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I see the Tipperary SHC final is down for decision on Sunday as Thurles Sarsfields bid for a four in a row against Borris Ileigh. With Sars being one of the favourites for outright honours I thought I'd set up a thread where we can discuss all things club hurling, county finals etc. Most county finals haven't been played yet but should be over this month while the Galway SHC has been held up due to a player eligibility row and it could be December before it's played.
Also on this weekend are the Ulster senior semi finals as Slaughtneil face Dunloy and Ballycran meet Lisbellaw. Slaughtneil and Dunloy should be '50 50' but the other game is a mis match. Surely the Armagh champions should be there instead of the Fermanagh representatives. A senior club from a Lory Meagher Cup county playing at a higher level than a senior club from a Christy Ring Cup county.
Kilcormac Killoughey won the Offaly championship at the weekend when beating holders St Rynagh's. The KK's will relish another crack at Leinster and again are sure to be a match for any team in the province. They join Castletown Geoghegan and Camross, who won their respective county championships in recent weeks.
If anyone knows the draw for the 2017 Leinster and All Ireland club hurling championship semi-finals could they please post. I have the Munster draw but can't seem to find the others.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 04/10/2017 15:19:38
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This weekend's fixtures:
Sunday 8 October
Ulster club SHC semi-finals
Slaughtneil (Derry) v Dunloy (Antrim), Owenbeg, 2.30pm
Ballygalget (Down) v Lisbellaw (Fermanagh), Corrigan Park, 2.30pm
Kerry SHC final
Ballyduff v Lixnaw, Austin Stack Park, 3pm
Roscommon SHC final
Four Roads v Padraig Pearses, Athleague, 3pm
Tipperary SHC final
Borris-Ileigh v Thurles Sarsfields, Semple Stadium, 3.30pm
Ulster club IHC semi-finals
Middletown (Armagh) v Carrickmore (Tyrone), Corrigan Park, 12.45pm
Lavey (Derry) v Patrick Sarsfields (Antrim), Davitt Park, 2.30pm
Ulster club JHC semi-final
Mullahoran (Cavan) v Na Magha (Derry), Gavan Duffy Park, Monaghan, 2.30pm
Ulster club JHC quarter-final replay
Derrynoose (Armagh) v Gort na Mona (Antrim), Davitt Park, 12.45pm
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 04/10/2017 15:22:44
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Replying To PortInFaithful: "I see the Tipperary SHC final is down for decision on Sunday as Thurles Sarsfields bid for a four in a row against Borris Ileigh. With Sars being one of the favourites for outright honours I thought I'd set up a thread where we can discuss all things club hurling, county finals etc. Most county finals haven't been played yet but should be over this month while the Galway SHC has been held up due to a player eligibility row and it could be December before it's played.
Also on this weekend are the Ulster senior semi finals as Slaughtneil face Dunloy and Ballycran meet Lisbellaw. Slaughtneil and Dunloy should be '50 50' but the other game is a mis match. Surely the Armagh champions should be there instead of the Fermanagh representatives. A senior club from a Lory Meagher Cup county playing at a higher level than a senior club from a Christy Ring Cup county.
Kilcormac Killoughey won the Offaly championship at the weekend when beating holders St Rynagh's. The KK's will relish another crack at Leinster and again are sure to be a match for any team in the province. They join Castletown Geoghegan and Camross, who won their respective county championships in recent weeks.
If anyone knows the draw for the 2017 Leinster and All Ireland club hurling championship semi-finals could they please post. I have the Munster draw but can't seem to find the others." Sorry I mean Nicky Rackard Cup with point made on Armagh champions.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 04/10/2017 15:28:53
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I think it might be a year too soon for this young Dunloy team, hopefully im wrong though
However, there's no doubt they'll have plenty more opportunities in years to come
I think Slaughtneil should win Ulster again this year, don't think Ballycran have enough to cause an upset
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Replying To bumpernut: "I think it might be a year too soon for this young Dunloy team, hopefully im wrong though
However, there's no doubt they'll have plenty more opportunities in years to come
I think Slaughtneil should win Ulster again this year, don't think Ballycran have enough to cause an upset" Your comments on the Ulster championship being a bit too soon for Dunloy proved right as they bowed to a hugely physical Slaughtneil team. That's a young Dunloy side though with lots of minors I believe and I'ms sure they will be back. The other Ulster semi final was a total mis match as expected with Ballygalget (note I had Ballycran as Down champions) beating Lisbellaw by 24 points in the end. I see the final is down for Sunday week in Armagh.
