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Dublin v Tipperary
Cork v Clare
Kilkenny v Waterford
Offaly v Galway
Kerry v Laois
Wexford v Limerick

I don't think there is any of these games that are in any way clear cut. Dublin are in transition in a sense but I'd imagine they are further on in their preparations than Tipp. Cork/Clare & Wexford/Limerick are two games I'll be interested in for obvious reasons.
Also, what team will KK put out and will Waterford tweak their style of play. We won't learn a whole pile from the weekend but it might give us a good inkling of where teams are at and any changes in approach.
I think Cork are one team that will really target the League this year if their early season form is anything to go on.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 09/02/2017 10:28:59    1953900

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From the team news I'm going to put my weekend betting 10 quid on a Waterford Wexford Double! Hopefully luckier than last week with the football. Pays out over 6/1

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 09/02/2017 11:37:34    1953930

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Dublin v Tipperary
Cork v Clare
Kilkenny v Waterford
Offaly v Galway
Kerry v Laois
Wexford v Limerick

I don't think there is any of these games that are in any way clear cut. Dublin are in transition in a sense but I'd imagine they are further on in their preparations than Tipp. Cork/Clare & Wexford/Limerick are two games I'll be interested in for obvious reasons.
Also, what team will KK put out and will Waterford tweak their style of play. We won't learn a whole pile from the weekend but it might give us a good inkling of where teams are at and any changes in approach.
I think Cork are one team that will really target the League this year if their early season form is anything to go on."
I'm inclined to agree with your predictions - maybe Laois Kerry will go the other way. 1b will be very interesting this year - Wexford will have a big say in it but Limerick v Galway in the last round could be the decider. I think Wexford have a great chance of beating Limerick this weekend but by the time Limerick play Galway I expect we'll be stronger - should be very tight. I'd expect Tipp to win 1a with Waterford and Cork to be hot on their heels, not disregarding Clare or Kilkenny either! Looks likely to be a tough year for the Dubs and would be a surprise if they dont get relegated.

McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 09/02/2017 11:46:22    1953933

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Very difficult fixture for Limerick sunday, Wexford fired up big crowd davy factor etc
Very unimpressed with Cork v limerick in recent final , Think clare will take them saturday night

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 09/02/2017 12:10:25    1953944

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Expecting a good league run from cork

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 09/02/2017 12:16:19    1953945

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Replying To McFan88:  "
Replying To tiobraid:  "Dublin v Tipperary
Cork v Clare
Kilkenny v Waterford
Offaly v Galway
Kerry v Laois
Wexford v Limerick

I don't think there is any of these games that are in any way clear cut. Dublin are in transition in a sense but I'd imagine they are further on in their preparations than Tipp. Cork/Clare & Wexford/Limerick are two games I'll be interested in for obvious reasons.
Also, what team will KK put out and will Waterford tweak their style of play. We won't learn a whole pile from the weekend but it might give us a good inkling of where teams are at and any changes in approach.
I think Cork are one team that will really target the League this year if their early season form is anything to go on."
I'm inclined to agree with your predictions - maybe Laois Kerry will go the other way. 1b will be very interesting this year - Wexford will have a big say in it but Limerick v Galway in the last round could be the decider. I think Wexford have a great chance of beating Limerick this weekend but by the time Limerick play Galway I expect we'll be stronger - should be very tight. I'd expect Tipp to win 1a with Waterford and Cork to be hot on their heels, not disregarding Clare or Kilkenny either! Looks likely to be a tough year for the Dubs and would be a surprise if they dont get relegated."
Yep I'd agree on your Limerick assessment. Unsure about Tipp. I've a feeling Ryan wanted to stay in Div 1a last year but didn't want to get to a final. That was my hunch at the time. It's extremely competitive though.
KK are the interesting one as they have injuries and need to blood new players on top of that. very surprising they are favourites for the League.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 09/02/2017 12:23:45    1953953

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It was an amazing achievement to retain our Division 1B status last year and to get that historic win up in Offally. But with Limerick, a rejuvenated Wexford and a big fish like Galway swimming around this is going to be a tough, tough campaign. They'll no doubt be a few big defeats for our lads but having the opportunity to play against opposition of this calibre is a huge boon.

If we could turn over Laois on Sunday it would give us a great fighting chance of staying in the Division.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 09/02/2017 13:29:58    1953975

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wexford park is the place to be on sunday.davy will love to turn over limerick,and limerick will love noting more than sending davy back to sixmilebridge with his tail between his legs!
but a new era dawns,liam dunne gave sterling service to wexford but times change,the game changes.
i hope we can win,but i think limerick will be a bit too strong......
my major lament is that limerick footballers were in town last sunday,why this game was not a double header is still sticking in my craw.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 09/02/2017 14:34:22    1954000

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When will we get a better mix of pairings blending 1A and 1B teams ?
How about this -
3 seeding pots of 4 - all teams play 2 from each pot - 6 matches each - top 6 from common 12-team table to KO (1 down, no playoff)
Or, alternatively -
4 pots of 3 - all teams play 2 from each pot - 8 matches each - top 6 of 12-team table to KO (1 down, no playoff).
And for NFL (18 -team Div 1) -
3 pots of 6 - play 2 from each for 6 games - top 12 of 18 to KO (1v12, 2 v11 etc), 2 of 6 best winners get bye to SFs (4 down, no playoffs).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2570 - 09/02/2017 18:48:12    1954121

