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Replying To Uimhir.a.3.: "Good man, maybe you should have read my post & the post I was responding to first before you made your point & label me as a green Farage. The point made was that the Troika saved us from being a third world country & my reply was in relation to that. At no point did I condone our Govt & Banks, we all acknowledge their incompetence. Yes we were failed by our own leadership, but if you think the EU haven't failed us you obviously don't realise what austerity is & what our national debt is, imposed on Irish taxpayers. I wonder what age you are, when you reference the SSIA scheme as part of the downfall. The crash had nothing to do with the SSIA scheme which was in fact a very good scheme. For all those Eurocrats like yourself, your soon going to see what they think of us when they standardise Corporation Tax & kill FDI into this country & bring it instead to the top 5 in mainland Europe. When you read posts on here, it's no surprise we are a mess as a nation, so divided in every way & no balls to stand our ground, always bending the knee." Same as that.
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Replying To Whammo86: " Replying To cavanman47: "Many will be silent, and many on here are calling for the GAA to be silent.
I, like yourself and most on this island, would welcome a United Ireland. I am not a Sinn Fein supporter and wouldn't use them or any party as the most appropriate platform for the expression of a nationalist standpoint.
The GAA on the other hand, as I pointed out in a previous post, would represent one of the biggest (if not the biggest) outlets for cross-community harmony in a united Ireland. For this reason, and the fact that the vast majority of their members are of the nationalist persuasion, they have a responsibility not to be silent on this issue." I doubt love the term nationalist. I would be very much of the broad persuasion that Northern Ireland would be better served as being part of a united Ireland rather than a part of the UK. It would still depend on the details of how that was negotiated. I couldn't be for a united Ireland at all costs. A united Ireland at the end of the day doesn't put food on my table or anyone else's table. To be stable a united Ireland would have to work and work for a large majority of the country across the entire island. I am a member of the GAA not because it is a nationalist organisation, but because it is a sporting cultural organisation. That is why despite being broadly in favour of a united Ireland you or Joe Brolly or anyone else should not be leveraging my membership of the organisation for your own agendas. If you don't like the current political parties but want a united Ireland set up your own party and appeal to me and others through that. The right channel to discuss the shape of a united Ireland is in the political arena not the GAA."
About quality of life and food on the table as you say.
The DUP though seem rooted to the past where it's all about flags and attachment to the queen etc...utter nonsense.
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Replying To yew_tree: " Replying To Whammo86: "[quote=cavanman47: "Many will be silent, and many on here are calling for the GAA to be silent.
I, like yourself and most on this island, would welcome a United Ireland. I am not a Sinn Fein supporter and wouldn't use them or any party as the most appropriate platform for the expression of a nationalist standpoint.
The GAA on the other hand, as I pointed out in a previous post, would represent one of the biggest (if not the biggest) outlets for cross-community harmony in a united Ireland. For this reason, and the fact that the vast majority of their members are of the nationalist persuasion, they have a responsibility not to be silent on this issue." I doubt love the term nationalist. I would be very much of the broad persuasion that Northern Ireland would be better served as being part of a united Ireland rather than a part of the UK. It would still depend on the details of how that was negotiated. I couldn't be for a united Ireland at all costs. A united Ireland at the end of the day doesn't put food on my table or anyone else's table. To be stable a united Ireland would have to work and work for a large majority of the country across the entire island. I am a member of the GAA not because it is a nationalist organisation, but because it is a sporting cultural organisation. That is why despite being broadly in favour of a united Ireland you or Joe Brolly or anyone else should not be leveraging my membership of the organisation for your own agendas. If you don't like the current political parties but want a united Ireland set up your own party and appeal to me and others through that. The right channel to discuss the shape of a united Ireland is in the political arena not the GAA."
About quality of life and food on the table as you say.
The DUP though seem rooted to the past where it's all about flags and attachment to the queen etc...utter nonsense."]The DUP are pretty much the antithesis of everything I stand for.
I wrote a scathing post on them in response to bloodyban saying he'd vote for them over SF any day.
It didn't get through.
