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Tomsmith Intends To Retire From Intercounty Posting On Hoganstand - 4 Like(s)
Who is Tomsmith?
CARPS (National) - 05/01/2024 18:46:48
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Footballers 2018 Season - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Blackbog: "Steady start" Hello, Onion.... not much swatting today... instead a hard fought win against a side who kicked a lot of wides.... has everyone come back down to earth a bit now?
CARPS (Carlow) - 27/01/2018 15:19:46
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Carlow GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Less than four years ago, Carlow beat Louth by 2-17 to 0-12 (11 points) in a Leinster SFC First Round tie... Today, Louth beat us by 5-10 to 0-10 (15 points)... A 26 point turn around in just a few seasons... Congratulations to the members of our County Board who chose Niall Carew over Stephen Poacher to manage the team... You have reaped what you sowed.
CARPS (National) - 24/04/2022 20:51:18
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Hurlers 2017 - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Scallioneater: "Joe Quaid is doing all he can to raise the profile of Kildare hurling, he has 5 key players in key positions all ball winners and game changers and know where the post are. Carlow has to raise their game and keep it raised, playing hot and cold is not an option, the Carlow bench is as strong as any selected 15." I don't see the point of what Kildare are doing - and Westmeath were it too (maybe still are)... because if Kildare get promoted, these brought in players can't take part in the 'A' grade... so 'rump' Kildare would be whipped in senior... whereas, what they might do is block Carlow or Antrim from going up... who use all their own and would compete better... this nonsense of bringing in players who don't even play club in the county, shouldn't be allowed...
CARPS (Carlow) - 14/03/2017 13:20:59
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Carlow GAA thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To carlowman: "This hankering back to a previous era is absolute nonsense and does nothing to improve anything. Mamagers of the past had their day and the brutal football that was played under previous managers was shocking to watch. Yes people will say we got results, and to what cost I ask? We got out of Div 4 yes, but the following years league we were straight down.
That style of football that was adopted was shocking to watch.
The top teams play a particular brand that we have not played.
The minor team are trying to play that brand and fair play to the team management and coaches for trying to bring in a far better and more productive style that mirrors what Dublin Kerry and Mayo play.
Being very honest, the basic skills of the game are not there amongst a large number of players within the county.
Most other counties in div 4.have gotten better while we have regressed.
Success needs to be built from the bottom up. Otherwise it's a temporary fix.
No manager will improve the success rate until we have players able to perform at the level required.
Above all, i feel for all involved yesterday.
It was a difficult game and yes, we were very poor and yet the players were trying and doing their best.
Blaming the county board and the current manager is not going to work either.
It's might get things off our chest but offers no solution.
I believe we need to go back to the grass roots and ask are we doing things right at that level and take it.from there.
Hard work is needed." This is such a depressing post that I want to answer it line by line.
I'm glad you posted it because it offers an insight into the petty, Stone Age mentality of many figures in Carlow GAA.
"This hankering back to a previous era is absolute nonsense and does nothing to improve anything.
- You mean the era when Carlow hammered Wexford in the first round, instead of losing by 27 points to them?
Mamagers of the past had their day and the brutal football that was played under previous managers was shocking to watch.
- So shocking that Carlow got their biggest crowds for games since the mid 1980s? How many Carlow people were in Wexford park on Sunday? And how many would have travelled to away games in 2017/2018?
Yes people will say we got results, and to what cost I ask?
- That has to be one of the most stupid things I have ever read on this board? Did some players die in the process of winning? I don't recall that.
We got out of Div 4 yes, but the following years league we were straight down.
- Yes, we got out of Division 4. Since then we have not even come close to getting out of it? So your point is?
That style of football that was adopted was shocking to watch.
- But we won games?
The top teams play a particular brand that we have not played.
- So you think Carlow should play like Dublin? That will lead to success?
The minor team are trying to play that brand and fair play to the team management and coaches for trying to bring in a far better and more productive style that mirrors what Dublin Kerry and Mayo play.
- How many matches have the minor team won?
Being very honest, the basic skills of the game are not there amongst a large number of players within the county.
- You say we don't have basic skills, but we should play like Dublin?
Most other counties in div 4.have gotten better while we have regressed.
