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Fiercest Club Rivalries - 7 Like(s)

Replying To Meathmaverick:  "What way does it work in newbridge Lilywhite? Is the town split in half ? certain schools are feeder schools for each club or is it all random? Must have been a real buzz around newbridge when they met in county finals."
Meathmaverick, the division between Sarsfields and Moorefield in Newbridge is on a north south divide. So yes basically the town is split in two. Generally the border is at main street/ Charlotte Street between the Bank of Ireland on one side and a chemist on the other side and is refereed to locally jokingly as the demilitarised zone. South of that is Moorefield and north is Sarsfields. That's the general distinction but doesn't arbitrarily follow in that you would have a few Moorefield supporters in the North though they are very much a rare species. There would be more Sarsfields supporters on the Southside since the first County council houses were built the supporters were mixed but Sarsfields supporters were and still are in the minority in those housing estates. There is also the flags issue when the teams meet in a county final. This is based on the geography. From the bank corner Northwards, Sarsfields are permitted to put their flags on the lampposts, Likewise Moorefield to the South from the chemist opposite. The only exception is if a business owner wants to put up his flag he may do so, if he is inside 'enemy' territory. However to the north there is never a business with a Moorefield flag. From Charlotte Street each team is allotted one side of the street until the Railway station. Beyond that it is Sarsfields flags only as it is on the approach road to their clubhouse. The same applies to lampposts outsides the houses on the approach to the Moorefield clubhouse. These rules have evolved over the years and are rarely violated and if they are the chairmen of both clubs will sort it out between them. Certain schools act as a feeder for the teams so it's not really random . One School would provide mostly Sarsfields players but not exclusively so while a second would provide exclusively Moorefield. Leaving aside the girls secondary there is a mixed secondary but I'm not sure of the ratio from that one. Sarsfields have acquired a few players over the years from rugby playing Newbridge College. The Sarsfields heartland of Roseberry is next door to the college. No Moorefield flags ever fly there. There is an electric atmosphere on County final days when the teams meet. The rivalry is intense and sometimes bitter, but generally good natured but has been known to come to blows over the years. The nature of the rivalry is such that it divides families never mind friends. In some case it's Husband against wives, boyfriends and girlfriends, cousins against cousins brother against brothers, sisters against. Uncles and Aunts against nephews and at least in one case a father against a son. Some pubs are Sarsfields and some are Moorefield. One pub has been described as an ecumenical one where on match days members of the two tribes congregate after the game. Generally there is respect if sometimes grudging on both sides for the other. Both clubs keep each other on their toes and both have large memberships and huge nurseries every Saturday. Should both reach the championship final this year it will be particularly tense and bitter affair. Moorefield are going for three in a row, attempting to equal Sarsfields three in a row record which no other Kildare club has achieved. Without doubt both teams have been the two best in Kildare over the last 18 years. If one of them is in a county final the supporters of the other would support whoever their opponent is even if that team was the one that deprived their team of a place in the final. When one of them loses in a final the other will celebrate. Very few players in the history of both clubs have played senior for both. Therefore transfers of senior players between clubs is unheard of. It would be like a member of the DUP joining Sinn Fein or vice versa. On county final nights both teams and their supporters will go to their respective clubhouses to either celebrate or lick their wounds but the players and officials of the losing team will be invited by the winners for a drink on the Monday. Apologies if the post was a bit long but it's difficult to describe the rivalry between the two teams in a few sentences.

lilywhite1 (National) - 08/05/2019 14:25:45

Donegal's Motion Fails - 5 Like(s)
Two words for the delegates who voted down Donegal' s motion: Gutless cowards.

lilywhite1 (National) - 24/02/2019 22:13:05

Leinster Football Championship - 4 Like(s)

Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Be careful there olly according to a few kildare supporters your not allowed dream. After meath I would love to see ye win it, allot of great gaels up there in county louth."
No need for Ollie to be dreaming Royal legend. The reality is that Louth won the Leinster Championship in 2010. And well you know it.