I was vocal on here last year when Arlene was praised for going to the Ulster final. Which was in my mind very much an empty stunt.
The problem is though a large number of people still vote for them.
It does show me that there's not really a place for me within some independent Northern Irish state.
Unfortunately it also shows that a united Ireland is not tenable in the near term. I don't see anyway that the DUP's sizeable supporr could accept being part of a united Ireland in spite of it likely being better for them.
That's the reason why a united Ireland can't be stable at this point.
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Interesting topic. Seeing some people saying the GAA is not a nationalist organisation seems bizzare to me. It was set up to promote pride in Irish culture. I, like I believe most GAA people, in a romantic way would love to see a united Ireland. But despite saying this I don't think the GAA should as an organisation get involved in campaigning in a border poll. The GAA promoting Irish games and organising on a 32 county basis in reality is encouraging moves towards a united Ireland (in a soft power kind of way). But I think the GAA coming out and campaigning would be counter productive. Secondly looking at opinion polls in the north over the years it is clear that not all cultural nationalists in the north will vote in favour of a united Ireland due to day to day issues such as the NHS. These people could be alienated from the organisation if it were to campaign. Thirdly getting involved campaigning in a poll like this might end up accidentally getting the association pulled into party politics and being divided.
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What's the point of letting a topic be discussed if you're only going to put up the posts that you want to? The censorship on here is making it a near waste of time to bother coming on sometimes.
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Celebrating 'Irish Culture' doesn't mean you have to be a nationalist or Republican. You could be a Protestant unionist and celebrate Irish culture like many in the Gaelic League movement were. You can be Irish and British like many unionists in Northern Ireland describe themselves.
First people to assume certain things about the GAA really sickens me and deminishes the Organisation . It's like the Michael Cusack figure in James Joyce's ' Ulysses ', a real buffoon that alienates the moderates .
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 26/03/2019 21:52:20
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Replying To bloodyban: "Celebrating 'Irish Culture' doesn't mean you have to be a nationalist or Republican. You could be a Protestant unionist and celebrate Irish culture like many in the Gaelic League movement were. You can be Irish and British like many unionists in Northern Ireland describe themselves.
First people to assume certain things about the GAA really sickens me and deminishes the Organisation . It's like the Michael Cusack figure in James Joyce's ' Ulysses ', a real buffoon that alienates the moderates ." Many of the early members of the Gaelic league/GAA were Protestants alright. But these Protestants who were members were almost all Irish nationalists. If you look at the history of the GAA and Gaelic League around the time they were founded up to at least 1918 splits often threatened these organisations with different elements of Irish nationalist members trying to control them (Parnellites v. Anti Parnellites, IPP v. Republicans etc.). These organisations were clearly Nationalist in outlook. In the south of Ireland before independence not all Protestants were Unionist. Sam Maguire was a Protestant, a leading member of the GAA and a leading member of the IRB (he swore Michael Collins into the IRB).
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Replying To A Another: "So you give out about Joe Brolly and Jarelth Burns for having an opinion on what is happening in the north. You tell us what people in the north should do ie embrace Northern Ireland.
You then follow that up by saying that Brolly and Burns don't know how people in southern Ireland feel. Do you see anything contradictory there at all?
Up here is a lot better than it was but it is far from perfect. We are being run by a tory government and the dup, The same tory government that have just announced that all security member murders in the troubles were done in a dignified way. The DUP are an awful awful party that have no time for anything Irish or non British. They try to enforce their views on everyone.
With attitudes like the above all 32 counties would still be controlled and dominated by British rule. I assume you count your ancestors who live in the south prior to 1916 as British and would have been happy for them to accept that?
As pointed out by others the gaa is much more than a sporting body. It's a cultural body to strengthen our national Irish identity. Attitudes like the above goes against everything it was set up for. We in the north our as Irish as you and have every right to call ourselves that." You need to look at why and how the GAA was set up and it has nothing to do with British rule.
The GAA need to encourage all communities to play our games and grow love of our sport and culture. That should be its only mechanism to campaign for a 'united ireland'. No political or religious involvement in the slightest.
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Replying To Gator: "You need to look at why and how the GAA was set up and it has nothing to do with British rule.