- But you said we play better football now? Make up your mind
Success needs to be built from the bottom up. Otherwise it's a temporary fix.
- Have you ever heard of 'success breeds success?'
No manager will improve the success rate until we have players able to perform at the level required.
- so we should withdraw from inter county competitions until we have better players?
Above all, i feel for all involved yesterday.
- that's heartwarming.
It was a difficult game and yes, we were very poor and yet the players were trying and doing their best.
- they were also trying and doing their best when they hammed Wexford in 2018.
Blaming the county board and the current manager is not going to work either.
- The Board are responsible for the developement of Carlow football. So who else is to blame? The FAI? The IRFU? Sinn Fein? Vladimir Putin?
It's might get things off our chest but offers no solution.
- right, so let's never criticise the Board
I believe we need to go back to the grass roots and ask are we doing things right at that level and take it.from there.
Hard work is needed."
- ah, the grass roots… like John Delaney.
CARPS (National) - 09/04/2024 13:17:07
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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2023 - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "Munster hurling League" Just stop. Will ya? That's not a primary competition.
CARPS (National) - 10/07/2023 17:31:02
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Carlow GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Barrowsider: "It's growing hurling at the expense of football though. The football league ends in May and championship doesn't start until late August, and then it's all over in 5 weeks. It's incredibly damaging to football, it needs to go back to 2 weeks on 2 weeks off." Don't understand how trying to level up hurling is damaging football. It's not a zero sum game.
The GAA's mission is to. promote both codes.
If footballers feel let out in July and August,, there's nothing to stop them picking up a hurl.
Just as St Mullins dusted of the big ball to occupy their time in September and October.
CARPS (National) - 13/11/2023 12:30:42
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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2023 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "It must be hard for Carlow to stomach, seeing teams already qualified for the quarter and semi-finals, who have all lost at least once." Sure, if we lose on Sunday, we demand a back door play off with the All Ireland winners. The morning after that game. At, say, 9am?
CARPS (National) - 14/06/2023 10:23:19
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Irish Pubs Costa Del Sol. - 2 Like(s)
Replying To latefortraining: "any suggestion for a good irish pub where i can watch Gaelic matches.
in the Benalmádena area." Kinahan's, Puerto Banús. Great crack altogether.
CARPS (National) - 23/05/2023 16:58:27
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County Senior Football Team - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Barrowsider: "Bad day for a game, Carlow are looking a bit disjointed in these first couple of games I think a combo of new rules and so many new faces have played a part, we have relied heavily on the handpass for a cpl of years and now we must adapt to a more kicking oriented game. Result aside I hope Conor lawlor is ok he was stretchered off late in the second half and did not look in good shape I'm presuming it was a neck injury as he was braced and stabilized." I was there too... I think if the new rules stay in place for the league, we are in serious bother... hope I am wrong... on a brighter note, fact we didn't lose by more, with that handicap, and given experimental nature of team, suggests strength-in-depth of county is quite good... No Jordan Morrissey, Sean Murphy, Eoghan Ruth, Sean Gannon, Diarmuid Walshe, Paul Broderick, John Murphy, Darragh O'Brien, Cian Lawlor, BJ Molloy today and hardly got hammered! Kildare remain a division ahead of us.
CARPS (Carlow) - 15/12/2018 21:09:59
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Joe McDonagh Cup 2023 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To skirge7: "Offaly really screwed a good Laois team over. Laois should have really beaten Carlow on that day I suppose. It'll be a tough division next year with Westmeath and Laois." On what grounds do you assume a fully strength Offaly would have beaten Carlow? Who were unbeaten coming into the game, and beat Offaly (by five points) last year?
And if Leix are 'really good' why didn't they beat Carlow? They had their chance.
CARPS (National) - 14/05/2023 11:17:39
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Carlow GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Overthebar53: "You know exactly what I meant so don't pretend. Your suggestion that lads should just pick up hurleys and all will be well is just trite. Our club footballers are playing for for 6 /7 weeks in spring. Then playing for 5 weeks in autumn with a 3 month gap in between. The 3 best months of the year. This is your idea of progress?? It's just bizarre and won't work." Many of those club footballers play hurling in the summer months.
The others are welcome to join them.