In the county finals, Thurles Sarsfields were impressive winners over Borris-Ileigh, Padraig Pearses landed their first Roscommon title in 30 years and Lixnaw and Ballyduff finished a draw in Kerry.
This weekend's fixtures:
Leitrim SHC final
Carrick v Cluainin Iomaint, Pairc Sean MacDiarmada, 3pm
Carlow SHC final
Mount Leinster Rangers v Naomh Eoin, Netwatch Cullen Park, 3.45pm
Clare SHC final
Clooney-Quin v Sixmilebridge, Cusack Park, 3.30pm
Kerry SHC final replay
Ballyduff v Lixnaw, Austin Stack Park, 3pm
Limerick SHC final
Na Piarsaigh v Kilmallock, Gaelic Grounds, 4pm - TG4
London SHC final
Robert Emmetts v Kilburn Gaels, Ruislip, 2.30pm
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 11/10/2017 15:01:45
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Also I see the Galway SHC player eligibility row has been resolved with Turloughmore's appeal to the DRA being thrown out and Portumna going forward to the quarter-finals which will be played over this weekend.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 11/10/2017 15:14:10
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Down to the last r in Dubljn. Cuala v vincents Lucan Crokes.
Dont think Cuala are moving as well as last year but fancy them to still win it out
Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 12/10/2017 20:15:06
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Kilkenny Senior Hurling semi-finals this weekend Sunday 15th.
Ballyhale Shamrocks v James Stephens
O'Loughlin Gaels v Dicksboro
Up the Boro!
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2445 - 12/10/2017 20:37:03
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Replying To PortInFaithful: "I see the Tipperary SHC final is down for decision on Sunday as Thurles Sarsfields bid for a four in a row against Borris Ileigh. With Sars being one of the favourites for outright honours I thought I'd set up a thread where we can discuss all things club hurling, county finals etc. Most county finals haven't been played yet but should be over this month while the Galway SHC has been held up due to a player eligibility row and it could be December before it's played.
Also on this weekend are the Ulster senior semi finals as Slaughtneil face Dunloy and Ballycran meet Lisbellaw. Slaughtneil and Dunloy should be '50 50' but the other game is a mis match. Surely the Armagh champions should be there instead of the Fermanagh representatives. A senior club from a Lory Meagher Cup county playing at a higher level than a senior club from a Christy Ring Cup county.
Kilcormac Killoughey won the Offaly championship at the weekend when beating holders St Rynagh's. The KK's will relish another crack at Leinster and again are sure to be a match for any team in the province. They join Castletown Geoghegan and Camross, who won their respective county championships in recent weeks.
If anyone knows the draw for the 2017 Leinster and All Ireland club hurling championship semi-finals could they please post. I have the Munster draw but can't seem to find the others." the way the ulster council have set up the rules for their championship is a farce, at senior level things are ok as the strongest hurling teams are in senior level hurling, the winners of the intermediate and junior provincial club titles only in hurling are barred for 5yrs from playing at that level and have to move up to the next level, so a strong club is punished for 5yrs for being successful even if they win their county championship the following year and depending on the wording of a counties description of their hurling championship the losers of a county final will be promoted to play in provincial at that level or a county may nominate a club to represent the county at inter or junior level. bonkers rules from a council that's meant to be promoting hurling and gaelic games in the province, but pay lip service and tick boxes which allows them to say they are promoting hurling and allowing them to draw down training grants fro CP.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 12/10/2017 21:24:08
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Here's the Leinster senior hurling draw: http://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/aib-leinster-club-senior-hurling-championship-2017/
Dublin, Kilkenny and Wexford all on one side of the draw so it's a great chance for Offaly/Westmeath/Laois/Carlow champions to get to a final.
HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 13/10/2017 00:43:40
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The past weekend was a busy one on the county final circuit with Mount Leinster Rangers regaining the Carlow title for the first time in four years, Clooney Quin and Sixmilebridge will do it all again, Ballyduff beat Lixnaw in Kerry final replay (the curse is real afterall), Kilburn Gaels upset a Robert Emmetts three in a row in London, Carrick were crowned Leitrim champions and last but not least Na Piarsaigh reigned supreme over Kilmallock. I would say NAP are stronger than they were in 2015/16 when they won the All-Ireland title. They're like an inter county team and I doubt there is a club in the country with a more potent forward line. The Munster campaign hasn't started yet but I'm already looking towards a Na Piarsaigh v Thurles Sarsfields final.
Ballygalget should put it up to Slaughtneil but I expect the Derry champions to hit them goals. The Dublin hurling semi-finals are also on this weeekend with Cuala out against St Vincent's.
