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Replying To TheUsername:  "I mentioned politics first and i do think they are political ive no problem owning that, lets be honest they are really, its an exercise in spreading it around and making it look like the game isnt as lobsided as it clearly is, they often dont reflect the sport in my opinion.

Take the POTY nominations, in my opinion they nominated 3 Dublin lads to gaurentee a Dublin lad gets POTY as in the last two years, no Dublin player got the gong or the vote was split 2/1 with two Dublin choices and one outside. Thats unfair in my opinion, as i think Cavanagh, Beggan are very unlucky not to have shouts, not having Conor McManus this year is crazy, not that the Dublin lads arent deserving of their nomination. But the GAA have made sure a Dub wiill POTY and i think they are afraid that they wouldn't probably due to the shall we say fatigue with Dublin winning. That is one of many reasons why i think they are political or arent reflective of the sport or the spirit of the sport in general.

Equally i think Clifford will win, because i dont think players are going to vote in two categories for Dublin, one category were they dont have a choice and in the second they have two alternatives or county choice, they are more likely to exercise that choice and spread around in my opinion. I would be amazed if Howard won it because of that. Thats not a criticism of Clifford as others have said he would be a worthy winner and a very good young player, but the whole thing is a bit of farce, politcal and not reflective of the sport in my option."
Is it not the GAA journalists who decide the All Star nominations, then vote to narrow it down to the actual winners and the same for Players of the Year in both categories? The players have their own GPA awards that they vote in. I'm open to correction but as i said I heard Brian Carthy discussing it on the radio a while back.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 14/09/2018 13:09:13    2141695

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Replying To kildare73:  "Is it not the GAA journalists who decide the All Star nominations, then vote to narrow it down to the actual winners and the same for Players of the Year in both categories? The players have their own GPA awards that they vote in. I'm open to correction but as i said I heard Brian Carthy discussing it on the radio a while back."
The all star team is decided by panel of journalists and The YPOY and POTY are decided by a players vote is my understanding of it, going from memory here so im open to correction.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/09/2018 13:13:49    2141697

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Replying To shoulderghost:  "YPOTY for me is Brian Howard, masterful first year, complete player, covered all over the field. Clifford had sensational moments and is sheer class, but he didn't burn a ball in Munster against either Clare or Cork. Howard was consistently powerful in every game.

And to boot, not alone do I think that Clifford should not get POTY, but also that he doesn't deserve an All-Star. They're 6 better forwards than him nominated."
Who are your 6 better forwards?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/09/2018 14:09:27    2141714

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Once again the club game utterly ignored; Chrissy McKaigue from Slaughtneill an obvious choice, outstanding whenever I have watched him

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 14/09/2018 14:37:46    2141724

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Dissapointed not to see Connor McAliskey pick up a nomination. Gets average of 50 mins per game, expected to track back and does, spending half his time inside his own 45 and still finishes the championship as 2nd top scorer to McManus. Glad to see he picked up an ulster all star but with 18 forwards getting the nod for nomination how the second highest scoring forward in the 2018 championship missed out is beyond me.

ShinerMackey (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 14/09/2018 14:53:57    2141727

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I think there are no enough Dubs nominated...if Limerick can have all 15 starters named why no the Dubs!!!!

Discrimination against us Dubs !!!!

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witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 14/09/2018 15:17:25    2141736

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Replying To Passer_By:  "Nice work there Concerned_Supp.

He scored 3-75 this year. 6th highest scorer in the championship without being involved in the super eights."
Impressive scoring stats for Broderick. Connor McAliskey was second overall championship scorer behind McManus and couldn't get a nomination. Carlow didn't get beyond round 2 of the qualifiers. When was the last time a player whose county exited the championship that early received a nomination. I'm convinced Broderick's nomination is to do with last year.

Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 14/09/2018 15:54:11    2141746

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Replying To Concerned_Supp:  "Impressive scoring stats for Broderick. Connor McAliskey was second overall championship scorer behind McManus and couldn't get a nomination. Carlow didn't get beyond round 2 of the qualifiers. When was the last time a player whose county exited the championship that early received a nomination. I'm convinced Broderick's nomination is to do with last year."
Obsession much ?