The GAA need to encourage all communities to play our games and grow love of our sport and culture. That should be its only mechanism to campaign for a 'united ireland'. No political or religious involvement in the slightest." The foundation of the GAA "had nothing to do with British rule"? I humbly disagree, sir. Re-reading Archbishop Croke's letter to Cusack it's hard to support this conclusion.
To Mr Michael Cusack, Honorary Secretary of the Gaelic Athletic Association. The Palace, Thurles, 18 December 1884.
My dear Sir-I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your communication inviting me to become a patron of the 'Gaelic Athletic Association', of which you are, it appears, the honourable secretary, I accede to your request with the utmost pleasure.
One of the most painful, let me assure you, and, at the same time, one of the most frequently recurring reflections that, as an Irishman, I am compelled to make in connection with the present aspect of things in this country, is derived from the ugly and irritating fact that we are daily importing from England not only her manufactured goods, which we cannot help doing, since she has practically strangled our own manufacturing appliances, but, together with her fashions, her accent, her vicious literature, her music, her dances, and her manifold mannerisms, her games also and her pastimes, to the utter discredit of our own grand national sports, and to the sore humiliation, as I believe, of every genuine son and daughter of the old land.
Ball-playing, hurling, football kicking, according to Irish rules, 'casting', leaping in various ways, wrestling, handy-grips, top-pegging, leap-frog, rounders, tip-in-the-hat, and all such favourite exercises and amusements amongst men and boys, may now be said to be not only dead and buried, but in several localities to be entirely forgotten and unknown. And what have we got in their stead? We have got such foreign and fantastic field sports as lawn-tennis, polo, croquet, cricket, and the like-very excellent, I believe, and health-giving exercises in their way, still not racy of the soil, but rather alien, on the contrary, to it, as are, indeed, for the most part the men and women who first imported and still continue to patronise them.
And, unfortunately, it is not our national sports alone that are held in dishonour, and dying out, but even our most suggestive national celebrations are being gradually effaced and extinguished, one after another, as well. Who hears now of snap-apple night, or bonfire night? They are all things of the past, too vulgar to be spoken of, except in ridicule, by the degenerate dandies of the day. No doubt, there is something rather pleasing to the eye in the 'get up' of a modern young man who, arrayed in light attire, with parti-coloured cap on and racket in hand, is making his way, with or without a companion, to the tennis ground. But, for my part, I should vastly prefer to behold, or think of, the youthful athletes whom I used to see in my early days at fair and pattern, bereft of shoes and coat, and thus prepared to play at hand-ball, to fly over any number of horses, to throw the 'sledge' or 'winding-stone', and to test each other's mettle and activity by the trying ordeal of 'three leaps', or a 'hop, step, and a jump'.
Indeed, if we continue travelling for the next score of years in the same direction that we have been going in for some time past, contemning the sports that were practised by our forefathers, effacing our national features as though we were ashamed of them, and putting on, with England's stuffs and broadcloths, her habits and such other effeminate follies as she may recommend, we had better at once, and publicly, adjure our nationality, clap hands for joy at sight of the Union Jack, and place 'England's bloody red' exultingly above 'the green'.
Deprecating, as I do, any such dire and disgraceful consummation, and seeing in your society of athletes something altogether opposed to it, I shall be happy to do all that I can, and authorise you now formally to place my name on the roll of your patrons.
In conclusion, I earnestly hope that our national journals will not disdain, in future, to give suitable notices of those Irish sports and pastimes which your society means to patronise and promote, and that the masters and pupils of our Irish colleges will not henceforth exclude from their athletic programmes such manly exercises as I have just referred to and commemorated.-I remain, my dear sir, your very faithful servant,
T. W. Croke, Archbishop of Cashel.
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Replying To Gleebo: "The foundation of the GAA "had nothing to do with British rule"? I humbly disagree, sir. Re-reading Archbishop Croke's letter to Cusack it's hard to support this conclusion.
To Mr Michael Cusack, Honorary Secretary of the Gaelic Athletic Association. The Palace, Thurles, 18 December 1884.