This weekend's fixtures:
Ulster club SHC final
Ballygalget (Down) v Slaughtneil (Derry), Athletic Grounds, 4pm
Clare SHC final replay
Clooney-Quin v Sixmilebridge, Cusack Park, 3.30pm
Cork SHC final
Blackrock v Imokilly, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, 4pm
Sligo SHC final
Calry-St Joseph's v Western Gaels, Markievicz Park, 2pm
Waterford SHC final
Ballygunner v De La Salle, Walsh Park, 3pm
Ulster club IHC final
Lavey (Derry) v Middletown (Armagh), Corrigan Park, 1pm
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 18/10/2017 14:55:25
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Replying To bulmccabe: "the way the ulster council have set up the rules for their championship is a farce, at senior level things are ok as the strongest hurling teams are in senior level hurling, the winners of the intermediate and junior provincial club titles only in hurling are barred for 5yrs from playing at that level and have to move up to the next level, so a strong club is punished for 5yrs for being successful even if they win their county championship the following year and depending on the wording of a counties description of their hurling championship the losers of a county final will be promoted to play in provincial at that level or a county may nominate a club to represent the county at inter or junior level. bonkers rules from a council that's meant to be promoting hurling and gaelic games in the province, but pay lip service and tick boxes which allows them to say they are promoting hurling and allowing them to draw down training grants fro CP." So if a club wins a provincial title at intermediate and junior level they are barred from playing in the same grade for 5 years? I was unaware of this ridiculous rule.
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 18/10/2017 14:55:30
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Replying To PortInFaithful: "So if a club wins a provincial title at intermediate and junior level they are barred from playing in the same grade for 5 years? I was unaware of this ridiculous rule." Thats the case in senior hurling in Ulster, but may be a rule from CP rather than somebody sitting in Armagh.
Lisbellaw were out of their depth Sunday week ago and its not fair on them.
It's always the case when a team outside Antrim Down or Derry win the Ulster Intermediate crown. A poisoned chalice so to speak and needs looked at.
bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 18/10/2017 15:40:33
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Replying To bulmccabe: "the way the ulster council have set up the rules for their championship is a farce, at senior level things are ok as the strongest hurling teams are in senior level hurling, the winners of the intermediate and junior provincial club titles only in hurling are barred for 5yrs from playing at that level and have to move up to the next level, so a strong club is punished for 5yrs for being successful even if they win their county championship the following year and depending on the wording of a counties description of their hurling championship the losers of a county final will be promoted to play in provincial at that level or a county may nominate a club to represent the county at inter or junior level. bonkers rules from a council that's meant to be promoting hurling and gaelic games in the province, but pay lip service and tick boxes which allows them to say they are promoting hurling and allowing them to draw down training grants fro CP." Yeah it's a bit strange but is it different in the other provinces? Middletown are in the Intermediate (Keady would've had to play in the Senior) but didn't Mount Leinster Rangers beat them in the All-Ireland Intermediate Final a few years ago?
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Replying To keeper7: "Yeah it's a bit strange but is it different in the other provinces? Middletown are in the Intermediate (Keady would've had to play in the Senior) but didn't Mount Leinster Rangers beat them in the All-Ireland Intermediate Final a few years ago?" In Ulster for example if you are from a weaker hurling county such as Armagh, Fermanagh, Cavan, Monaghan, Tyrone or Donegal where there are less clubs when you win your county senior championship you will fall into the ulster intermediate championship (if your county has no other intermediate competition). if your county has no junior competitors you will play Ulster junior. BUT if you win your provincial championship you will move up to the next grade providing you win the county championship again within the next 5 years (if you win it again in 6 years you are back to junior) Middletown for example won the ulster intermediate back in 2011 and went up to senior in ulster for the few years they won the armagh title again. Middletown failed to win the senior title within 5 years so have moved back down to intermediate as will Lisbellaw of fermanagh next season.
a little bit difficult to understand but it works
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Replying To PortInFaithful: "The past weekend was a busy one on the county final circuit with Mount Leinster Rangers regaining the Carlow title for the first time in four years, Clooney Quin and Sixmilebridge will do it all again, Ballyduff beat Lixnaw in Kerry final replay (the curse is real afterall), Kilburn Gaels upset a Robert Emmetts three in a row in London, Carrick were crowned Leitrim champions and last but not least Na Piarsaigh reigned supreme over Kilmallock. I would say NAP are stronger than they were in 2015/16 when they won the All-Ireland title. They're like an inter county team and I doubt there is a club in the country with a more potent forward line. The Munster campaign hasn't started yet but I'm already looking towards a Na Piarsaigh v Thurles Sarsfields final.