What you want to do is punish dual players.
CARPS (National) - 15/11/2023 10:11:47
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Carlow 2021 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To novalis: "Haven't heard many names but a big football panel training - 35/36 I believe.
Brendan Murphy not committing for 2021.
They have a game Saturday week 15th vs Waterford so need to have good preparation in that short period.
We do have plenty of experience in the panel.
Here's hoping" Brendan Murphy delivered the most complete performance I've ever seen from a player in a Carlow shirt... the heartbreaking u21 game against Dublin... however, when we look back, surely we have to say he underachieved? He opted out of a number of years, and played half of others... missed the entire 2018 championship run, would he have made the difference against Leix?... don't get me wrong, Brendan gave us some great moments (and thank you for those, big man), but there's just a niggling feeling that he could have gone down in lore as a complete legend, but fell short... he's more a Tommy Dwyer than a Paddy Quirke... and I understand it must have been frustrating for him at times... it's a lot harder to play for Carlow as a talented player than it is to play for Dublin or Kerry.
CARPS (Carlow) - 05/05/2021 07:54:18
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Carlow GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Actually looked it up. According to Schooldays.ie, there are 3,610 children currently enrolled in primary schools in County Carlow.
1,549 are in the town, and 2,061 in the rest of the county.
There are 17 Juvenile Football clubs in Carlow, and 9 hurling clubs.
3 of the football clubs are in the town, and two of the hurling. There are whole pockets of the county where hurling is not offered to children at all - Tullow, Hacketstown, Rathvilly, Palatine, etc
Now, let's be honest - one of those 3 football clubs is hoovering up all the best players in the town, to the detriment of the other two clubs (and the game in the county generally). This makes it even worse.
So effectively one club has around the same pick as 14 other clubs PUT TOGETHER.
It's a ridiculous waste of resources.
So, if we want to see where the problem starts with Carlow GAA, and why our county teams are being hammered... it's very clear.
Any action plan has to start with a reform of how the games are promoted, and organized, in Carlow town. And making sure every child has a chance to play hurling.
We have a small population. If we want to compete, we have to make the most of it. We are not even trying to do that.
CARPS (National) - 14/07/2023 17:47:25
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New Football Manager - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Oldyellar: "(same me, slightly different username as they won't send me a password change for my old one!)
I personally would like to see Joe Murphy have a crack at it. He certainly has effected Eire og in a positive way and is not afraid to make changes as he sees fit. As for Stephen Poacher, I d have my worries and I personally don't like the controversy attached to him. He did leave citing travel as a major issue. I don't think this has changed? 3/4 times a week adds up to a lot of miles and it's not sustainable on a longer basis as some people here would like to see him stay for a number of years. Travelling like this while maintaining a job isn't possible for any man - like him or loathe him! And unfortunately I don't think we have the money of other counties to allow him to be a full time manager. That's the reality. On the football side of things, for all the inventive coaching at the start of his time, we didn't change or adapt and ultimately teams figured us out. We failed to beat laois on 3 occasions and that to me was a major failing. I have heards murmurs of disquiet from panel members about selection issues. We all have. Would he be able to put stuff like this aside and make the changes to freshen it up? Its going to be hard get someone at this time given the timing but that's where we are at. Best wishes to turlough in his "retirement" also. He is Carlow through and through, be it at hurling matches, underage, club or school matches. Always there supporting." Point is, we got closer to beating Leix on those three occasions that at any point in the last 32 years. Back when Joe Hayden put them in their place in 1988.... Before Poacher came, we wouldn't have gotten within 15 points of Leix.... some people on this board have extremely short memories... also, what we saw in the league this year was a clear sign that the bad old days were on the way back... I'm not against Joe Murphy getting it... but has to be a 4/5 year deal... to give him the space Turlough got... otherwise you go with Poacher... indeed, If the money could be got, I'd make Poacher full time and give him another role - to train up the Carlow coaching and training system from the ground up. By the time he's finished, there should be At least eight native managers running clubs who could step up after him...