Why not concentrate on getting Westmeath to win a game in the championship?

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 16/09/2018 11:22:11    2141957

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Replying To carlovia:  "Obsession much ?

Why not concentrate on getting Westmeath to win a game in the championship?"
Childish response.

Concerned_Supp (Westmeath) - Posts: 71 - 19/09/2018 12:36:28    2142673

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Replying To carlovia:  "Obsession much ?

Why not concentrate on getting Westmeath to win a game in the championship?"
these really are the worst type of comments on here. where one poster looks at the county of another poster and remarks on it.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/09/2018 13:13:13    2142886

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Replying To carlovia:  "Obsession much ?

Why not concentrate on getting Westmeath to win a game in the championship?"
Don't forget to pick up your toys when you are finished.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 20/09/2018 13:16:28    2142890

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Replying To witnof:  "I think there are no enough Dubs nominated...if Limerick can have all 15 starters named why no the Dubs!!!!

Discrimination against us Dubs !!!!

:)"
It's good to see Clinton got his usual token nomination.
Looking forward to seeing Rory Beggan pick up the all star this year.
Can't be giving an all star to a keeper who might have 1 save to make per match and takes 90%of his kickouts short.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 23/09/2018 07:38:53    2143324

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "It's good to see Clinton got his usual token nomination.
Looking forward to seeing Rory Beggan pick up the all star this year.
Can't be giving an all star to a keeper who might have 1 save to make per match and takes 90%of his kickouts short."
I think Clinton is ok with what he has, despite being greedy and wanting more in the past. Wait, who are we talking about here?

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 23/09/2018 18:43:20    2143388

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hard to credit a single Kildare Nomination. a shocking season for them.

WunderBar (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 25/09/2018 12:02:22    2143693

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Replying To WunderBar:  "hard to credit a single Kildare Nomination. a shocking season for them."
Hopefully someone from Galway will get the "pull out of the man" award. Well deserved. For a team that had a shocking season, Galway didn't exactly put us away when you had us down to 14 men. Wasn't long after you found out where you are in the food chain. The Kildare lads who got nominations got them on merit, same as everyone else.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 25/09/2018 13:10:08    2143724

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Replying To kildare73:  "Hopefully someone from Galway will get the "pull out of the man" award. Well deserved. For a team that had a shocking season, Galway didn't exactly put us away when you had us down to 14 men. Wasn't long after you found out where you are in the food chain. The Kildare lads who got nominations got them on merit, same as everyone else."
Better that then the 'Pull on the Man' Award

WunderBar (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 25/09/2018 14:30:11    2143739

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Replying To WunderBar:  "Better that then the 'Pull on the Man' Award"
You could have won a few of those too but most players tend to stand up. Something that might be useful to learn.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 25/09/2018 15:16:50    2143755

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Replying To WunderBar:  "Better that then the 'Pull on the Man' Award"
I'd honestly say coming into this new season Kildare and galway are at the same level

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 25/09/2018 15:44:38    2143758

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "I'd honestly say coming into this new season Kildare and galway are at the same level"
Ahhh stop surely you are kidding here ?

EugeneFox (Galway) - Posts: 160 - 25/09/2018 16:10:17    2143763

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Replying To EugeneFox:  "Ahhh stop surely you are kidding here ?"
I'd argue that a very debatable red card in both our last two S8 matches lost us them games, very hard to say if we would have held/pushed on otherwise, but we may have. I won't question that Galway were by far and away the more consistent team last year but in terms of talent when playing to highest potential, I've seen real good things from Kildare, coupled with very strong u20's to be added.. of course I'm an optimist here (you'll say biased, fair enough) but I am very hopeful of our future, by saying I feel we're at the same level, it's not to demean Galway but a statement of intent and hope from me

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 25/09/2018 16:59:56    2143777

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