My dear Sir-I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your communication inviting me to become a patron of the 'Gaelic Athletic Association', of which you are, it appears, the honourable secretary, I accede to your request with the utmost pleasure.
One of the most painful, let me assure you, and, at the same time, one of the most frequently recurring reflections that, as an Irishman, I am compelled to make in connection with the present aspect of things in this country, is derived from the ugly and irritating fact that we are daily importing from England not only her manufactured goods, which we cannot help doing, since she has practically strangled our own manufacturing appliances, but, together with her fashions, her accent, her vicious literature, her music, her dances, and her manifold mannerisms, her games also and her pastimes, to the utter discredit of our own grand national sports, and to the sore humiliation, as I believe, of every genuine son and daughter of the old land.
Ball-playing, hurling, football kicking, according to Irish rules, 'casting', leaping in various ways, wrestling, handy-grips, top-pegging, leap-frog, rounders, tip-in-the-hat, and all such favourite exercises and amusements amongst men and boys, may now be said to be not only dead and buried, but in several localities to be entirely forgotten and unknown. And what have we got in their stead? We have got such foreign and fantastic field sports as lawn-tennis, polo, croquet, cricket, and the like-very excellent, I believe, and health-giving exercises in their way, still not racy of the soil, but rather alien, on the contrary, to it, as are, indeed, for the most part the men and women who first imported and still continue to patronise them.
And, unfortunately, it is not our national sports alone that are held in dishonour, and dying out, but even our most suggestive national celebrations are being gradually effaced and extinguished, one after another, as well. Who hears now of snap-apple night, or bonfire night? They are all things of the past, too vulgar to be spoken of, except in ridicule, by the degenerate dandies of the day. No doubt, there is something rather pleasing to the eye in the 'get up' of a modern young man who, arrayed in light attire, with parti-coloured cap on and racket in hand, is making his way, with or without a companion, to the tennis ground. But, for my part, I should vastly prefer to behold, or think of, the youthful athletes whom I used to see in my early days at fair and pattern, bereft of shoes and coat, and thus prepared to play at hand-ball, to fly over any number of horses, to throw the 'sledge' or 'winding-stone', and to test each other's mettle and activity by the trying ordeal of 'three leaps', or a 'hop, step, and a jump'.
Indeed, if we continue travelling for the next score of years in the same direction that we have been going in for some time past, contemning the sports that were practised by our forefathers, effacing our national features as though we were ashamed of them, and putting on, with England's stuffs and broadcloths, her habits and such other effeminate follies as she may recommend, we had better at once, and publicly, adjure our nationality, clap hands for joy at sight of the Union Jack, and place 'England's bloody red' exultingly above 'the green'.
Deprecating, as I do, any such dire and disgraceful consummation, and seeing in your society of athletes something altogether opposed to it, I shall be happy to do all that I can, and authorise you now formally to place my name on the roll of your patrons.
In conclusion, I earnestly hope that our national journals will not disdain, in future, to give suitable notices of those Irish sports and pastimes which your society means to patronise and promote, and that the masters and pupils of our Irish colleges will not henceforth exclude from their athletic programmes such manly exercises as I have just referred to and commemorated.-I remain, my dear sir, your very faithful servant,
T. W. Croke, Archbishop of Cashel." After it was set up that letter was penned Gleebo. It was a mistake IMO. It set the organisation back.
A founder member was an inspector in the RIC, eventually the Archbishop saw to it that his members were not welcome in the org he helped to start.
Politics and religion has no place in our game. Never has, never will IMO.
Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 27/03/2019 14:14:19
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Replying To Gleebo: "The foundation of the GAA "had nothing to do with British rule"? I humbly disagree, sir. Re-reading Archbishop Croke's letter to Cusack it's hard to support this conclusion.
To Mr Michael Cusack, Honorary Secretary of the Gaelic Athletic Association. The Palace, Thurles, 18 December 1884.
My dear Sir-I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your communication inviting me to become a patron of the 'Gaelic Athletic Association', of which you are, it appears, the honourable secretary, I accede to your request with the utmost pleasure.