lilywhite1 (National) - 05/05/2019 00:15:31

Tyrone V Meath Nfl Rd 1. - 4 Like(s)

Replying To Furlong1949:  "Firstly I dont go around barking at people on the forum. I think that firstly unfair to say. Regards what you are referring to about facts. I have written over 900 posts on this forum. I have written on this Meath v Tyrone thread numerous of times. You have took one paragraph out of those over 900 posts I have written. I was having a long debate with someone on the forum. At the end I used a couple of facts to back up what I said in one paragraph and I emphasised this. In the next paragraph I said here here is my opinion. This was unsual. If examine my 900 posts, I am not going around saying all this is a fact , are eveyrhing I write saying this is fact, everything I say is true , or this is gospel acording to me. I dont say that. That is very unfair and not a proper and correct representation of my posts on the board. Thats very unfair and gives a very false impression of what I am doing. Sometime I write facts , sometime I write opinions, sometimes I write my viewpoint, sometimes what I write is correct, other times its wrong. I have never gone around saying I know everything. I know a little about the history and thats it. Nothing more , nothing less. Regards the Westmeath and the league references. I write in a long winded , freestyle off the top of my head. And the posts can end up anywhere on any different topic and usually do. This particular post it was very very long one and covered many areas. Instead of writing about leinster problem with league foothall at the end I should have took time and put it in a different post. I rushed it at the end and off the top of the head I tried to go through 20 years of league divisions and I made mistakes. Its a very messy paragraph at the end. I didnt mean to forget the two years Westmeath were up , I made a mess of the end of that post. I should have took my time and think about who was in 20 years of div 1. Which is tricky. Div are changing from div 1 to 1 A Remebering a match or a player is easier. I made a few mistakes it was not intentional , I was not trying to be disrespectful to Westmeath or any other county ,in any sort of way , I just I was tried and I wanted to end a post quickly and rushed the end instead I should have done it separately and took my time. I have posted over 900 post. And I do reference allot of games and playetrs and stats and off the top off the my head . So I am going ro get a few wrong. And To be fair I have just quickly looked at my posts on this thread Meath v Tyrone . And have propaly had made over at least 350 plus refernces to games, playeres, dates ,matchs, stats, facts on this thread and vast majority of them right. Getting a couple wrong is decent enough going. I got a few wrong at the end of one long post. Thats not really a crime. I am not right all the time, I make mistakes. I am just a bogman from the backwoods of Meath football who is passionate about the gaa. I didnt mean to sound like I was being disrespectful to Westmeath. But my general knowledge of every team in div 1 in every year in thr last 20 years is patchy . I am decent on game and players and bit of general histoy. The way I write off the top of my head , long winded there is the odd mistake as jump from one different topic to another in one post. I am rushing jumping from one topic to another and it meanders and jumps back and forward in each post and in many cases I am skinming over things and flying through thinngs when really I should concentrate on one thing and do that detail. But thats the way I write. But some of the stuff is decent. Naming kildare players from 1919 All Ireland winning team.was a decent post on this thread. But I dont know everything and never pretended I did or pretended be a Mr no it all. What I say is not gospel. Never was never will be. I am surprised at times of the reaction on the forum I receive in the forum. I get allot of prajse which I am really blown away by and I do appreciate it. I get criticism as well which surprises me in that most of what I write is bland enough. I do enjoy the conversation and have a lot of time and great respect for people on the forum. I enjoy writing about the gaa but there is a reality behind all this. It is a sort of escapism for me. I am basically writing for myself. The reality is I have two very elderly sick sick parent who are living with me . I misseed the Meath match on sunday as I had to bring a parent to hospital. And I also have a serious illness myself which is a bit of a scary one to say the least. .And coming on the forum to write a long winded post I enjoy but also it takes my mind away from health issues. And how I deal with stuff is be postive and try not to think about things to much , and try and keep my mind occupied . So writing on the gaa forum is a way of doing this , taking my mind off things. And writing about something I am paasionate about I enjoy writig away a long post which could end going in any direction on any topic . So I am not writing for anyone , I am writing for myself in away. Thats the reality of the situation So I will leave it there."
Best wishes furlong on a return to full health. I have a friend who recently got the all clear and you will too with your positive outlook. when I get a chance I will put up the Kildare team of 1927/28. The same team. played in both finals I believe. I too was surprised about the couple of Meath men on the 1919 team. Hope that you can get to Navan on Sunday. We might give out about the GAA at times and each other but it's great to be part of the great GAA family. Again best wishes. Hope everything goes well for you and your own family