Ballygalget should put it up to Slaughtneil but I expect the Derry champions to hit them goals. The Dublin hurling semi-finals are also on this weeekend with Cuala out against St Vincent's.
This weekend's fixtures:
Ulster club SHC final
Ballygalget (Down) v Slaughtneil (Derry), Athletic Grounds, 4pm
Clare SHC final replay
Clooney-Quin v Sixmilebridge, Cusack Park, 3.30pm
Cork SHC final
Blackrock v Imokilly, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, 4pm
Sligo SHC final
Calry-St Joseph's v Western Gaels, Markievicz Park, 2pm
Waterford SHC final
Ballygunner v De La Salle, Walsh Park, 3pm
Ulster club IHC final
Lavey (Derry) v Middletown (Armagh), Corrigan Park, 1pm" Agreed re the Munster club. If Sars beat Ballygunner (in Walsh Park may have an impact) then they are likely to play NaP in the Munster final and I would expect the All Ireland winners to come out of that game.
McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 23/10/2017 14:59:03
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The defending All-Ireland, Leinster and Dublin champions back into the Dublin SHC final.
Cuala beat Vincent's in a great game yesterday. Really enjoyable stuff with some great score taking from both sides. Vincent's could well become a force in Dublin hurling again over the next few years, as much as it pains me to say that!
It's Cuala v Kilmacud Crokes again. Can't see Crokes staying with Cuala to be honest, they were very lucky in beating Lucan who must have picked at least 15 wides. Crokes came through thanks to a lucky enough goal, when a shot for a point hit the post and fell into the square where it was half hit and squirmed under the Lucan goalkeepers hurl. The Lucan keeper had just been subbed on for no apparent reason as well!
Cuala to win the final again and they'll take stopping imo.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 23/10/2017 15:18:18
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https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2017/10/19/news/clubs-will-fold-unless-ulster-s-five-year-rule-is-changed-warns-cloughmills-boss-geoffrey-laverty-1167038/
Armagh043 (Armagh) - Posts: 17 - 24/10/2017 10:43:06
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Yes I say Cuala will win Saturday and should be favourites to retain their Leinster title with no big hitters from Kilkenny or Wexford involved this year. Kilkenny finalists James Stephens and Dicksboro and Wexford winners St Martin's will take beating but they wouldn't have the same experience as Ballyhale or Oulart for instance. I don't see Kilcormac Killoughey making it to the final. Mount Leinster Rangers are the pick of the teams on the other side in my opinion. I heard Mattie Kenny has informed the Cuala lads that it's his last year in charge so they will only be gunning for more silverware.
Thurles Sarsfields and Ballygunner go at it again in the Munster quarter-final on Sunday. Sars just squeezed past them at this stage in Semple last year. The seven day turnaround may catch out Ballygunner again but I expect another closely fought contest at Walsh Park.
I see TG4 are showing the Kilkenny final instead with deferred coveragr of Sars and Ballygunner afterwards.
What are the thoughts on Dicksboro and James Stephens?
What a team Slaughneil are, the club that keeps on giving. Also who are the teams to watch out on the intermediate and junior stage? Could Middletown ever get back to an All-Ireland final? Kanturk maybe in Cork?
PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 25/10/2017 12:47:24
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Replying To PortInFaithful: "Yes I say Cuala will win Saturday and should be favourites to retain their Leinster title with no big hitters from Kilkenny or Wexford involved this year. Kilkenny finalists James Stephens and Dicksboro and Wexford winners St Martin's will take beating but they wouldn't have the same experience as Ballyhale or Oulart for instance. I don't see Kilcormac Killoughey making it to the final. Mount Leinster Rangers are the pick of the teams on the other side in my opinion. I heard Mattie Kenny has informed the Cuala lads that it's his last year in charge so they will only be gunning for more silverware.
Thurles Sarsfields and Ballygunner go at it again in the Munster quarter-final on Sunday. Sars just squeezed past them at this stage in Semple last year. The seven day turnaround may catch out Ballygunner again but I expect another closely fought contest at Walsh Park.
I see TG4 are showing the Kilkenny final instead with deferred coveragr of Sars and Ballygunner afterwards.
What are the thoughts on Dicksboro and James Stephens?
What a team Slaughneil are, the club that keeps on giving. Also who are the teams to watch out on the intermediate and junior stage? Could Middletown ever get back to an All-Ireland final? Kanturk maybe in Cork?" What about castletown geoghegan...coukd they not b a dark.horse, 4 years ago could have bet MLR After holding a half time lead and look where MLR ended up the following spring...
preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 25/10/2017 13:02:26
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