One of the most painful, let me assure you, and, at the same time, one of the most frequently recurring reflections that, as an Irishman, I am compelled to make in connection with the present aspect of things in this country, is derived from the ugly and irritating fact that we are daily importing from England not only her manufactured goods, which we cannot help doing, since she has practically strangled our own manufacturing appliances, but, together with her fashions, her accent, her vicious literature, her music, her dances, and her manifold mannerisms, her games also and her pastimes, to the utter discredit of our own grand national sports, and to the sore humiliation, as I believe, of every genuine son and daughter of the old land.
Ball-playing, hurling, football kicking, according to Irish rules, 'casting', leaping in various ways, wrestling, handy-grips, top-pegging, leap-frog, rounders, tip-in-the-hat, and all such favourite exercises and amusements amongst men and boys, may now be said to be not only dead and buried, but in several localities to be entirely forgotten and unknown. And what have we got in their stead? We have got such foreign and fantastic field sports as lawn-tennis, polo, croquet, cricket, and the like-very excellent, I believe, and health-giving exercises in their way, still not racy of the soil, but rather alien, on the contrary, to it, as are, indeed, for the most part the men and women who first imported and still continue to patronise them.
And, unfortunately, it is not our national sports alone that are held in dishonour, and dying out, but even our most suggestive national celebrations are being gradually effaced and extinguished, one after another, as well. Who hears now of snap-apple night, or bonfire night? They are all things of the past, too vulgar to be spoken of, except in ridicule, by the degenerate dandies of the day. No doubt, there is something rather pleasing to the eye in the 'get up' of a modern young man who, arrayed in light attire, with parti-coloured cap on and racket in hand, is making his way, with or without a companion, to the tennis ground. But, for my part, I should vastly prefer to behold, or think of, the youthful athletes whom I used to see in my early days at fair and pattern, bereft of shoes and coat, and thus prepared to play at hand-ball, to fly over any number of horses, to throw the 'sledge' or 'winding-stone', and to test each other's mettle and activity by the trying ordeal of 'three leaps', or a 'hop, step, and a jump'.
Indeed, if we continue travelling for the next score of years in the same direction that we have been going in for some time past, contemning the sports that were practised by our forefathers, effacing our national features as though we were ashamed of them, and putting on, with England's stuffs and broadcloths, her habits and such other effeminate follies as she may recommend, we had better at once, and publicly, adjure our nationality, clap hands for joy at sight of the Union Jack, and place 'England's bloody red' exultingly above 'the green'.
Deprecating, as I do, any such dire and disgraceful consummation, and seeing in your society of athletes something altogether opposed to it, I shall be happy to do all that I can, and authorise you now formally to place my name on the roll of your patrons.
In conclusion, I earnestly hope that our national journals will not disdain, in future, to give suitable notices of those Irish sports and pastimes which your society means to patronise and promote, and that the masters and pupils of our Irish colleges will not henceforth exclude from their athletic programmes such manly exercises as I have just referred to and commemorated.-I remain, my dear sir, your very faithful servant,
T. W. Croke, Archbishop of Cashel." So we should all dance to the tune of some bishop from 135 years ago and implement his vision for the association without deviation?
I look forward to the Hogan stand threads on "leaping in various ways, wrestling, handy-grips, top-pegging, leap-frog, rounders, tip-in-the-hat, and all such favourite exercises and amusements amongst men and boys". I assume that means we need to protest at girls and women playing Gaelic sports too.
We live in changed times, the GAA is a broad church, it needs to stay out of politics. Taking political stances will only cause division within the membership (as can be seen in this thread)
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Replying To himachechy: "So we should all dance to the tune of some bishop from 135 years ago and implement his vision for the association without deviation?
I look forward to the Hogan stand threads on "leaping in various ways, wrestling, handy-grips, top-pegging, leap-frog, rounders, tip-in-the-hat, and all such favourite exercises and amusements amongst men and boys". I assume that means we need to protest at girls and women playing Gaelic sports too.
We live in changed times, the GAA is a broad church, it needs to stay out of politics. Taking political stances will only cause division within the membership (as can be seen in this thread)" Not necessarily, but neither should we be trying to re-write history either.
