and then some lads,
All good things
There's plenty of talent still in Dublin GAA
Time now to build a new team, lots of fresh players with the mix of top end experience
Time to carve out a new identity and purpose.
I'd be happy if they managed another Sam or two this decade.
There is still plenty there to build again, great foundations.
It won't happen next year though,
Look to stay up in Div 1, introducing several players
Look to retain Leinster
Look to be as competitive as possible in the Championship, but its very even now, go as far as possible,
We got to see the lads achieve #9, the 6 in a row
Time now to enjoy a different time, when it's back to being in the pack" Exactly Jimbo.
We wont win Sam but at least try to hold on to Leinster and Div 1 status, with possibly a lot of players retiring
Having won 19 out of the last 20 Leinster SFC titles, it is no longer a certainty....
Madden will take time to bed back in imo.
But great that he is back, and of course EOD is on board now also.
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Replying To jimbodub: "Is he back?
That would be a top option and certainly worth a serious look at, if he is up for it
Good call" Eoghan O Donnell as well - great athlete and leader.
theduke66 (Dublin) - Posts: 336 - 22/11/2024 14:15:05
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Yes he is 100% back alright. It could take him time to get to the pitch of playing Gaelic Football again. We've seen it with numerous guys who come back and takes them at least 12 months to get back into the swing of things. Conor Glass took a fair while for example and Okunbor in Kerry hasn't had a sniff yet. Would be a big ask to be launched straight into the thick of it in midfield but we might have to as we are so short of quality there now with the two lads gone. McGinnis is actually a potential for midfield who I forgot to mention. Impressed me in the league last year I have to say.
I'm not sure I agree with the amount of talent in the county. I watch an awful lot of club football and I've yet to see much that would add to the current county panel. A couple of potential bolters - Luke Breathnach, Greg McEneaney, Eoghan O'Connor Flanagan and there's a couple of tidy forwards for St Mary's Saggart, Sean Jameson is one anyway but can't think of the other lad's name now. Again though its a bit of a lottery and Dessie is probably guilty of not blooding a few and getting league minutes into lads last year.
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Replying To eoinog: "At 32 years of age you are going starting Kilkenny in midfield .." Would Eoghan O' Donnell after years of top quality conditioning with the hurlers also be a midfield option for ye.
Good Roscommon genes.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 633 - 22/11/2024 14:25:37
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Replying To TrueBlue35: "Yes he is 100% back alright. It could take him time to get to the pitch of playing Gaelic Football again. We've seen it with numerous guys who come back and takes them at least 12 months to get back into the swing of things. Conor Glass took a fair while for example and Okunbor in Kerry hasn't had a sniff yet. Would be a big ask to be launched straight into the thick of it in midfield but we might have to as we are so short of quality there now with the two lads gone. McGinnis is actually a potential for midfield who I forgot to mention. Impressed me in the league last year I have to say.
I'm not sure I agree with the amount of talent in the county. I watch an awful lot of club football and I've yet to see much that would add to the current county panel. A couple of potential bolters - Luke Breathnach, Greg McEneaney, Eoghan O'Connor Flanagan and there's a couple of tidy forwards for St Mary's Saggart, Sean Jameson is one anyway but can't think of the other lad's name now. Again though its a bit of a lottery and Dessie is probably guilty of not blooding a few and getting league minutes into lads last year." Definitely no conveyor belt, that is for sure.
There never was one there to begin with.
I knew it & so did the Dublin supporters.
Losing Fento to retirement is a game changer for the Dubs imo. Irreplaceable.
The snowball effect starts now... hopefully it doesn't turn into an avalanche.... ;o(
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3981 - 22/11/2024 14:59:11
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Replying To Fionn: "Definitely no conveyor belt, that is for sure.
There never was one there to begin with.
I knew it & so did the Dublin supporters.
Losing Fento to retirement is a game changer for the Dubs imo. Irreplaceable.
The snowball effect starts now... hopefully it doesn't turn into an avalanche.... ;o(" Agree, there never was a conveyor belt, most Dubs knew this was a temporsry generational thing.
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/1122/1482502-gilroy-quits-croke-park-role-over-financial-focus/
Interesting read....
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3981 - 22/11/2024 21:48:31
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