lilywhite1 (National) - 30/01/2020 19:31:34

Carlow vs Monaghan - 4 Like(s)

Replying To ponga:  "God knows what non-Irish people watching this are making of such comments. Wow a goal for Carlow."
Oh dear, why do we always seem to worry about what others think of us.

lilywhite1 (National) - 15/07/2017 20:40:23

NFL Division 2 - 4 Like(s)

Replying To royaldunne:  "Time will tell. Let's see what happens Sunday."
The constant thumbing down of royaldunne's comments on this forum is ridiculous. We know he can be controversial. So what he's entitled to his opinion. But even when he makes innocuous comments it's still the same. The lazy option is to thumb him down rather than engage in debate with him. He' s a passionate Meath and GAA man. We're all GAA people here on Hoganstand. A bit of virtual sportsmanship wouldn't go astray.

lilywhite1 (National) - 23/01/2019 02:33:42

Leinster Football The Reality - 4 Like(s)
With all the talk of the demise of Leinster football it's great to see that over a third of the teams remaining in the championship are from Leinster. Six Leinster teams: Dublin, Meath,Kildare, Offaly , Laois and Westmeath. Come on Leinster!

lilywhite1 (National) - 24/06/2019 12:10:06

NFL Division 2 - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Plenty of teams in this division that could if they are fit and prepared right reach the super 8s this summer. Fermanagh and Cavan reached recent Ulster finals, Westmeath, Laois reached the Leinster finals. Clare, Kildare and Armagh all reached the last 8 in the last few years. More to the Gaa championship than who wins it and all teams in this division would prefer to have the opportunity to at least reach the last 8 once more than play in a Tommy Murphy cup that carries no value even if its won."
Very god points there gaa_lover. As regards the second tier competition I think that if promoted properly it could become popular just as teams in divisions 2, 3 and 4 dont regard their league finals as inferior to the Division final.

lilywhite1 (National) - 27/01/2020 21:33:04

Kildare V Meath - 3 Like(s)

Replying To royaldunne:  "Btw all slagging aside. Where is lillywhite1 ? One of my favourite posters on hs, a real gent who knows his stuff. Anyone from Kildare know. Honest question as I am worried , thought he be all over this thread."
Ah royaldunne, thanks very much for your concern regarding my absence. I haven't posted in a while as I had to get a new password, just got around to getting it today. I have been following the thread though with interest. Looking forward to the game with nervous anticipation. It's going to be a lot closer than the League game in Navan on the opening day. Meath are a much improved team from that day with a strong League finish and an impressive display of scoring against Louth, far from being a one man forward line in Graham Reilly as some observers seem to think. On a personal level I'm glad for you that your faith in Andy McEntee has been vindicated as you were swimming very much against the tide of opinion on the Meath forum in the aftermath of the League loss to Kildare. Might see you in Tullamore on Saturday night. Best wishes and may the best team win and go on to give the Dubs(more than likely)a real lash.

lilywhite1 (National) - 13/06/2017 15:18:32

NFL Division 2 - 3 Like(s)

Replying To royaldunne:  "Very fair analysis there furlong. Hard to argue with any point."
Yes indeed royaldunne. Very good analysis. Thanks furlong for your great contributions here. Your research is top notch.

