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https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0718/891132-charlie-redmond/ Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9131 - 18/07/2017 11:27:19 2018545 Link 8 |
Charlie disregards anything Jimmy has to say because of the way he sets his team up? hardly an opinion worth paying attention to. I doubt he shy'd away from all ireland celebrations with his own county in recent years despite them playing a similar brand of football. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/07/2017 16:30:49 2018779 Link 3 |
Silly from Charlie & him with Donegal connections as well!! MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 18/07/2017 16:44:56 2018790 Link 5 |
How these boys get coverage is beyond me. McGuinness brought football to an all time low, such horses***e. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7887 - 18/07/2017 17:16:42 2018810 Link 3 |
So the Gospel according to Jim is allowed but when someone offers a different opinion they are being silly. No coincidence thread was setup by his cult followers. If you were being honest and there was a lot of Donegal fans who despised his brand of handball. He did bring defensive football to a new level (low) I will always have the memory of 2011 when the ball was thrown up and the 3 donegal forwards put there heads down and sprinted into a defensive position they were not even interested if they won the throw up. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 18/07/2017 17:19:40 2018812 Link 3 |
Jim Mc Guinness done great for Donegal and that's all that will be remembered at this stage. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 18/07/2017 17:47:39 2018826 Link 3 |
Never listened to Redmond since he wrote in papers and mcguinness constantly has to reference everything to soccer since he went to Celtic, he also contradicts himself as much as Joe brolly with some of the assertions he makes his latest on the connolly incident regarding match of the day was one example. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/07/2017 17:48:25 2018827 Link 0 |
Entitled to opinion yes but when it's just plain horses***? As Lockjaw said one of the first times Jim McGuinness came to the National attention as Donegal manager was over the handling of the motm award against Antrim and the slight on Ryan Bradley. To say Jim Gavin "stood up for his player in a way Jim McGuinness never did or never could do" sure just plain factually wrong. As for having no regard for what Jim McGuinness says because of the depths he brought defensive football to...... well Charlie he certainly achieved a lot more in management than you ever did!
benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 18/07/2017 18:07:48 2018836 Link 3 |
McGuinness' original article was BS too jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/07/2017 18:24:34 2018842 Link 1 |
Mcguiness asertation that gavin should apologise and brought the game into disrepute is also bullsxxt. Mcguiness is now a paid pundit what else was he going to do other than stick up for a fellow pundit.
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 18/07/2017 18:33:11 2018848 Link 3 |
On a separate note I don't think Curran or Redmond by crititizing other counties is helping Dublin's cause Curran did it with an ill advised interview before the league final they are only giving other counties ammunition and motivation. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 18/07/2017 18:39:36 2018851 Link 0 |
Again, ya , thats just your opinion which you are entitled to.Paper never refused ink and all that. As the saying goes, opinions are like a**holes. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 18/07/2017 18:58:04 2018864 Link 0 |
more a rant than a different opinion from Charlie unless you can explain it any better yourself? if you have a fresh memory of 2011 you'll remember the ultra defensive brand used by Pat Gilroy that year, when the general feeling amongst Dubs was as long as they get over the line and win their fitst AI in donkeys years they dont care what way it played out. So to criticise a team coming from a much lower potential for doing what they had to do in order to be successful is a bit hypocritical.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/07/2017 19:06:39 2018869 Link 1 |
You have to play a similar brand to counter everyone else setting up defensively Dublin are not a defence first side Dublin are a very well balanced team now and that's why since 2014 they've had so much success They learned how to counter the counter jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/07/2017 19:25:39 2018881 Link 1 |
Guys with a bit of sense will ignore what they say as it is only their opinions. I do believe that a manager should stand up for his team members. I was not impressed how McGuiness went over the top in dealing with the article by Bogue a few years back browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 18/07/2017 19:29:17 2018882 Link 1 |
Big difference between Dublin's setup and Donegal Dublin didn't pull 14 / 15 players behind the ball what Gilroy did do was insist on the half backs holding there positions and didn't give them license to bomb forward that's why Dublin won the low scoring farce of a game in 2011 when Donegal pulled everyone back the Dublin backs didn't follow them which didn't expose them to the counter attack we probaly would have won in 2014 if we employed a similar strategy.
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 18/07/2017 19:35:48 2018885 Link 2 |
We missed chances and were very tactically naive in 2014. Gavin tried to go the attacking route but failed. We weren't a balanced side. He rectified that and went on the greatest run of competive games unbeaten in GAA history winning everything put in front of them. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/07/2017 19:46:07 2018892 Link 2 |
Dublin also have by far and away the best attacking options in the country. Its easy to preach at other counties with lesser options about how football should be played. Donegal may have been ultra defensive in 2011 but they evolved the following year and got the balance spot on and won an AI for their efforts, with a lot less attacking talent than Dublin so credit where its due. We still see cracking matches in the modern era and Donegal are far from the death of football.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/07/2017 19:51:47 2018895 Link 1 |
very cautious play from such a talented team. Surely it must make sense to you then that a less talented team like Donegal may have to show even more restrictions in their play in order to be in with a chance. Donegal may have been rigid in their approach in 2011 but without those foundations they wouldnt have been AI champions a year later.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/07/2017 20:00:47 2018898 Link 0 |
I find the whole thing funny, Jim Mcguiness isn't qualified to give Jim Galvin advice about management really, he's a far less successful manager, be like the Leitrim keeper giving Cluxton kick out advice (no offence). TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/07/2017 20:04:22 2018900 Link 2 |