Those suggesting that the GAA tacitly accepted British rule are incorrect.
Nice straw-man (men?) though.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 27/03/2019 16:57:14
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Replying To Gleebo: "Not necessarily, but neither should we be trying to re-write history either.
Those suggesting that the GAA tacitly accepted British rule are incorrect.
Nice straw-man (men?) though." I agree. The GAA had political as well as cultural aims from its foundation and any attempt to deny this is to rewrite history, but would also agree with those who say times have changed , quite rightly it stepped away from politics when it lifted the ban on RUC members joining the association and under no circumstances should it consider entering the political sphere again cos to do so would mean it would become a force for divisiveness instead of community which is what it needs to be about.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 27/03/2019 18:26:34
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Replying To Gleebo: "Not necessarily, but neither should we be trying to re-write history either.
Those suggesting that the GAA tacitly accepted British rule are incorrect.
Nice straw-man (men?) though." You're still ignoring that letter was written after the foundation and its author then took things in a very specific direction. No re-writing of history here. The intention was to revive our sports, the intention of the gaelic league was to revive our language and culture. Both organisations were apolitical in the founding and people politicized them after the face to varying degrees. Most unionists don't want anything to do with our games or language and its not because the origins of them. Its because some sought to use them politically.
I figure we have to agree to disagree on this but its my take on it anyway.
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Christ when is a game of hurling or football, or camogie going to break out on here or discussed ? a sports forum should stay as a sports forum
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Replying To himachechy: "So we should all dance to the tune of some bishop from 135 years ago and implement his vision for the association without deviation?
I look forward to the Hogan stand threads on "leaping in various ways, wrestling, handy-grips, top-pegging, leap-frog, rounders, tip-in-the-hat, and all such favourite exercises and amusements amongst men and boys". I assume that means we need to protest at girls and women playing Gaelic sports too.
We live in changed times, the GAA is a broad church, it needs to stay out of politics. Taking political stances will only cause division within the membership (as can be seen in this thread)" It would do no harm at all to look to the past occasionally and take on board what people from a different time had in mind. Just because you might not want an idea or purpose to be top of your agenda now doesn't mean that such an idea was not to the fore for the founders of the association. To deny such ideas or brush them under the carpet is equally wrong as for many members they are very much the reason we are part of this organization today. But sure maybe we should rename Croke Park too. After all why should we bestow upon some oul bishop from donkeys ages ago such an honor. We'll start renaming all the clubs too,no more Irish Rebels or saints names. See how many members will go for it.
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Replying To seanie_boy: "It would do no harm at all to look to the past occasionally and take on board what people from a different time had in mind. Just because you might not want an idea or purpose to be top of your agenda now doesn't mean that such an idea was not to the fore for the founders of the association. To deny such ideas or brush them under the carpet is equally wrong as for many members they are very much the reason we are part of this organization today. But sure maybe we should rename Croke Park too. After all why should we bestow upon some oul bishop from donkeys ages ago such an honor. We'll start renaming all the clubs too,no more Irish Rebels or saints names. See how many members will go for it." I agree that over the years national politics (not party) have played a big part int he GAA. My point is that it shouldn't now. We should be all about the sport. I know other people are more keen on the language and cultural aspects.
Better not start about the club names, could be another argument..... I've no bother with the saints names :-)
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The GAA have already commemorated the 1916 Rising, will probably commemorate the first Dail this year and the signing the of Treaty in 2021, to say the GAA should stay out of politics is picking and choosing. Like I said before the GAA should welcome a peaceful and inclusive United Ireland, it is far from sectarian to welcome such a thing, it wrong, unfair and ignorant to suggest otherwise.
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GAA have more than enough to be doing trying to clean up their own act never mind telling the rest of us how we should be voting in any border poll.
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Campaign is too strong a word. Promote values of respect between all people of differing creeds and politics which may, or may not lead to a United Ireland I'm all for.
I'd like to see a United Ireland in my time but 'campaigning' certainly won't bring it about. No harm in saying you aspire to see a United Ireland but how you go about it and respect others is key.
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