lilywhite1 (National) - 15/01/2019 21:39:07

Meath V Kildare - 3 Like(s)
Well done to Meath. Best team in the 2nd half. We were the architect of our own downfall for some of the second half goals. Best wishes to Meath, royaldune and all Meath posters next week.

lilywhite1 (National) - 15/11/2020 15:46:19

Tyrone V Meath Nfl Rd 1. - 3 Like(s)
No disrespect to you furlong as I very much enjoy your analytical and well researched posts, but a one point win over Kildare in blizzard conditions in Navan last march is hardly a comprehensive win. I do acknowledge that Kildare slipped back last year while Meath moved forward. However I think that we will see (hoping) a different Kildare team this year, with the new manager Jac kO'Connor, returnees and the inclusion of a raft of young players who won the U20 All Ireland in 2018.

lilywhite1 (National) - 24/01/2020 11:06:47

Leinster Football The Reality - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Spillane thought it was 50% yesterday evening, and I think he was a teacher by profession."
50% of Leinster teams remain and they account for over 1/3 of the 16 remaining teams. Simple maths.

lilywhite1 (National) - 24/06/2019 14:55:28

All Ireland U21 Football Championship - 3 Like(s)

Replying To rhudson:  "the best games I have seen for pure football enjoyment have been at under 21 I still cant believe they have scrapped it they haven't dealt with the real issues of burn out and the under 21 grade was the easy target anyways back to this year we have a good group of lads in galway if we can get them to reach their potential at under 21 be great as lot these lads promised so much as minor"
I agree rhudson. The U21 football championship was an easy target. It's a great competition, hugely popular with great football played. From Round one to the All-Ireland final takes less than two months to complete. So how the delegates at Congress could have voted to scrap it is beyond me. Getting rid of it was a handy cop out instead of properly addressing the issue of young player burn out.

lilywhite1 (National) - 23/02/2017 14:25:24

'The People's Game' - 3 Like(s)

Replying To bad.monkey:  "The sad reality is the GAA is closed off to unionists. At least rugby is open and welcoming to anyone regardless of politics. Soccer is split between the 26 and 6. So in the sense that the National Team is representative of all people of all backgrounds on the island rugby is actually the The Peoples Game."
Plenty of protestants have and are playing GAA. Some have even won All-Irelands.

lilywhite1 (National) - 07/03/2018 17:42:28

League Predictions 2017. HS Division 3 - 3 Like(s)
Round 2 NFL Predictions Results. Congrats to mayotyroneman who leads after Round 2 with 38 points, closely followed by thestrapper and ruthless on 35 points. Only nine points separates the top ten players. Well done to Mobot, PortinFaithful, mayotyroneman, naillpak and Saffrondon who all correctly predicted a draw between Dublin and Tyrone. Well done to the strapper and downredhand who correctly predicted the draw between Monaghan and Cavan. Well done also to Tir Conaill Abu and to jed68 who were the only two to predict wins for Sligo and Laois respectively. Welcome aboard to PointinFaithful who joined after Round 1 and had a good start with 17 points. Please check your scores and if you feel your score is incorrect I will do a re check tomorrow. League Table Round 2 1 Mayotyroneman 38 2 Thestrapper 35 Ruthless 35 4 MeathOnHill16 32 5 naillpak 31 Jed68 30 JXV 30 Pope 30 Tir Conaill Abu 30 10 SaffronDon 29 Downredhand 29 12 Barney123 28 13 Reformation 27 14 Llaw_Gyffes 27 15 Yourjoking 26 Thewestawake88 26 17 Mobot 25 18 Kingoreilly 24 19 Crinigan 22 19 Ziggy 22 Jackser 22 22 Thelongridge 22 23 Prisonlove 17 PortinFaithful 17 25 bonnyandclyde 14

lilywhite1 (National) - 13/02/2017 19:10:43

Professor Niall Moyna says Dublin are too dominant - 3 Like(s)