CARPS (Carlow) - 04/07/2020 10:08:59
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Carlow GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Barrowsider: "That's the football wrapped up now, clonmore impressive in their win, it was a good game the clonmore goal after half time was a thing of beauty, the number 10 for clonmore looks decent definitely should be called in for county leighlin had their moments too and never gave up.I would like to see a 10 team intermediate next season I don't see any reason why each division has to have 8 teams, intermediate is a place to develop and more games would aid that, junior c was entertaining too clonmore just had a bit extra, carpenter still a class forward for the blues if they had got a bit more ball into him it could have swung it." The reason why every division has to have eight teams is to avoid dead rubbers and keep every side involved until (almost) the end. If you put 10 teams in the IFC, you kill that and you dilute the Junior A.
Would Leighlinbridge have been better off, this year, a) reaching a junior final or b) getting hammered by Fenagh and probably finishing last in their IFC group?
If you were a Leighlinbridge player, the prospect of which scenario would have been more likely to make you commit for the year, back in January?
Actually, there's more of a case for making six teams per grade - with each side playing each other once, and top four in semis, plus bottom two in relegation - than ten. Would Old Leighlin and Ballinabranna have been better off in a hyper competitive IFC or a being off the pace at senior?
It would also improve our chances of winning intermediate and junior Leinster's.
The 8-8-8-8-8 format has raised standards in Carlow, and helped the county team. Expanding to 10 would be a disaster.
CARPS (National) - 09/10/2022 14:41:15
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Tailteann Cup 2023 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Onion Breath: ""Excellent competition for the likes of Antrim" and then you say you're not being condescending!!!
Meath were one kick of the ball away from losing yesterday and from the previous week in Belfast I know Antrim are far from a top side so Meath are where they deserve to be. So you should be seeing this as an excellent competition for the likes of Meath because it's probably the only one ye're capable of winning so embrace it rather than looking down on it as if he belong somewhere else.
In my opinion Meath are now closer to teams at the bottom of division 4 than to the teams who'll be in contention to win Sam. That may well change in the coming years but that's where Meath are now." Carlow finished in the bottom half of Division Four. Antrim beat us by four points (in Belfast!). And went on to lose by two to Meath.
Obviously, this isn't scientific, but that's a six point spread.
What would Kerry or Dublin beat Meath by? In a championship knockout game, with the gloves off?
CARPS (National) - 27/06/2023 09:28:07
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Carlow GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To carlowman: "Where in Ireland or the Americas is the style and set up played by Carlow footballers for 3 years now in vogue... nowhere !
The person brought in cost a small fortune, and no county in Ireland has used his services. That tells a very clear story.
He is gone, and so is that system of play.
If his style and system was respected, then he would be a manager of another county. But, he is not." The management that replaced Turlough/Poacher cost the County Board more than they did.
Just stop. You're either trolling (in which case, well done), or you're delusional.
Letting Poacher go was a massive mistake. And it upset some players so much that they walked.
As for why others haven't snapped him up? Some problem just suit certain situations. Look at our hurling manager? He did amazing things with MLR, but it just hasn't clicked with the county. That's life.
Poacher suited Carlow football. We have to be a sort of 'crazy gang' to succeed. We don't have the numbers other counties have.
CARPS (National) - 27/04/2022 12:34:12
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County Senior Football Team - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Uptheduffer: "Have to agree. Thompson and Blake were both playing intermediate football you have to remember which is why they probably stood out as much as they did last year. Carlow Senior football isn't exactly of the highest quality standard and from being at a few intermediate games the quality isn't much better. Agree that lads should be given the opportunity nonetheless." Meath won an All IRELAND with an all junior midfield.... Our best player for the past two years has arguably been Sean Murphy... Give it a rest really....Danny Thompson is a goalscorer and he's probably never had a full season of proper GAA coaching... with a proper coach
CARPS (Carlow) - 30/11/2018 21:19:27
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Footballers 2019 Season - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Onion Breath: "Win three or four games and finish safely mid table at least in div 3. Give Meath a rattle in the championship i.e. by being well in it until at least 60 mins and, depending on the draw, winning a game or two in the qualifiers but the draw is pot luck. At least not to lose to a div 4 team or a div 3 team we've already beaten in the league.
Staying in div 3 is by far the most important thing." Carlow should expect to beat Meath in the championship.
CARPS (Carlow) - 09/01/2019 20:16:21
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