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i understand you frustration perfect 10 - did the trip 2 years ago for the double header, gonna cheer on footballers v westmeath and bring the walkman with me

massive game for limerick - destroyed them last year but that was as good as it got for us , be different this year , remember this wexford team has been to quarter finals in 2 of the last 3 years, i think galway will get promoted,but if we beat wexford it will give us a chance, irrespective of whether either of limerick or wexford go up - having a competitive one b plus hopefully at least a quarter final each each should be good prep for championship

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/02/2017 20:04:26    1954161

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Tipp v Dubs. Tipp
Cork v Clare. Cork
KK v Waterford draw
Offaly v Galway. Galway
Kerry v Laois Laois
Wexford v Limerick Wexford

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 09/02/2017 20:10:22    1954166

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Anyone else think that 1B has now become more competitive & interesting over the last couple of years?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/02/2017 23:24:45    1954233

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Replying To keeper7:  "Anyone else think that 1B has now become more competitive & interesting over the last couple of years?"
The Kerry v Laois game is arguably the most important game of the weekend, winner has an excellent chance of staying up and the loser more than likely goes down.

Surprised Tony Kelly is playing with Clare, I know the club All Ireland is 5 weeks away but I'd be wrapping him of all players in cotton wool, he also has the Fitzgibbon weekend to get over.

Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 10/02/2017 09:17:06    1954265

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Tipp v Dublin - Tipp
Cork v Clare - Draw
KK v Waterford - Waterford
Offaly v Galway - Galway
Kerry v Laois - Kerry
Wexford v Limerick - Draw

i too think cork are going to make a big push for the league this year, wexford v limerick should be a cracker as should kerry v laois.

thank god its back!!!!

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 10/02/2017 10:14:48    1954284

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Replying To Joe_Bloggs:  "The Kerry v Laois game is arguably the most important game of the weekend, winner has an excellent chance of staying up and the loser more than likely goes down.

Surprised Tony Kelly is playing with Clare, I know the club All Ireland is 5 weeks away but I'd be wrapping him of all players in cotton wool, he also has the Fitzgibbon weekend to get over."
Never dreamed he would be playing, partial reason I went for Cork. Gary Brennan playing with footballers last weekend was madness as well. The blame has the go with the managers on this one regardless of what the players want. Has League become that important? They have probably a once in a lifetime chance of doing something huge with a club with no history anyway close to this level

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 10/02/2017 10:41:10    1954296

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Never dreamed he would be playing, partial reason I went for Cork. Gary Brennan playing with footballers last weekend was madness as well. The blame has the go with the managers on this one regardless of what the players want. Has League become that important? They have probably a once in a lifetime chance of doing something huge with a club with no history anyway close to this level"
I believe that football would be Brennans no. 1 so wasnt really surprised with that. The footballers will need all the help they can get to stay in that division.

Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 10/02/2017 11:41:01    1954314

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Replying To Joe_Bloggs:  "The Kerry v Laois game is arguably the most important game of the weekend, winner has an excellent chance of staying up and the loser more than likely goes down.

Surprised Tony Kelly is playing with Clare, I know the club All Ireland is 5 weeks away but I'd be wrapping him of all players in cotton wool, he also has the Fitzgibbon weekend to get over."
Not surprised he's playing at all.In fact,i'd be disappointed if he wasn't.What is he to do?Sit around at home and do nothing?Travel with the seniors and not tog out?

Sure he could just as easily get injured training for Ballyea as playing for Clare.

Brian Cody doesn't mind his county players playing club games two weeks before championship games.No need to wrap Tony Kelly up in cotton wool just yet.I'd imagine he'll get a couple weeks off before St Patricks Day's big game.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 10/02/2017 13:21:46    1954361

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Replying To Joe_Bloggs:  "I believe that football would be Brennans no. 1 so wasnt really surprised with that. The footballers will need all the help they can get to stay in that division."
I understand that too. But two games in such close succession at either ends of the country couldn't be a good idea. Has to be some level of player welfare.
Was it just me or was I the only one shaking my head when everyone else was saying he's a great lad?
Don't get me wrong I have massive respect for him but I feel the Clare management should do the best thing for him.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 10/02/2017 13:29:28    1954366

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Not surprised he's playing at all.In fact,i'd be disappointed if he wasn't.What is he to do?Sit around at home and do nothing?Travel with the seniors and not tog out?

Sure he could just as easily get injured training for Ballyea as playing for Clare.

Brian Cody doesn't mind his county players playing club games two weeks before championship games.No need to wrap Tony Kelly up in cotton wool just yet.I'd imagine he'll get a couple weeks off before St Patricks Day's big game."
Jack Browne is also selected. I wonder are Niall Deasey & Gearóid O'Connell in the squad too?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/02/2017 16:34:22    1954456

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good limerick side named i think - young forwards gearoid Hegarty Cian Lynch Kyle Hayes Peter Casey David Dempsey got serious serious potential i have seen these guys do the biz at club and county underage level - so hoping that i time they can do same at the highest level
good luck lads - hope for amorale boosting win

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/02/2017 23:18:42    1954566

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