Replying To galwayford:  "When Dublin have the same no. of All Irelands as Kerry then I will expect change. But they are still about 10 down. Kildare and Meath are sleeping giants. They have a large population. And just need a Leinster title to kickstart their comeback. How about combining some of the smaller Leinster counties? Eg Wexford, and Wicklow. Kilkenny and Carlow, Laois and Kildare, Meath and Westmeath- as a trial"
There's about as much chance of Kildare and Laois joining together as there is of Sinn Fein and the DUP joining forces.

lilywhite1 (National) - 31/01/2018 15:00:14

Kildare V Meath - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Donegalman:  "I see Meath winning this one. I feel that they were unlucky last year in division 2 with some of their results. If you take their bad start out of the league this year, especially the down game, they were well worth promotion imo. 27 points is also a very good yardstick as to what they are about. I think that the game will be decided in the 2nd half, when Kildare will not be able to cope with Meath's pace. I could be wrong, but 16/1 for meath to win leinster is an excellent price and worth at least 20 euro."
I don't know where you get the idea Donegalman, that Kildare won't be able to cope with the Meath's pace. Both teams have pace aplenty, but I suppose in a high intensity game and in the expected heat on Saturday fitness may well be a deciding factor in the end if the game is tight.

lilywhite1 (National) - 15/06/2017 21:39:54

Kildare V Meath - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Furlong1949:  "[quote=if_in_doubt:  "Even this current generation of talented Kildare footballers eg Feehily Doyle Flynn couldn't again beat their bogey team Dublin at underage level Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts:2 - 20/06/2017 Except for 2010 when we beat them at minor level with 7 players who played for us at the weekend also playing (include Paul Cribbin and that's up to 8). Or for 2013 when our minors bet them with Chris Healy and Neil Flynn featuring that day and again on Saturday. We don't have the best head to head record against Dublin at underage level over the last few years, but we've still had success at minor and under 21 level. As good as Dublin are, and as strong as their underage structures are I'd take winning a title over beating them and not winning one any day of the week. If you want to talk about beating bogey teams then you must be really worried about Meath's poor record against Kildare at minor and under 21 over the last 8 or 10 years?"
I agree Kildarea record v Meath at underage level in the last ten years has been excellent. Kildare have wiped the floor with us at underage level. Meath record at under 21 is dreadful and one of the contributory factors to the last decade been our worst since the 30s. But still in that period we defeated Dublin and Kerry by record scores and defeated Galway Mayo and the great Tyrone team. Under McGeeney kildare couldn't beat a top team. While Kildare deserve lots of praise for their underage sucess. Meath are still the only minor team this decade to reach an All Ireland final other then Dublin from the province of leinster. When kildare got our of the province at undwr 21 abd minor level they still had that age old problem of beating qualtity opposition . While under McEntee Meath defeated very highly fancied Tyrone and Mayo teams to get to the final to play Dublina greatest minor team ever."]I agree Furlong1949 the weight of History lays heavily on Kildare shoulders when it comes to Dublin and our Championship record against them. However that may be about to change as other posters have pointed out that many of the present players have beaten Dublin more than once at underage. I hope I'm wrong but I think we are probably a year short of beating Dublin and other top teams. A season in Division 1 will be very beneficial and realistically is required if Kildare are to make a genuine breakthrough by beating any of the top teams who are short favourites for the All-Ireland every year.

lilywhite1 (National) - 20/06/2017 18:37:51

Kildare Maintain Underage Superiority In Leinster - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Not looking forward to the next 15 years when all this Kildare underage domination leads to them winning 14 out of 15 senior titles. Dark days ahead. Does anybody here seriously think Kildare will beat Dublin in Leinster in the next 10 years?"
I do Jack_Goff. We will win at least a couple. And you should be as positive as well. Congratulations on a brilliant performance by Kildare today and commiserations to Dublin. It was a fantastic game of football by skilful young players. Just a pity that it wasn't in TV to show the sceptics that Gaelic football is far from dead. Best of luck to both teams in the All- Ireland series.

lilywhite1 (National) - 07/07/2019 03:00:29